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post Jun 12 2013, 06:09 PM

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Yikes! Be afraid, be very afraid. VW and Audi, Skoda and SEAT. Seriously no laughing matter this one.
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post Jun 12 2013, 06:46 PM

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-12/volk...-recall/4747694

This article even mentioned engine rebuild


Mr Makris says he has had the engine rebuilt and gearbox replaced on his Golf.

Case study: Ross Gulliver owns a 2006 Passat

"We had problems over a number of years with the car cutting out when stationary. [It ] wouldn't restart.

"My wife was driving it in most of the instances and it is frightening if you have kids on board.

"I had to drag them (Volkswagen) kicking and screaming to get my car fixed and it is a 2006, with a six-speed and DSG.

"I can't see that the problem is limited to 2008 and beyond."
"I know of some people who have had up to five engines replaced. It's out of control," he said.

"It started initially with a few people, then it blew out to 40 or 50 people, and now it's in the hundreds.

"I believe the cars are very dangerous. I think the DSG (direct shift gearbox), no matter how many times they replace it, it's not going to solve the problem.

"My car's shuddering again. I think it's only a matter of time before we have another tragic fatality on the road."



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post Jun 12 2013, 06:48 PM

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http://m.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/arti...jectid=10890044

NZ too recall
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post Jun 12 2013, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jun 12 2013, 06:47 PM)
It is not unexpected. It was something that was bound to happen and just about every mass manufacturing automotive company has to go through this issue.

I've said it before, I think in their drive to become the world no.1 automotive manufacturer, their quality have taken a dip. It might not be directly their fault, might be with their suppliers in trying to keep up with demand, certain steps of QC were skipped in order to meet timely demand.
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http://editorial.autos.msn.com/10-largest-...alls-in-history

Yes, GM, Toyota, VW, Ford and Honda has all been in the top recall records
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post Jun 12 2013, 06:59 PM

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Volkswagen has a good recall history relative to other mainstream brands in Australia, given it has issued only two notices since 2007. The notices were for flat batteries in Transporters earlier this year and cracked diesel injector pipes in about 7000 VW and Skoda models in 2012, However, Europe’s biggest car-maker is likely to attract criticism for its delay in issuing the DSG recall in Australia, where it has undertaken a number of ‘service campaigns’ to fix a variety of issues.

Today’s recall notice follows a similar recall of almost 400,000 cars after a Chinese television program investigation and subsequent DSG-related recalls in Singapore, Japan, Malaysia and Taiwan. At the time, VW said Australian models were fitted with different transmissions.

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http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2013/volks...-dsg-cars-37051
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post Jun 13 2013, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(alpha0201 @ Jun 13 2013, 08:04 AM)
Reuters

I loled at this statement. Your dirty & disgusting country is not worthy of awesome DSG!
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Just adding up numbers – all recent recalls due to a DSG-related problem

91,000 Japan,
384,181 China,
25,928 Australia ,
2,500 NZ ,
6,181 cars in Singapore (accounting for 35% of its car population in the island nation),
3,962 Malaysia,

Audi 6,000.


It is already about half a mil, Anymore?what was Taiwan's recall number, what was USA's?

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post Jun 13 2013, 02:48 PM

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So in the simplest term, is it the computer system failure? you know computer that hangs and needs reboot... despite all our advances in IT, it always happens

When I look at this vid, all i see can be the problem is the computer

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post Jun 14 2013, 04:10 PM

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to put things in perspective.

Here is the recalls of all makers
http://autos.aol.com/info/recall/
Among others are:
Chrysler To Recall 630,000 SUVs Worldwide, o6-06-2013
Nissan Recalls 841,000 Vehicles, 23 May 2013
Chrysler Recalls Almost A Half Million Jeeps, 13-05-2013
Honda Recall Affects 205,000 Vehicles, 19-04-2013
Air Bag (made by Japan Takata Group) Recall Affects 3.4 Million Cars From Several Automakers: Toyota, Honda and Nissan .11 Apr 2013
Hyundai and Kia Recall 1.9 Million Vehicles,3 Apr 2013
Honda Recalls Nearly 250,000 Vehicles Over Brake Issue, 14-03-2013
Subaru of America is recalling more than 47,000 cars and SUVs,07-03-2013
Ford is recalling 230,000 minivans,07-03-2013
BMW Recalling Nearly 570,000 Cars, 19-02-2013
Toyota Recalls 1.29 Million Vehicles For Air Bags, Wipers,30 Jan 2013
Honda Issues Major Recall For Airbag Problem (748,000 vehicles), 18-1-2013

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post Jun 14 2013, 04:12 PM

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you can read all about it if you have time. But if you would like to know the nasty ones, here is top 5 top notorious recall of all time by popular mechanics
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/news/...4345725#slide-1
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post Jun 14 2013, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Jun 14 2013, 04:16 PM)
no french??? tongue.gif
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French cars ? what do you expect? not selling in USA since 1980s, staying put in Europe , never really mass produced per se for the rest of the world. Until China...
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post Jun 14 2013, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Jun 14 2013, 04:26 PM)
only italians are on sale in USA

fiat 500, plenty of them in LA area
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I am pretty sure there is recalls for French & Italian cars too, but in the biggers scheme of thing, since the numbers are smaller in comparisons to The American, Japanese and Germans, it becomes very tiny puny barely audible little 'pops'

Just wonder Indian cars got recall ? or Chinese even? hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Jun 14 2013, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jun 14 2013, 04:57 PM)
PSA is on position 6 or so of the worlds biggest car makers though.


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not according to Forbes

not even in top 10 also according to brands

http://www.mbaskool.com/fun-corner/top-bra...ml?limitstart=0
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jun 14 2013, 04:57 PM)
PSA is on position 6 or so of the worlds biggest car makers though.


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not according to Forbes
http://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmuller/20...ding-automaker/


not even in top 10 also according to brands

http://www.mbaskool.com/fun-corner/top-bra...ml?limitstart=0

http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor-news/...0420-1xc14.html
The above show these for 2012

Forbes’ top car makers for 2012
Volkswagen – 17
Toyota – 25
Daimler – 37
Ford – 44
Honda – 59
BMW – 61
General Motors – 63
Nissan – 85
Hyundai – 96
Volvo – 183
Renault – 187
SAIC – 232
Kia – 253
Fiat – 314
Tata – 348
Dongfeng Motor Group – 450
Peugeot – 458
Suzuki – 514
Isuzu – 721
Fuji Heavy Industries (Subaru) – 805
Mahindra and Mahindra – 918
Mitsubishi – 1046
Mazda – 1055
Porsche – 1056
BYD – 1266
Great Wall Motors – 1476
Huayu Automotive – 1779

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post Jun 14 2013, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jun 14 2013, 06:13 PM)
That's weird. Every source is saying something different... one even had Ford behind other brands, despite the arcticle claiming they have produced more cars?!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_in...By_manufacturer
But at least for 2011 PSA was on the 7th spot, Renault 9th.
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Forbes does not define largest purely by sales number but if u only want to look at production output . This is 2012 situation :
And I must caution u : time has changed.

The top 3 are still VW or Toyota or GM all three making output in excess of 8 mil (Toyota claimed 9.9 m) and I am not surprise with their recovery after the devastating tsunami and earthquake of 2011.

Then the next 3 spots i.e. seat no. 4 , 5 and 6 belongs to Hyundai-Kia or Ford and Nissan with output level of 5-7mil output each or thereabouts, e.g. Nissan made 4.889 mil, Hyundai-Kia at 7.12 mil and Ford a bit less at 5.67 mil

The remaining 4 spots gets interesting as it is where the 3 mil to 4 mil makers all stands a chance.

Fiat-Chrysler was a little over 4 mil at 4.2 mil took seat 7.
Honda also about 4 mil so seat 8 is taken

Can the French take 9 & 10? Afraid not, why ? the no 1 car maker in China SAIC that owns MG with output 3.6 mil took seat no. 9

2012 happened to be a bad year for PSA where output drop from 3.5 mil to 2.97mil so out they go from top 10 because another Chinese Dongfeng with 3.2 mil makes more so sit at last spot 10.

I must add it was a bad year for Renault too as output 2012 was just 2.6 mil.

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post Jun 15 2013, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jun 15 2013, 12:03 AM)
Yeah, it fluctuates quite a bit. But still, even if they are not in the top 10, they are quite significant.
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Yeah. Both PSA and Renault are not insignificant. And like I said before have made recalls too

Here is what I have dug out from the great www

http://m.wardsauto.com/psa-peugeot-recall-around-100000-cars
http://m.wardsauto.com/peugeot-recall-2400...-model-307-cars
http://wardsauto.com/peugeot-recall-some-b...-406s-boot-lock

http://m.wardsauto.com/renault-recalls-400...r-nissan-defect

Looks like Renault is the Better French
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post Jun 15 2013, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jun 15 2013, 09:49 AM)
Nah. Could just be that Renault is a bit more reluctant to issue a recall. We bought a new Renault in 1993, which would occasionally have a flat battery. You go somewhere, park the car, 1 hour later the battery was dead. The SC checked and checked and checked... replaced several batteries etc., nothing. The issue went up to Renault Germany headquarters, they too were clue less. IIRC they then checked back with Renault France, who told them it's a known issue and that there was some few cent part that was defective. They just didn't bother to inform their service centers... Of course everything was done under warranty, but still, it was annoying and troublesome. And it wasn't like it's some obscure car no one bought anyway, it was the most popular non-German car at that time. They sold tons of them...

Of course that happened 20 years ago, and the company is probably different now. The car btw. turned out to be reliable, once the bugs were fixed...

Btw., laugh.gif The one recall you found is because of a defective Nissan engine. laugh.gif
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Hahaha, so possibly the recall-reluctant Renault can blame it on Nissan.
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post Sep 6 2013, 09:34 AM

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Volkswagen examines water leakage problem in new Golf

Germany's weekly Auto Bild reported today (-5-09-2013) that the company's best-selling model is prone to leakage of water into the co-driver's footwell because of wrongly installed drainage tubes linked to air-conditioning technology.
The magazine report had said about 300,000 VW Group cars could be affected, including its Audi A3 and Seat Leon compact models.

Read more: http://www.autonews.com/article/20130905/A.../#ixzz2e4XTKDJE

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