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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V132, Everyone Huat!

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SKY 1809
post Jun 18 2013, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 18 2013, 12:50 PM)
Interest rate or overnight rate (OPR) is set by BNM and controlled by respective central bank.

How bond pricing or yield generally (if do not move too drastically) generally won't affect the overnight rate, unless central bank is powerless to control the movement.

Aka if your interest rate too high, massive hot money flow in causing currency shooting drastically
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interest rate too low vs bond pricing, massive outflow causing exchange rate plummeting like 97.

In this situation only the market force can force central bank to act.

But since 97, capital market is not as open and free like last time, aka no limit, no control on how money being TT out/in etc,
, so a good capital control measurement can reduce this kind of issue.

Since 2008 crisis, we can see a free and open movement of capital can cause more harm than good.

That's why Malaysia can have 3% while US interest remain at zero, and there is no massive hot money pouring in, causing RM to shoot up to the roof.

Yes, impact will be there, but if local liquidity is enough, and domestic economy condition is intact, it shouldn't cause any major issue.

That's why I do not see how BNM can opt to hike in interest rate, particularly GDP number is becoming less and less, last month export is shrinking, IPI is weak. And many businesses out there already complain sluggish sales.

Domestic interest rate is to cater domestic economy activities, this is the primary function of the interest rate.
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I do not think it is right to say Banks are not allowed to raise FD interest rates without a change in BLR or OPR.

Banks in fact have lower - 1 to 2 % BLR loans to properties borrowers.

LIkewise , Hong Leong comes out a FD innovation to attract long term depositors ( 6 years ) , more or less expecting FD interest rates to rise in the future.

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 18 2013, 02:20 PM)
I do not think it is right to say Banks are not allowed to raise FD interest rates  without a change in BLR or OPR.

Banks in fact have lower - 1 to 2 % BLR loans to properties borrowers.

LIkewise , Hong Leong comes out a FD innovation to attract long term depositors (  6 years )  , more or less expecting FD interest rates  to rise in the future.
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I don't mean bank is not allowed or allowed.
Banks are always sensitive to interest rate movement.

The moment they expect rate to go up, we may see many bank start offering 1,2 or 5 years FD with rate higher than normal (or short term rate) that intend to lock down the customer deposit rate already.
Just like if current rate is 3%, and they expect to be 5% in the coming few years, banks may start offering long term FD with 4% or something like that to lock down their deposit rate.

With now 1 year common rate out there is 3.1% (not those promotion rate, as many promotion are limited to certain amount, aka bank just want to take in x millions deposit for their liquidity or cash position etc then cease the promotion already) as compared 3% OPR, it doesn't suggest bank see OPR going to be raised for sometimes or near term.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 18 2013, 02:39 PM)
I don't mean bank is not allowed or allowed.
Banks are always sensitive to interest rate movement.

The moment they expect rate to go up, we may see many bank start offering 1,2 or 5 years FD with rate higher than normal (or short term rate) that intend to lock down the customer deposit rate already.
Just like if current rate is 3%, and they expect to be 5% in the coming few years, banks may start offering long term FD with 4% or something like that to lock down their deposit rate.

With now 1 year common rate out there is 3.1% (not those promotion rate, as many promotion are limited to certain amount, aka bank just want to take in x millions deposit for their liquidity or cash position etc then cease the promotion already) as compared 3% OPR, it doesn't suggest bank see OPR going to be raised for sometimes or near term.
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I think Msia is more or less like US too :-

In the case of the Fed, while good communications are vital for controlling markets, they’re complicated by the officials themselves not knowing when to exit, disagreeing over the right timing to do so and political pressure to hold back.

President Barack Obama said Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke has stayed in his post “longer than he wanted,” one of the clearest signals the central bank chief will leave when his current term expires next year.

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David's red horse ada jalan ?

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 18 2013, 04:19 PM)
David's red horse ada jalan ?
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 18 2013, 03:19 PM)
David's red horse ada jalan ?
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hmm.gif 5207 suddenly up 9.6% today..................sharks hidden everywhere, whether we know to dig it or not
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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Jun 18 2013, 03:43 PM)
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hmm.gif resistance at 0.73, if wanna go further.................must break it.

once it break, future is bright

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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jun 18 2013, 03:44 PM)
hmm.gif 5207 suddenly up 9.6% today..................sharks hidden everywhere, whether we know to dig it or not
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Yr Company hmm.gif
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 18 2013, 03:49 PM)
Yr Company  hmm.gif
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tongue.gif nothing related to me.................just in my watchlist due to low PER
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jun 18 2013, 03:49 PM)
tongue.gif nothing related to me.................just in my watchlist due to low PER
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I guess most of the sharks are the "offload mood" aka push up and dump , like Luster yesterday hmm.gif

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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Jun 18 2013, 03:50 PM)
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 18 2013, 03:51 PM)
I guess most of the sharks are the "offload mood" aka push up and dump ,  like Luster yesterday hmm.gif
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hmm.gif agreed............market sentiment always the factor of the sharks change their mind
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jun 18 2013, 03:53 PM)
hmm.gif agreed............market sentiment always the factor of the sharks change their mind
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Well, for those sharks who still hold large volume of stocks, worry about Fed Ben too.

No certainty of attracting ikan bilis back one.
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 18 2013, 03:58 PM)
Well,  for those sharks who still hold large volume of stocks, worry about Fed Ben too.

No certainty of attracting ikan bilis back one.
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hmm.gif sometime sharks also suffer loss, cut loss possible.............

laugh.gif no guarantee the host must win
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Bad Omen ?

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