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but so far i heard, even if the recall them and replace with a new one, problem still persist so how??

This post has been edited by weakmeal69: Jun 12 2013, 05:30 PM

even Audis?

that's a surprise, a car at that kind of level/price having such devastating problem as well.

not just audi..most of conti car that's using DSG got recall.. VW, audi, skoda etc..

i dunno about Ford yet.. they experiencing problems too but till now no recall has been made

That's why Audi all over the worlds are slowly switching to 8AT supplied by ZF. (if not mistaken)

In Malaysia :

A6 hybrid -> 8AT
Q5 -> DSG7 to 8AT (yup, even the quattro DSG which did not know to have problem)

Lower price range like A1 still using SDG7, unfortunately.

Most new BMW are using 8AT from ZF as well.

This post has been edited by amdxp: Jun 12 2013, 05:42 PM

its really troubling considering this issue has been brought up for quite some time and previously they were very firm on denying these allegations spontaneously. Now they are eating their own words and doing the recall.

Have they no concerns for the abundance of owners who are driving their cars daily which could result in a situation like the lady who drove the Golf?

Do they prioritize profits/image over customer's safety?

The more I think of it, the more I realize how wrong and troubling this is.

Ford did a low profile fix on their tranny.

Ford Powershift is made by getrag & DSG is made by borgwarner.

u expect expensive cars to not have problems? in fact i think a lot of expensive cars have more problems than cheap cars

Er...got one small detail.

Audi also use the same mechanical as VW.

Skoda also affected too.

No news in Seat though.

sooner or later bro....

Yikes! Be afraid, be very afraid. VW and Audi, Skoda and SEAT. Seriously no laughing matter this one.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-12/volk...-recall/4747694

This article even mentioned engine rebuild


Mr Makris says he has had the engine rebuilt and gearbox replaced on his Golf.

Case study: Ross Gulliver owns a 2006 Passat

"We had problems over a number of years with the car cutting out when stationary. [It ] wouldn't restart.

"My wife was driving it in most of the instances and it is frightening if you have kids on board.

"I had to drag them (Volkswagen) kicking and screaming to get my car fixed and it is a 2006, with a six-speed and DSG.

"I can't see that the problem is limited to 2008 and beyond."
"I know of some people who have had up to five engines replaced. It's out of control," he said.

"It started initially with a few people, then it blew out to 40 or 50 people, and now it's in the hundreds.

"I believe the cars are very dangerous. I think the DSG (direct shift gearbox), no matter how many times they replace it, it's not going to solve the problem.

"My car's shuddering again. I think it's only a matter of time before we have another tragic fatality on the road."

It is not unexpected. It was something that was bound to happen and just about every mass manufacturing automotive company has to go through this issue.

I've said it before, I think in their drive to become the world no.1 automotive manufacturer, their quality have taken a dip. It might not be directly their fault, might be with their suppliers in trying to keep up with demand, certain steps of QC were skipped in order to meet timely demand.

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/arti...jectid=10890044

NZ too recall

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/10-largest-...alls-in-history

Yes, GM, Toyota, VW, Ford and Honda has all been in the top recall records

Caption:
Volkswagen has a good recall history relative to other mainstream brands in Australia, given it has issued only two notices since 2007. The notices were for flat batteries in Transporters earlier this year and cracked diesel injector pipes in about 7000 VW and Skoda models in 2012, However, Europe’s biggest car-maker is likely to attract criticism for its delay in issuing the DSG recall in Australia, where it has undertaken a number of ‘service campaigns’ to fix a variety of issues.

Today’s recall notice follows a similar recall of almost 400,000 cars after a Chinese television program investigation and subsequent DSG-related recalls in Singapore, Japan, Malaysia and Taiwan. At the time, VW said Australian models were fitted with different transmissions.

Full article:
http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2013/volks...-dsg-cars-37051

not surprising. Audi is under VW and some of them sharing the same engines,etc with luxury price.

VW, Audi, Skoda all the same company, so they use the same gearboxes.

Renault has DSG now too, Ford has, Volvo has (same as Ford I believe), ...

Perhaps the issue with these DSG gearboxes of VW has been fixed, and owners are getting new parts that do not have the fault anymore?

@dtna7: Come on, having an accident like that is highly unlikely. The car doesn't accelerate anymore and she dies because of that?! (That is if that is the case. If the car suddenly slows down quite violently then it is very serious.) Normally I don't believe in luck, but... that's very bad luck. Most likely you'll just slow down and stop at the roadside, confused and angry but unhurt. The issue that some Toyotas had... stuck pedal, so the car would keep accelerating, was much more serious IMHO. Or think about the Ford Pinto in the 70s, which would explode when rear ended. Construction fault where a part of the bumper would be rammed into the fuel tank, creating sparks and... a bit of an explosion I suppose. Ford tried to cover up and thought it'd be cheaper to pay compensation than to issue a recall. Needless to say that did backfire.

I think the problem is that the DSG might not be fully matured, and perhaps a different driving style is necessary for it to be reliable. AFAIK not too long ago Mercedes had introduced a new engine, which was, or is very advanced. Sadly too advanced, so there was a major problem that led to mass death of these engines. Mercedes replaced them and tried to keep owners quiet.

yes i do believe that is very unlikely. (car decelerating suddenly and coincidentally a truck behind slam on the car in this case)

but what troubles my mind is their state of responsibility here. To say "that is untrue at all, we are confident that there is nothing wrong" and then coming back shortly to say, "Ok there is something wrong, we will be doing something about it as being responsible" is just pure bullsh1t coming from such a huge brand like VW affecting so many lives.

This post has been edited by dtna7: Jun 12 2013, 09:11 PM

As a business, what do you expect them to say? "It's completely our fault, our car killed our customer, we shall immediately look into the matter.". It will open a floodgate of class action lawsuits they can't win (well they did go on record to say it is their fault) and hugely negative publicity. They cannot afford to claim full responsibility for those cases.

They didn't even admit "something is wrong". Instead of saying "send your car to the nearest dealership for our recall exercise because one of our customers got killed" They spun it as "As a responsible carmaker we are launching this recall exercise to give our customers a piece of mind."

Welcome to the world of PR.