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Godek
post Mar 14 2015, 02:22 AM

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Hi Guys,

Wanted to get some info from Kenari/Kelisa owner as technically both car are identical (different only on size & design).

I am 2008 Kenari Aerosport Auto owner. My car already clock almost 200k mileage. No major problem so far but I can feel that performance/handling significantly drop maybe due to high mileage.

So my question is what recommended service/part, I should consider to improve car performance?

My Planing
1. Engine overhaul (Pls advise cost)
2. Change timing, aircond & alternator (100k)

Please advise other thing I should consider to service or change part?

Thanks in advance.
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post Mar 15 2015, 10:54 PM

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Guys, i just did a complete overhaul for my Kelisa, the cost rm 2700. Now my car have this whistling problem when i start pressing the accelerator. what can it be ah
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post Mar 17 2015, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(azlan13 @ Mar 15 2015, 10:54 PM)
Guys, i just did a complete overhaul for my Kelisa, the cost rm 2700. Now my car have this whistling problem when i start pressing the accelerator. what can it be ah
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I think its common. my 2003 kelisa kelisa also gives the same sound, like xhi xhi whistling sound when i press-release-press the accelerator.


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post Mar 17 2015, 01:23 PM

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post Mar 18 2015, 05:50 AM

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Nice output mike

How much for the paintjob?
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post Mar 18 2015, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(azlan13 @ Mar 15 2015, 10:54 PM)
Guys, i just did a complete overhaul for my Kelisa, the cost rm 2700. Now my car have this whistling problem when i start pressing the accelerator. what can it be ah
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Hi Azlan,

Would be great if you could share with us what are the repairs done for overhaul costing RM2700.
Just a brief summary of major items in the overhaul job.
Many Kelisa/Kenari in excess of 10 years are due for a major overhaul, including mine.

Also which w/shop you did it. (PM me if necessary)
Thank you.

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post Mar 18 2015, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Mar 17 2015, 01:23 PM)
My cosmetic change...
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Hi Mike,

You did your car paint job & modify where?
Seems well done & how much it cost totally?


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post Mar 20 2015, 01:37 PM

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Hello friends abcde 90, smokeman 50.

sori for the late reply as there r 2 thread here n i dint read these. Sori.
actually the paint jib was around 1.7k for total paint...meaning they will take off almost everything before painting...such as tail lamps, mudguard, roof rubber seals and anything needs to be removed n revived. I then asked to paint the underneath such as mudguard, all metal parts below the car, rims with special paints and all rubber door seals etc etc.
also asked for fitting in my insuflex sound proof on the inside of front fenders.etc.etc. Total 2.1k included wiring of the front new grills.

The colors r the new Honda Jazz 2015 brilliant metallic blue and the grey rims also Homda Jazz 2015 mettalic grey.

Front full set was bought from Mudah. A vefy friendly malay hobbyist at 1.1k. Note that the front grill has 5 batang horizontal chrome grills. Those with 6 batang is cheaper at rm800 only. Fixing the full front cost rm450 with lots of mod request.

This post has been edited by mikehwy: Mar 20 2015, 01:38 PM
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post Mar 20 2015, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Mar 17 2015, 01:23 PM)
My cosmetic change...
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QUOTE(smokeman50 @ Mar 18 2015, 08:35 AM)
Hi Mike,

You did your car paint job & modify where?
Seems well done & how much it cost totally?
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tankx3
post Apr 15 2015, 10:35 AM

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HI all,

time to revive this thread~ brows.gif can you guys recommend any Kelisa stock size tyres (I think 14") for me? Price? Performance? Comfort? I found one shop selling 2nd hand perodua kelisa sport rims price RM400 after trade in my steel rims. Price OK?
what type of multimedia player u all have? Stock player? With USB? Or any with screen one?
Thanks

This post has been edited by tankx3: Apr 15 2015, 10:36 AM
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post Apr 15 2015, 10:42 AM

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RM400 for 14" sports rim??? Just rims only I assume. Quite a bargain.
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post Apr 15 2015, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(FatalitY @ Apr 15 2015, 10:42 AM)
RM400 for 14" sports rim??? Just rims only I assume. Quite a bargain.
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I said wrongly, it is the OEM rims. RM400. Is it worth? As I survey older threads say around the price can get new rims. But is there any cars that using this size of tyres/rims as well? If yes, then maybe its easier to find the stock size. And I will keep survey at tyre shops.

any bros here can share experience of kelisa seat re-condition? Thanks..

This post has been edited by tankx3: Apr 15 2015, 11:28 PM
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post Apr 17 2015, 12:01 AM

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Just found this tered. Ada kelab rupanya my kelisa.

Owner of 2002 manual Kelisa maroon kaler reporting in!
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post Apr 20 2015, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Mar 17 2015, 01:23 PM)
My cosmetic change...
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Wow nice.. I want to do the same too with my kelisa.
But if we do like this, it is illegal right? If roadblock.. We are doomed.. sad.gif
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post Apr 20 2015, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(xxx306 @ Apr 20 2015, 10:02 PM)
Wow nice.. I want to do the same too with my kelisa.
But if we do like this, it is illegal right? If roadblock.. We are doomed..  sad.gif
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the front parts Gino Kelisa can be cheaper if you spend some time to surf around mudah##.
not illegal. after color change you shd ask the shop or yourself to go to puspakom and then jpj for permit and color change in your car reg card. its safe la ...
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post Apr 23 2015, 12:51 AM

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Hi Sifu,

Its about Kelisa air-con.
Model: EZ 2003, I have been told it's a Denso.

Just wanted to know, where is the location of the so-called dryer/filter?

Is it attached next to the radiator?

If looking from the front of the car grille, is it on the left side of the radiator unit?

There seems to be a long cylindrical object there.

Can anyone enlighten on this?

Need to know urgently.

Thanks to all Sifu.

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post Apr 24 2015, 12:26 AM

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Based on my experience after servicing my Kelisa air cond, the dryer/filter is as you said the long cylindrical object right next to the condenser which is in front of the radiator.

Aside from that, to all sifus here I had heard from an auto performance shop that Kelisa can use Alza absorber mounting rather than Kelisa's own. Alza absorber mounting is bearing based which is more durable and better than Kelisa own. Have anyone used Alza absorber mounting in their Kelisa?
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post Apr 25 2015, 06:11 AM

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QUOTE(skizco @ Apr 24 2015, 12:26 AM)
Based on my experience after servicing my Kelisa air cond, the dryer/filter is as you said the long cylindrical object right next to the condenser which is in front of the radiator.

Aside from that, to all sifus here I had heard from an auto performance shop that Kelisa can use Alza absorber mounting rather than Kelisa's own. Alza absorber mounting is bearing based which is more durable and better than Kelisa own. Have anyone used Alza absorber mounting in their Kelisa?
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Thanks for reply. Noted on the dryer position.

I have no idea about the Alza absorber mounting for Kelisa use.
But I will share some general hindsight with you.
There's a saying: Buyer's beware (Caveat Emptor)

Auto Performance is exactly what they do: mix & match & substitute to produce some superior effects.
Any long term reseach done?
They thrive on immediate & visible effects by exploring and inventing new applications.
2 years later? 4 years later? What happens then? Any side effects to the car structures?

Also, no need to ask Perodua, because they will always say use their recommended spares only, full stop!
Follow what the Japanese had told them in their ISO books.

So where does that leave us, the consumers?
How do we decide what's better?
Caveat Emptor again!

That's what an Auto Performance told me those days; change to different brand absorbers;
so that the Kelisa ride is not so harsh and noisy, and also these absorbers last longer than originals.

Intentions may be genuine & sincere, but factually inaccurate.
As the English idiom goes: "Little knowledge is a dangerous thing".
But then "necessity is the mother of invention"

I never did change my absorbers to his suggestion; perhaps he was right then; who knows?
But if things go wrong; and may go hazardously wrong later; who is to blame?

In the end, you have to weight his circle of technical competencies against a giant automotive corporation's.

If you ask around other Auto performances; they will tell you similar schools of thoughts;
because they are likely teh tarik friends, same trade associations, same vocational alma mater, relatives & whatsapp pals.

How to get reliable independent technical information, that's backed by evidence of empirical data?
Probably not so soon since automotive expertise have not reach a consummate level;
also existing purist auto performance may not be willing to re-work my Kelisa.

This is where the forum comes in just handily.
Stick to original ISO or eventually '... may the force be with you'.

This post has been edited by smokeman50: Apr 25 2015, 06:21 AM
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post Apr 25 2015, 06:49 AM

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QUOTE(smokeman50 @ Apr 25 2015, 06:11 AM)
Thanks for reply. Noted on the dryer position.

I have no idea about the Alza absorber mounting for Kelisa use.
But I will share some general hindsight with you.
There's a saying: Buyer's beware (Caveat Emptor)

Auto Performance is exactly what they do: mix & match & substitute to produce some superior effects.
Any long term reseach done?
They thrive on immediate & visible effects by exploring and inventing new applications.
2 years later? 4 years later? What happens then? Any side effects to the car structures?

Also, no need to ask Perodua, because they will always say use their recommended spares only, full stop!
Follow what the Japanese had told them in their ISO books.

So where does that leave us, the consumers?
How do we decide what's better?
Caveat Emptor again!

That's what an Auto Performance told me those days; change to different brand absorbers;
so that the Kelisa ride is not so harsh and noisy, and also these absorbers last longer than originals.

Intentions may be genuine & sincere, but factually inaccurate.
As the English idiom goes: "Little knowledge is a dangerous thing".
But then "necessity is the mother of invention"

I never did change my absorbers to his suggestion; perhaps he was right then; who knows?
But if things go wrong; and may go hazardously wrong later; who is to blame?

In the end, you have to weight his circle of technical competencies against a giant automotive corporation's.

If you ask around other Auto performances; they will tell you similar schools of thoughts;
because they are likely teh tarik friends, same trade associations, same vocational alma mater, relatives & whatsapp pals.

How to get reliable independent technical information, that's backed by evidence of empirical data?
Probably not so soon since automotive expertise have not reach a consummate level;
also existing purist auto performance may not be willing to re-work my Kelisa.

This is where the forum comes in just handily.
Stick to original ISO or eventually '... may the force be with you'.
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Smoke and, you sound like a wise teacher.. Hehe. First time seeing someone quoting lots of phrases and idioms.
Yes, you're right in some ways. They're from same school of thoughts... Sometimes Base on hear say without knowing the actual story/facts behind it.
Anyway just for knowledge and discussion.... Sometimes manufacturer share parts amongst models. So that's why can cross change to substitute.
As for absorbers only without springs, I don't see the problem changing one to the aftermarket. The aftermarket company are also giant company that has their own R&D dept. They are also the OEM suppliers at times. E.g. Kayaba n apm. APM makes perodua absorbers they also makes aftermarket absorbers. They have already the tools in place. Why not improve the ride handling with their already employed staff? Kayaba makes Toyota. There is enough room for "error" to prevent any adverse effects to your cars structural strength.
Having said that, it all depends on the car owners objectives and views. If he's a hardcore car enthusiasts, he'll take the little risk(changing parts without modifying original car structure) or higher rish(modify original structure to fit in new parts) to go with aftermarket parts with own research to modify his car.
Need to take some risk to excite your life. Life will be mundane and boring without some excitement.
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post Apr 26 2015, 05:59 AM

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QUOTE(lucankong82 @ Apr 25 2015, 06:49 AM)
Smoke and, you sound like a wise teacher.. Hehe. First time seeing someone quoting lots of phrases and idioms.
Yes, you're right in some ways. They're from same school of thoughts... Sometimes Base on hear say without knowing the actual story/facts behind it.
Anyway just for knowledge and discussion.... Sometimes manufacturer share parts amongst models. So that's why can cross change to substitute.
As for absorbers only without springs, I don't see the problem changing one to the aftermarket. The aftermarket company are also giant company that has their own R&D dept. They are also the OEM suppliers at times. E.g. Kayaba n apm. APM makes perodua absorbers they also makes aftermarket absorbers. They have already the tools in place. Why not improve the ride handling with their already employed staff?  Kayaba makes Toyota. There is enough room for "error" to prevent any adverse effects to your cars structural strength.
Having said that, it all depends on the car owners objectives and views. If he's a hardcore car enthusiasts, he'll take the little risk(changing parts without modifying original car structure) or higher rish(modify original structure to fit in new parts)  to go with aftermarket parts with own research to modify his car.
Need to take some risk to excite your life. Life will be mundane and boring without some excitement.
😁
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Hi and thanks for your feedback.
I was merely sharing my car experiences and thoughts.
None wiser than any sifu in the forum here.

I acknowledge that 'known' aftermarket replacement parts are as good as prescribed originals.
And cheaper too but be aware of the 'grades' of spares and the many 'other' aftermarket competitors.

I am cautious of subsitution with parts of different specifications.
As in the case of parts of one model being used in another car model.

Nothing against 3rd party automotive providers nor innovative entrepreneurship.
Well and good for the many start-up's that offer an alternative solution.
However there are few contenders in R&D optimisation compared to the Giants.

Still one needs to exercise caveat emptor for excitement risk-taking.
Then there are also the factors of technical expertise and the right tools needed for the job.

End of the day, I surmise that majority of Kelisa owners are either seeking a safe bet or toying.
Hope to receive more infor on Kelisa issues.

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