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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V133, Bear coming?

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hlily
post Jul 12 2013, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jul 12 2013, 03:08 PM)
laugh.gif Pain on loss money still can tahan.............high cash in hand so itchy, tak boleh tahan
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yes correct
i also tak boleh tahan
hlily
post Jul 12 2013, 04:41 PM

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is it Aeon and AeonCr ok for investment?

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post Jul 12 2013, 05:14 PM

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China Stationery Ltd sees 9.65% stake crossed

China Stationery Ltd's 120 million shares were traded off-market at an average price of 30 sen each on Friday.

Stock market data showed the 120 million shares accounted for 9.65% of its paid-up of 1.242 billion units. The shares were crossed 1.5 sen above Thursday's closing price of 28.5 sen.
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post Jul 12 2013, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jul 12 2013, 02:57 PM)
Aiyoh.. Just some retracement only mah.
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Uncle tulang, u think next week got hope or not? tongue.gif
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post Jul 12 2013, 05:29 PM

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Technical outlook on Thheavy is quite promising.
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post Jul 12 2013, 05:31 PM

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What is the difference between Trading and Investment? How to define both terms? Someone please advice me.
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post Jul 12 2013, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(PlayMaker` @ Jul 12 2013, 05:31 PM)
What is the difference between Trading and Investment? How to define both terms? Someone please advice me.
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Different people, different terms.
Investment is more on the yields - dividends and growth of dividends over a long period of time. People who invest rarely sell their shares unless there has been a change in the company's fundamental and core advantages.
Trading focuses more on capital appreciation over a short term period of time. Short term is subjective. It's up to your interpretation.
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On a side note, index now rated at 59 (Greed) for US market. brows.gif
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post Jul 12 2013, 05:50 PM

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oh damnit... missed ekowood! Any news on it?
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EPF very busy disposing shares in Bursa Malaysia. Need money to fund the London Project hmm.gif
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post Jul 12 2013, 06:10 PM

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will look at THheavy
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post Jul 12 2013, 06:11 PM

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hmm.gif Subsidiary compay of KLK being sue by Indon gomen due to farm burning...........
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post Jul 12 2013, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(PlayMaker` @ Jul 12 2013, 03:29 PM)
glad to see one of the SENDAI shareholder here....  smile.gif hope it keeps flying...
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Its an undervalue counter
how long have you holding it?
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post Jul 12 2013, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jul 12 2013, 06:10 PM)
EPF very busy disposing shares in Bursa Malaysia. Need money to fund the London Project  hmm.gif
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saving bullets to wait for QE exit. laugh.gif
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post Jul 12 2013, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jul 12 2013, 05:34 PM)
On a side note, index now rated at 59 (Greed) for US market.  brows.gif
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thanks for the update.
now we have 41 points more to go. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(PlayMaker` @ Jul 12 2013, 05:31 PM)
What is the difference between Trading and Investment? How to define both terms? Someone please advice me.
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They are not different thing, just different terms concentrating on different skill. But everyone needs both of them to be successful in any investment, not just stock market, but in any business.

For instance, in doing business.
We need to be confident and knowledgeable in order to make good business decisions, which required lots of guts and risk appetite to step out of the ordinary.
And at the same time, we also must be aware of the risk we involved in the business, as well as be aware of what the competitors have been up to even if they are (still) small today and unaffected to our business. This required defensive mind.

Conclusion, we need both of those skills for sure. cool2.gif

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post Jul 12 2013, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jul 12 2013, 05:34 PM)
Different people, different terms.
Investment is more on the yields - dividends and growth of dividends over a long period of time. People who invest rarely sell their shares unless there has been a change in the company's fundamental and core advantages.
Trading focuses more on capital appreciation over a short term period of time. Short term is subjective. It's up to your interpretation.
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 12 2013, 10:00 PM)
They are not different thing, just different terms concentrating on different skill. But everyone needs both of them to be successful in any investment, not just stock market, but in any business.

For instance, in doing business.
We need to be confident and knowledgeable in order to make good business decisions, which required lots of guts and risk appetite to step out of the ordinary.
And at the same time, we also must be aware of the risk we involved in the business, as well as be aware of what the competitors have been up to even if they are (still) small today and unaffected to our business. This required defensive mind.

Conclusion, we need both of those skills for sure.  cool2.gif
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Thanks both for your kind explanation.

QUOTE(MarketingDude @ Jul 12 2013, 06:29 PM)
Its an undervalue counter
how long have you holding it?
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not long bro... just 2 months only...
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MWE buying 22.15% stake in KEuro for RM155m

MWE Holdings Bhd is boosting its stake in Kumpulan Europlus Bhd to 27.14% by acquiring 115.40 million shares for RM1.35 each as it seeks exposure to KEuro's projects, especially the 233km West Coast Expressway.

MWE said on Friday it had over the past two days bought 26 million KEuro shares for RM1.14 each via business transactions for a total of RM29.64mil.

Following these acquisitions, it then decided to up the stake by proposing to acquire another 22.15% stake or 115.40 million shares for RM155.79mil or RM1.35 each from Tan Sri Chan Ah Chye @ Chan Chong Yoon and Sze Choon Holdings Sdn Bhd.

Kumpulan Euro, through its 80% owned WestCoast Expressway Sdn Bhd, had on Jan 2, 2013 signed a concession agreement with the government of Malaysia for the West Coast Expressway project.
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post Jul 13 2013, 07:50 AM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jul 12 2013, 05:34 PM)
Different people, different terms.
Investment is more on the yields - dividends and growth of dividends over a long period of time. People who invest rarely sell their shares unless there has been a change in the company's fundamental and core advantages.
Trading focuses more on capital appreciation over a short term period of time. Short term is subjective. It's up to your interpretation.
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I would say investors are after both dividend and capital appreciation.
OTOH, in markets which allow it, traders would do short selling too.
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QUOTE(PlayMaker` @ Jul 12 2013, 05:31 PM)
What is the difference between Trading and Investment? How to define both terms? Someone please advice me.
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My thinking is simple.
I think of myself as owning a business. My business is to make money from the stock market.
My inventory is the 'shares' I buy from the stock market.
Inventory management is extremely important.
It is utmost important I do not own inventory that depreciates in time.
And because it is very possible that I might purchase poor inventory or inventory that I feel has poor future outlook, I try to trade (sell) off these inventory to avoid further losses.

Trading and investing? Mana ada difference?
My one sen view, which could be wrong, is that there are not much of a difference.
Investors still buy and sell shares and this for me, is trading.
Of course, there are many who makes bad purchases.
Somehow they think that time could rectify their mistakes. wink.gif

Of course, then there are punters.
Punters who just gambles on hot stocks, hoping their punt rake in thousands by the hour.

If you want to be in this game, just know what you are good at and not what other recommend is good for you. smile.gif

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