hi i'm a fresh graduate, working at Jobstreet as software engineer where they offering RM 2500 vs altera RM 2900 + 500 allowance.

anyone, if you got these 2 offers, which 1 do you choose? anyone has comment about these 2 companies pls give me a guide.

u got both offer or wat..?? u so kengz 1 ar...

both at penang rite.
wat i noe is both r oso expanding.

altera is a US based comp in penang. located in bayan lepas.
they hav a gud benefit as they r foreign company. one thing is u need to work hard. tis info i get thru google and frens in penang working around the area. i was unlucky coz they rejected my application.

i dunno bout workin jobstreet.

Jobstreet's offer also quite good one ar...abit regret not to attend the interview last time...

what u do in jobstreet?
i mean, do you develop software and so on?

because software eng as i understand they are developing the software or you can call it engineering tools to be sold together with their semicon product....

in term of job satisfaction and benefit wise, altera wont be below to jobstreet so down to the question is what is your work type preferences and wat software eng do in jobstreet compare to altera

jobstreet u work half way boh song can use company database find job easily

i got jobstreet offer already, but altera pass first interview and waiting for their call.

well, jobstreet is doing web base system, they offer me a job that working in R&D department for maintaining and research about jobstreet's online system.

i get a call from jobstreet and i told them i'm still considering about altera, and she(a job consultant) tell me that altera got high pay but very few exposure and software tools they use are just for their own product, so if u want change company, it's quite hard for u because you only learn c/C++ for their product.

she continues to mention that jobstreet is different, they will send me for training, expose to new technology, and is not like working in a factory and keep coding only.

so you guys think what she said is true? actually i can work with c/c++ or .net as well coz i know both of them. And now the problem is regarding my future i think once i step into either, there is no turning back for me. and i have to keep moving onward on the particular language.

what she say is "almost" true. working in a mnc is about specializing ur skill. so basically u wont handle job far away from your own job scope. smaller company tent to do "one leg kick" and handle more of the related job.

regarding about training and expose to new technology, there is not much diff.. company do send their staff for training... and keep their staff up to date on what happening around the industry....

whether altera or jobstreet.. then u have to think what type of work env u like and what the opportunity you have in both company lo.... like wat you have in the next 3 years?

bare in mind that know more and handle more job responsibility doesnt mean better pay in future.... example will be u know alot of coding language, but u wanted to jump to a company tat specilize C++, so ur other coding language experience is not relevent anymore.. this is where the generalist and the specilist case come in.... get wat i mean ar? poor english sorry..

just talk to both party more question although both company will try to brain wash u....

hope it help.. good luck

thanks for you advice. one question regarding working at altera, do i have any chance to expose to customers or other parties rather than sitting and coding? i don hopes to sit and code everyday, but i hope at least got 10-25% of time can go out to meet customer or somebody.

anyone know more about altera can answer me this question?

nope chances meeting customer are towards 0%. you will talk to Apps Engineer and those ppl come out with the software requirement....

so basically, you stay in the factory...

altera guy here actually

This post has been edited by RynLCyn: May 10 2006, 02:38 PM

good luck luu erictioh! whichever choice u make I hope it's the best choice for u!

hey altera pay Rm 2900 + 500 (allowance) right? this is a very high amount for fresh graduate. can i know how much is ur salary increment after 1 or 2 years working ?

another thing, i heard many peoples working in software development company saying normally they leave office beyond the fixed time, say the fix time office hour end is 5 pm, but no 1 move on 5 pm but somewhere around 6 to 7 pm only got ppl leave.

i think all software companies will have such case, but just more or less only. so wanna know the percentage that altera employee leave late is how much? coz you know if every day leave late is kinda suffer le...

trust me. u'll get used to it.
sometimes u wish for more time if there's a lot of deadlines to meet

hi, can i know u are in whch department?

oledi go altera 2nd interview but long time no reply...might be gone as well

maybe want to apply different post in altera

wow u are lucky man RM 2900 + 500 = my salary * 2 .i'm fresh graduate also. by the way what is "mnc" means?

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MNC = multinational company


RM3400, wah tinggi lah

I work for (check avatar logo), developing internal tools for the Design & Development ppl for nearly 2 years now (joined as fresh grad - but your salary is higher than when I started). I work on C++ and another obscure language that cannot be mentioned, never worked on web-based/XML/.Net stuff; I guess you can use my experience for comparison if you take the Altera job.

Pros:
1. Specialization
I'm one of few in Malaysia who know the tools and the prog language, so our skills are pretty specialized. Being a specialist, there's some sense of job security as it's in the company's best interest to retain me if there are layoffs as it's difficult and expensive to find a replacement for ppl with the knowledge I have.

Cons:
1. Over-specialization
Because I've never done all the cool new stuff like XML/.Net/AJAX etc since I grad, changing jobs will be difficult - will have to start from zero.

You'll have to make the decision, but most MNCs invest a lot in training up their ppl, so the jobstreet lady really sounds desperate (and trying to mislead you).

Another note: programming is about concepts - if you really understand the concepts then switching languages is not that hard. There are developers here who can work on C++/C#/Phyton/PERL at the same time and do pretty amazing stuff.

This post has been edited by cks2k2: May 11 2006, 09:49 AM

salary ok wat...

Of course Altera better lah. I heard got stock sumore

altera's software is actually quite advanced and you'll have travelling opportunity. their travel allowance is very good.
and they are building a multi-storey car park, so if you drive there, you car will be well protected and you don't have to pay.
leaving work after the normal time is normal, wait till you have to stay in till late night during crunch period