May 24 2006, 09:42 PM
QUOTE(ToGo @ May 24 2006, 04:29 PM)
Hi Radic4al,
thanks for ur help. Before this I got read this forum before also.
Personally feel that his item build not so good.
Maybe, I dunno how to use it well.
Just feel that he spending too much on Guinsoo's Scythe of Vyse.
Which this item is not suit for VS. He want to use this tactic is just primary is just for VS to fire double maggic missle.
Eul's still ok.
But if u want to use his tactic, unless u are very very pro or u play with noobs, at mid game, be sure you kill like insance, get godlike , so that only have enough money to buy burize for late game weapon.
If not , u are dead. At late game, 2 fire magic missle just is scratching to alot of hero only. Not really harm them. Late game magic missle is purely disabler, no true damage. And late game ppl also come in gang, i don't think thier team mate will let u wait to fire 2 round of magic missle.
Actually, swap and magic missle is pretty enough for VS, dont need to go for thrid disabler
So I feeel that his guide is more like paper speak soldier, not suit for noobs, average ppl..........
his guide is more of those supportive role of vs, and guinsoo is a good choice for one to be a supportive role. Have you seen a bone player getting Guinsoo? He did great with it. Have you tried/seen an Anti mage with 2 bashers and a Guinsoo? And its about making full use of the item that u get. Haha, like once you get sange, will you go for yasha after that and then combine them together? It all depends on whether your item synergies with others too. Go figure.thanks for ur help. Before this I got read this forum before also.
Personally feel that his item build not so good.
Maybe, I dunno how to use it well.
Just feel that he spending too much on Guinsoo's Scythe of Vyse.
Which this item is not suit for VS. He want to use this tactic is just primary is just for VS to fire double maggic missle.
Eul's still ok.
But if u want to use his tactic, unless u are very very pro or u play with noobs, at mid game, be sure you kill like insance, get godlike , so that only have enough money to buy burize for late game weapon.
If not , u are dead. At late game, 2 fire magic missle just is scratching to alot of hero only. Not really harm them. Late game magic missle is purely disabler, no true damage. And late game ppl also come in gang, i don't think thier team mate will let u wait to fire 2 round of magic missle.
Actually, swap and magic missle is pretty enough for VS, dont need to go for thrid disabler
So I feeel that his guide is more like paper speak soldier, not suit for noobs, average ppl..........
Even though you dont think the opposing team mate will not allow u to fire the 2nd shot of magic missile, there's still your teammates around helping you out right? dont tell me that u can go 1 on 5 on every hero in dota unless you have godly items though there are chances that you will lose your Divine Rapier but still there still a risk. Yeah sometimes you cant rely on your team mates at all, this purely the luck factor on whether you will have a good supporting teammates or wat.
And i feel that this guide is quite newbie friendly. Well, my term for newbie(noobs as u may call them) are those who willing to venture more of the game learn more ways and tactics to attain victory. Dota, is after all, a team based game. A newbie is for those who are willing to learn and get better at it. And then be a better player at it. But still not a pro. A pro for me is those who played games to earn money.
QUOTE(Ban Guan @ May 24 2006, 06:17 PM)
dun think tat the guide taken from dota portal all is true
weakness
low HP => wtf of this, almost all int n agi hero (1.8 str /Lv lower than Snip/Bone ?)
slow attack speed => vs attack speed faster than bone(dint cast skill)
low stat growth => 1.8 + 2.35 + 1.75 = 5.9(better than other tat only + 5.2/Lv)
move speed lower then other hero tat only hav 280/275 ?
if this is weaknees of vs, then other hero is imbalance liao lar, all of them can "tapao go back kampung"
my item for vs, all is cheap item but combine gather is nice item.......
ring of regen (1st sell if not enuf slot)
hand of midas (2nd sell if not enuf slot)
power tread
sange n yasha
yasha
chicken (aegis then DR or MKB then BFly)
note here
pt + hom = 1 HyperStone
SnY + Y really good in mid or mid-late game.
(sny' aura and y' aura can stack gather)
try this kind of item build for all range agi hero.
u all will know the attack speed n movespeed increase how many.
Yeah and balanar at night is super imbalance? weakness
low HP => wtf of this, almost all int n agi hero (1.8 str /Lv lower than Snip/Bone ?)
slow attack speed => vs attack speed faster than bone(dint cast skill)
low stat growth => 1.8 + 2.35 + 1.75 = 5.9(better than other tat only + 5.2/Lv)
move speed lower then other hero tat only hav 280/275 ?
if this is weaknees of vs, then other hero is imbalance liao lar, all of them can "tapao go back kampung"
my item for vs, all is cheap item but combine gather is nice item.......
ring of regen (1st sell if not enuf slot)
hand of midas (2nd sell if not enuf slot)
power tread
sange n yasha
yasha
chicken (aegis then DR or MKB then BFly)
note here
pt + hom = 1 HyperStone
SnY + Y really good in mid or mid-late game.
(sny' aura and y' aura can stack gather)
try this kind of item build for all range agi hero.
u all will know the attack speed n movespeed increase how many.
Like i said, its good to venture the game, not staying at one point where you think its enough then you just stop there. In dota every heroes has its pros and cons. Its not like when you see terms like this then you go "oh this and tat has lot of str increase, tat is super imba" Those are just mere facts that you need to know about this hero. And purely he's stated out the facts of this hero. Its true. Not all heroes have the same stat growth. So do you think: pudge having this third skill(forgot the skill name. meh), where with 0.12 strenght increase per creep kill and 1 per hero is imba to you? Naga also has low stats growth then will you say that this may cost others to be imba too?
Every hero has its ups and downs, pros and cons. But that's why there's items and the term farming around. Naix has basicly the lowest base damage melee hero in the game(well as i know it was in v5). But there's items that can add up for his weakness.
I know im yada daba dooing here, but heck, im just pointing out the facts here.
btw, that's just a guide, READ, A GUIDE! o_o
This post has been edited by R a D ! c 4 L: May 24 2006, 09:45 PM
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i would join, but i'll be up in genting for the chivas rave 
, need some nulls though to use all the spells, get euls or skadi or linken later
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