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dares
post Jun 22 2013, 01:48 PM

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"VRROOOONNNGGGGGGG............"
".....VROOOONGONGONGONGONGONGOOOOONGGGG
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Says the loud exhaust LMST as I overtake it while climbing up a slope rolleyes.gif

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post Jun 22 2013, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(choonhuen.koh @ Jun 22 2013, 12:06 PM)
Hi Bros, been driving my flx for awhile now, but the throttle lag sometimes is kinda annoying, is it a nature of CVT or is there anything that can be done to improve it.

Plus, i c that the FSB & RSB is sth dat is recommended to be installed, mind asking wht r the major improvements.

TQ so much in advance.
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its the lag of drive by wire couple with the clutch in CVT that contributes to the throttle lag.

QUOTE(Noobdao @ Jun 22 2013, 12:36 PM)
hi everyone....I dunno u all have experience this before....my car cant start at 1st...no any sound coming out...then I take out the key and start again...then can d.....
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cant detect immobilizer chip. Sometimes when eather too hot or cold, Saga electronics will also mysteriously malfunction. laugh.gif

I kena the start car and the door actuator part before. On a very bright sunny hot day, all four actuators wont push the lock down, but when open the door POOON POOON POOOON POOOONNNN... rclxub.gif
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post Jun 22 2013, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 22 2013, 01:48 PM)
"VRROOOONNNGGGGGGG............"
".....VROOOONGONGONGONGONGONGOOOOONGGGG
"

Says the loud exhaust LMST as I overtake it while climbing up a slope  rolleyes.gif
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if you dint change car you can just go...

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM~
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post Jun 22 2013, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 22 2013, 02:23 PM)
if you dint change car you can just go...

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM~
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I HMMMMMMMM HMMMM HMMMMM whistling.gif also overtake him liao....That fella VROONG VROONGONGONGONG going 40km/h up the slope summore hogging the fast lane doh.gif

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post Jun 22 2013, 03:15 PM

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40kph on fast lane? ohmy.gif

Kapcai also can korner faster than that. lolz
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post Jun 22 2013, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 22 2013, 03:15 PM)
40kph on fast lane? ohmy.gif

Kapcai also can korner faster than that. lolz
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Going uphill la....no powah coz all the ponies escaped from that giant straight flow whistling.gif

Neh, that uphill in front of SIRIM after a corner off Bukit Jalil Highway doh.gif

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post Jun 22 2013, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(choonhuen.koh @ Jun 22 2013, 12:06 PM)
Hi Bros, been driving my flx for awhile now, but the throttle lag sometimes is kinda annoying, is it a nature of CVT or is there anything that can be done to improve it.

Plus, i c that the FSB & RSB is sth dat is recommended to be installed, mind asking wht r the major improvements.

TQ so much in advance.
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Try install grounding cable.my flx is install it and it does improve the responsiveness and low speed jerking.
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post Jun 22 2013, 05:06 PM

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I just want to share this little technical know how with fellow gaga owners here. Previously we talked about changing the stock extractor (headers) to aftermarket ones be it S.Steel or W.Steel

Most of the time when we buy headers we see the exterior most of the time. The weld on the exterior and the bending but most people forgot or do not know other than checking the exterior, the interior of the headers is the most important thing and what sets the few K headers from the few hundred one.

I spent some time today to went to different exhaust shop and snap pictures of the headers they are selling but I won't name the shop out or the brands of these headers (some don't even have brands)

Picture A
Below is 1 of the S.Steel extractor I saw and snap a pic of it. Notice any problem with it? It's ok if you can't see it. I will tell you. Look at the joining point of the runner to the mounting plate on the left and to the right. See the difference? This is something you don't want to have. The left runner is not fully slotted in to have a flush fitting with the mounting plate while the right one is fully slotted in. This little thing sometime is not noticeable but it will make a bit of difference when you put into your engine. Although the left runner was been slightly ported but it still have a step or ridge this will cause air flow turbulence on the exhaust gas. This is clearly a workmanship error.
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Picture B
This one is from another local maker. This one you can see that the manufacturer they just weld the edge of the primary runners onto the mounting plate compare to the previous one which slot into the mounting plate and weld on the outside only. A good extractor maker will only weld outside of the primary runners and not weld on the joints as the welded area will have bumps and uneven surface which will penetrate into the inner side of the runners. There's some bad things when you have weld like this. 1. The welded area will crack and opens up after sometimes of use due to vibration, resonance and constant expansion and contraction of the steel. 2. Rust will happens on the inner side of the runners due to the weld.
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So next time you go to an exhaust shop to change your headers, please ask to see the actual items before fitting and check the interior part. If it does not satisfy you then just don't change it. Although the part might give you improvement but the part is not performing close to 100% efficiency. If you have the guts and skill then you can buy a better one with only slight bumps bring it home and port it before you DIY install into your car.

Now, if changing to aftermarket headers is not in you list due to price or some other reason there's another way to improve the flow of your stock extractor.

As we all know stock headers are produced in mass quantity and with cost in mind so the fitment tolerance is surely to be higher than those good performance header. Most of the time the exhaust port opening of the cylinder block is bigger than the exhaust manifold (due to fitment tolerance and mass production). Most performance shop also offers only port and polish for the cylinder block but never the exhaust manifold. So below I show you how to port your stock headers exhaust opening to be the same as your exhaust port on the block.

You can refer to the link here to get an idea how it's done.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?3603731

After I've done the DIY to my 206 few years back it felt lighter on the initial to low rev. That's what my butt dyno tells me since I don't have an actual dyno. The differences might be small but for a small cc car but every drop of power that can squeeze out will make a difference. The tools you need also not much if you don't have a Dremel or die grinder a power drill will do also and patience. Also due to the porting process you get some venturi aka cone shape effect which is good. Such porting is not popular in Malaysia and mostly DIYers will do it rather than shop.

Hope the information shared here is beneficial to all. smile.gif

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post Jun 22 2013, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 22 2013, 09:16 AM)
Pagi pagi nampak Maxwell round my college area macam kam yu Lou...
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lol....where got golden fish XD actually i was targeting your college's girl biggrin.gif
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post Jun 22 2013, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jun 22 2013, 05:06 PM)
I just want to share this little technical know how with fellow gaga owners here. Previously we talked about changing the stock extractor (headers) to aftermarket ones be it S.Steel or W.Steel

Most of the time when we buy headers we see the exterior most of the time. The weld on the exterior and the bending but most people forgot or do not know other than checking the exterior, the interior of the headers is the most important thing and what sets the few K headers from the few hundred one.

I spent some time today to went to different exhaust shop and snap pictures of the headers they are selling but I won't name the shop out or the brands of these headers (some don't even have brands)

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post Jun 22 2013, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(Manlet @ Jun 22 2013, 03:08 PM)
think think first

the light bar  is long enuf, but not width enuf  hmm.gif

ngam ngam my skirting got 2 kosong space can put DRL  laugh.gif
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the bar got 2 lenght, mine is 14cm lenght got one is 17cm length,,

QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jun 22 2013, 05:06 PM)
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deng, nice review~! thumbup.gif

QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Jun 22 2013, 05:37 PM)
lol....where got golden fish XD actually i was targeting your college's girl  biggrin.gif
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V12K stalker spotted ph34r.gif

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post Jun 22 2013, 07:05 PM

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Just watched the MCM Singapore episode



Singapore - the car enthusiast's hell
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post Jun 22 2013, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jun 22 2013, 06:32 PM)
the bar got 2 lenght, mine is 14cm lenght got one is 17cm length,,
deng, nice review~! thumbup.gif
V12K stalker spotted ph34r.gif
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lol... blush.gif
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post Jun 22 2013, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(jsnkok @ Jun 22 2013, 09:51 AM)
davidke20
thanks for the advice on changing the abs+spring, it was done yesterday and though it solved my floating issue.. the back is probably too hard with the lowered springs,
i can hardly press it down  hmm.gif
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your rear height lower than mine according to ckdenion

QUOTE(dares @ Jun 22 2013, 11:02 AM)
Wah not bad until 2nd gear at 5kph la. No wonder VW cars judder so badly when accelerating at low speed.  hmm.gif You help Ah Hock park cars issit lololol

For the popiah, in traffic jam, don't do that "press abit of throttle->lift off->quickly press again" in D gear, because when you liftoff it will upshift to 2nd gear then when you press again the clutch will slip, then suddenly downshift back to first gear and jerk.

After updated TCM better liao, it holds first gear longer at low speed, but sometimes it goes back to "stupid" mode. So during really bad jams I just activate Sport/overdrive off/hill grade assist mode to keep the idiotbox from upshifting too soon.

For that reason I seldom let other ppl drive my car, because when driving slow have to be careful with the throttle. Gorillalew kena sound by me last nite also whistling.gif
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what oo ? i got hentam very fast meh ? i dint release tap release leh...

QUOTE(r3apers @ Jun 22 2013, 11:09 AM)
kenjilew kindly convert ur boot to almost like this, so we can TT drink in Car Park~!  whistling.gif

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dont want... convert ur boot better ~ biggrin.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Jun 22 2013, 07:05 PM)
Just watched the MCM Singapore episode



Singapore - the car enthusiast's hell
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i told u last night... u listen to the taxi uncle say... tongue.gif
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post Jun 22 2013, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 22 2013, 10:38 AM)
I mean compared to me.... icon_idea.gif Maxwell I think no need lift the headrest also can  tongue.gif

Nvm la, rear seats not important to me....else would've bought a Fortetek/Pravia/Inspaliah lolololol  brows.gif
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haha...XD biggrin.gif then drive your fofi already popiah
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post Jun 22 2013, 08:35 PM

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Is it normal for the mtal bar near our exhaust to become rusted?

And I found out my air-con blower near the filter to have some "tikus" noise,
and told by the worker it is the blower 's bearing problem..

is the air con blower cover under warranty?


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post Jun 22 2013, 09:16 PM

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Today just DIY flushing radiator coolant and fill with toyota long life coolant.
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post Jun 22 2013, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(king_lover23 @ Jun 22 2013, 08:35 PM)
Is it normal for the mtal bar near our exhaust to become rusted?

And I found out my air-con blower near the filter to have some "tikus" noise,
and told by the worker it is the blower 's bearing problem..

is the air con blower cover under warranty?
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Go complaint to SC. Looks like preve punya main problem gaga also kena... laugh.gif
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after 1 day of driving around with Sachs abs + proride sports spring, it seems that the suspensions like to make mickey mouse noise (squeak) whenever going over humps.. is this normal or the setup above is not suitable ???
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post Jun 22 2013, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 22 2013, 09:32 PM)
Go complaint to SC. Looks like preve punya main problem gaga also kena... laugh.gif
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I ady mentioned this issue to SC this morning when service my car...
They jet up my car, and I just look around and saw this..
They claimed it is normal bcox the exhaust is hot and when kena water,
it will become rusted..

ur car got this ? hmm.gif

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