Hi guys, as per topic, can we import a Xbox One <US> and play it in Malaysia? It is region locked like Xbox 360. So could it be playable like Xbox 360 <US> simply with a US hotmail configuration in Malaysia. Fyi, I am currently own an X360 <Sg> (and PS3 too) with an Asia Hotmail configuration so no issue at all. I've pre-ordered XOne - Day One Edition from Amazon, just wanna sure and clear whether this machine is playable when delivered during the end of the year (just cant wait till 2014/2015 release of XOne in Bolehland).

Thanks in advance for your advice here.

You will hit problems when the game is region restricted. it's not related to your account region but console & game compatibility

its going to be difficult for you to buy NTSC/U games....not to say its expansive too..

Buying NTSC game is not a problem if we purchase it from Amazon or play-asia.
I am more concern about the authentication of the XOne when connected to net. Will it block us from playing XOne <US, NTSC/U> in bolehland (with NTSC/U game of course)?

Btw, just for sharing, way back to 2007 when I first bought X360 <Asia NTSC/C> we can't simply connect to Live. In order to do that we have to create an US hotmail account with US address as well as US credit card info. Things might change in recent year though..

This post has been edited by tbgreen: Jun 12 2013, 03:56 PM

November ain't that far away. So we will know by then.

I have money hot in the chamber ready to shoot if Nov. is tomorrow.

i really really really want to play DR3 and TF!

you can import a xbox one (us) and play it in malaysia, all you need is extra adapter. coz our country power board is no same as usa. i have a usa xbox slim where i order from play asia, still working fine here... yes, the game should region block. but it still easy to order ntsc-u games. and like xbox 360, i believe most game will gonna be region free like now. only a few title will block... just have to do some homework before buying new games. for the hotmail stuff, i not sure. my gametag is usa region coz i cant find malaysia region in xbox and i find out usa region more stuff to download.... but now, microsoft will be no using msp again, i might get trouble for purchasing games on xbox live, coz my usa address is fake....

i would like to per order xbox one usa console also. can i trust amazon? i never buy anything from amazon. will it ship to malaysia? how much will the shipping cost? and do we get extra charge by kastam?

Noted with the adapter thing and wish a simple converter adapter will solve it.

I'm the lucky one that successfully pre-ordered XOne- Day One Edition and PS4 - Launch Edition. Amazon seems sold out these two console now.

I am one of those internet audience that vote for PS4 over XOne in this E3 2013 for its superiority as well as great price point (which doesnt impact us in Bolehland much with our super low currency, both 399 and 499 are expensive after conversion though).

The only reason I ordered XOne is solely because of Forza 5 (yes, I am a big racing fan since I was a boy). While for PS4, we can't get Uncharted 4 anytime soon and GT6 been out for PS3, so I just grabbed Killzone Shadow Fall in the hope to play it in PS4 with my 55" LED.

Fyi, I bought most of my PS3 and X360 from amazon whenever there is huge price drop (quite often and quite cheap) and shipping/delivery is not a problem at all so far (with over 7 years buying experience with Amazon). The shipping cost is base off your selection over how fast is your delivery and it is reasonably cheap if you could lump a few games in one order. So far I've never happen with imposed of custom and my most expensive purchase was over RM900. Might be luck though.

This post has been edited by tbgreen: Jun 12 2013, 05:18 PM

The release date of XOne in Asia is in Fall of 2014 in Sg, HK, Aus & NZ. Bolehland is expected a longer waiting period. If u can't wait, better get one from somewhere before it sold out everywhere. Fyi, PS4 and XOne is sold out in Amazon and others (MS, Gamestop, Play-asia) will out of stock real soon. Good luck.

PS4 is not sold out. They just rename it to Standard Edition. Essentially is the same thing (even description all the same) so you can still pre-order them.

Also Amazon US now offers free shipping to Singapore. So if you want to save a bit more, avoid any custom issues for imports, and have relatives / friends who stay in SG while travelling often between the 2, you can pay with MY credit card and ask to ship to SG.

Yes, the PS4 Standard Edition = looooooooongggg Q, Good Luck!

Free shipping to Sg, what a great news! I were staying in Sg for the past 6 yrs and just back to KL permanently since last Sept... anyway shipping to My doesn't cost much it's merely USD19.90 so it's cnosidered cheap though..

This post has been edited by tbgreen: Jun 12 2013, 05:43 PM

It's not the shipping its the Kastam.

yes, kastam cost more. i remember i order xbox slim from playasia. it ship from hong kong to malaysia. the kastam cost me over rm400...

Really long? Couldn't tell. They have never disappointed me so far.

Amazon charges import fee deposit. Another usd 125 on top of console if ship to msia. That's why I suggest sg if don't want to take huge risk plus free shipping. Maybe the earlier dude got Jalan to avoid it.

Anyway good luck in customizing ur US xbone sets heard got plenty of restrictions by region.

What restrictions? Bad idea to get the US version?

This post has been edited by refnulf: Jun 13 2013, 04:32 AM

The restrictions are the same ol' restriction you have with XBL at the moment.

You can use your current GT to play any disc based game you bought. Probably can't make access NA XBLA due to country IP.

Internet getting kinda ridiculous on the XB1 blame-wagon.

It seems like your games (yes, even disc based games) won't even "activate" when you're connecting from the wrong region.

In other words no Xbox One will work in Malaysia until we get an official release here.

sources:
http://i.imgur.com/5ATLlWV.png
http://i.imgur.com/Rl27k9U.jpg
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/pre-ord...-one/disclaimer

This post has been edited by nub: Jun 13 2013, 10:06 AM

This is the official allowed list:

Australia
Austria
Belgium
Brazil
Canada
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
Ireland
Italy
Mexico
Netherlands
New Zealand
Norway
Russia
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
United Kingdom
United States

Xbox One will not work in Malaysia

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/pre-ord...-one/disclaimer

wow, MS really shoot them self in the head. after comparing PS4 and X1, i'm very much leaning to purchase PS4 if all the statement made by both party is true.

so far all i see is X1 is inferior hardware with useless kinect and products that is more emphasis as media center than gaming machine.

NeoGaf sensationalism horse-poop at it's best.

It did not outright say IP blocking.
It like now XBL not official in Msia yet still can use.

One key difference is there is 24-hr authentication

Well, Microsoft is implying that it's best to just wait for the Xbox One to launch in the specific region/country before trying.

Hmmm, dangerous if I get it and it refuses to work here.

http://i.imgur.com/tvXzEGE.png

I willing to be LYN guinea pig lol

Sibehtahan already looking at current gen console games.

microsoft racist

i think we malaysian will be waiting long long time for xbox one to official launch in malaysia.

If we really dying to get one, seems Sg is the most viable option now.

Nevertheless, I'll still keep my pre-order of X1 Day One Edition until there is no hope of playing the US X1 in Bolehland. Anyway, I'll still have my PS4 Launch Edition and KZ too!

why would one buy xbox1 ? LOL unless u r a fanboy of xbox..i thought xbox is a BIG failure

For me personally, most of the X1 content offered in US 1. doesn't interested me, 2. doesn't accessible/offered in Bolehland, ie TV, movie, music, etc. The reason I bought X1 is solely because of Forza 5 .

If I cant get it day one, I wont lose much since I still have F2, F3, F4, GT5, GT6, NFS, DiRT 1/2/3, GRiD 1/2, F1 2011/12 in either X360 & PS3. Just my personal intention of X1 here.

Note that X1 is not a bad machine as a overall content services provider. It still have those audience looking towards this as a ONE machine that rule the house . If in US is even better due to the content (TV, Movie, Music, etc) offered.

I believe if we wanna enjoy a complete gaming experience, we gotta get both PS4 and X1 eventually since both machine has its pros and cons.

This post has been edited by tbgreen: Jun 13 2013, 04:37 PM

Complete gaming no Nintendo? Mana boleh.

Get 'em all.

Better question to ask: Which one you would pay for MP?

THIS!

Anyway, like what the MS execs say if you don't want to go online (or implying if you don't like the restrictions), you can always fall back to their Xbox360

No offend to Nintendo fans but I gotta admit that I am already over the age to enjoy Nintendo since long long long time ago

But I still believe as a true gamer (I am merely part timer ), they should really get Nintendo, PS and Xbox in order to enjoy the complete gaming experience. But just not for my age

This post has been edited by tbgreen: Jun 13 2013, 04:44 PM

This is truly a tricky part that not being answered directly by M$. Hope some light from someone soon regarding the IP thing.

This post has been edited by tbgreen: Jun 13 2013, 04:50 PM

To be honest how is that 24 hour login an issue?

It's not like MS will invalidate your entire XB1 game collection and force you rebuy back all the license when you forgot to login within the 24 hour 'grace' period.


For Msia the most important question is not "if Unifi down how!?" but rather
"if RM : USD RM3.80 how!?"


Steam library also cannot access if didn't login to logout. Orang tak mogok coz Steam give back with steam sales. Hopefully when XB1/PS4 goes pure digital route, the publishers are more inclined to mark down their digital offerings as deep like steam sales.


The Sony "no DRM" statement is pure PR play IMHO. It's lile Najib buat press statement orang tak perjaya, tapi Jack Tretton buat statement its like the gospel of the gods.


6 months from now we will be looking back and realize everybody is just over-reacting. Also 6 month from now takde game to main untuk Wii U...

The 24-hour authentication IS an issue because it won't work in Malaysia.

It's not that XB1 will "invalidate" your games,
it just won't validate them at all in the first place because you're trying to use them from an invalid region.

This is what the twitter exchange here suggests
http://i.imgur.com/5ATLlWV.png

This post has been edited by nub: Jun 13 2013, 07:10 PM

well, can proxy server auth?

Eh you are reading waaay too much into one twitter post leh

i believe it could be true as microsuck is very strict on the region it selling the xbox one console which they advise gamer to wait for the region release of the xbox one to play their games.

there is always a last resort VPN thinggy

as the news stated ~ malaysian is not included

just a dream if u want to get the xbox one

It is an issue. And this is coming from someone who is blessed with Unifi in a highly urban area like Subang Jaya with a decent PC to boot, plus a smart phone with data plan. Even with Unifi, it DOES go down once in a while. A minor inconvenience yes, but you won't feel the negative of the 24 hr login issue unless you encounter a situation like:-
1) You played Forza 5 last night. Managed to unlocked the Mclaren. Since it is bed time you shut off your Xbox one and go to bed
2) The next day you did a little overtime and return back later than usual. It is Friday night, and you want to race in your just unlocked Mclaren.
3) But then you realized that there is no internet connection, which means.....
4) .. you cannot authenticate your Forza 5 with Microsoft servers since the late time you game, which is last night.
5) ...so you try to connect using using your smartphone, because you have a smartphone with data plan.
6) ... but then realized M$ decided to make you download a huge ass patch to update the Xbone before you can game (speaking from experience with Games for Windows Live)
7) ... but your data plan while is has 3GB or unlimited data cap it is not as fast as broadband
8) ... so unable to login and play with your just unlocked Mclaren you wish you bought a PS4 or any other device which has non-restrictive DRM.

Sony has made a pretty bold statement with its no DRM stance. I am not a Sony fanboy, but if Sony decided to backtrack on their statements you can expect a huge backlash to them.

Sony just kinda backtracked with its DRM stance by saying it all depends on the 3rd party which is the games publisher. Hmm.....all this is too complicated la. Why must they do all this? Let us all enjoy playing video games please....

Ini hypothetical situation tahap dewa yo lol
Satu malam internet tak boleh connect tak main video game tak akan mati punya.

If WoW addicts could survive Tuesday nights not playing everybody else should be fine

Hi guys, seems the support exec in M$ has gone wild & crazy, see it yourself : https://twitter.com/XboxSupport2/status/344943376841465856


This post has been edited by tbgreen: Jun 14 2013, 10:02 AM

This is the relevant exchange



bloody hell, they really plan to restrict our game's activation by IP?

i guess it has something to do about the cloud server thingy which only the support region can used it with their xbox one.

Yo like that's from a twitter account not from MS official statement.

The internet (Neogaf especially) just love to over-react and dogpile on what the favorite hatred of the week.

kekekekekekkee......

Qudeenz agreed.. Hahaha.

Just delete xbox forum for malaysian & we move ramai2 to PS4 forum..

or mention "x360 discussion only"

xbox1 takda kat mlysia.. kekekekeke

Are you suggesting that we shouldn't take Xbox Support seriously ?

one day tak race won't die one lar. can always play something on your PC or other consoles.

but personally, i think 360's replacement won't work in Malaysia as we cannot authenticate. Even after it launches in SG. Remember how we were IP blocked from some of the gears of war content back in the day? Meh.

You shouldn't take ANYTHING from a twitter account seriously till the an official press statement was issued....

http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/14/4429218/...orted-countries

The Verge did contact MS for this...

No, it won't

This post has been edited by PS3.Gamer: Jun 14 2013, 06:41 PM

Malaysia isnt even in the "Xbox One-Supported Xbox Live Countries"
Source

But it's an OFFICIAL Xbox Support twitter account.

trust me... xbox 1 will be major success over playstation

Sometimes I wonder why need to reconfigure ip, do proxy, etc etc just to make sure can play an Xbox. With ps3 or ps4 can truly just plug and play.

This is one key difference between m$ which is primarily a software company that tells u that u don't own the things u buy but only the license to use it vs Sony which is a primarily hardware company that doesn't deal with stuff like this.

I recently took out my 360 and connect it to the large 60" TV in my living room. Just connect power, connect to TV, connect controller, put in disk and even without a HDD can start playing a bit of PGR3 and Fifa World Cup Germany 2006.

Then today bought the VGA cable adapter (not the official one, since the official one hard to find plus very expensive) and connect to my pc monitor and can still play!

No internet connection. No hard disk since my HDD kaput. But still can play. I think this is the benefit of buying a console compared to a pc; you can game as and when you feel like it.

This is the reason I kept my Xbox 1 and 360 unmodded, I do not want a bricked console plus I want it to function properly and enjoy the benefits of being ori. Atleast I do not have to worry about getting banhammer if I decide to update the firmware for example.

Latest Microsoft scandal : They got caught using W7 PC when demoing supposedly Xbox One games at E3. Unbelievable. Hehe

People are actually ok IF they ued a similar spec.

But hell those PC are using HP's nVidia machines and not even W8!

pwned.....

Yup true. This is totally unacceptable la. This means what? They still havent finish making the console? How dare they deceive us gamers. Hehe

I read the news about this and its actually just normal practice. Of course how different parties take it can be vary and some may not appreciate the deception, while I can only imagine how AMD must feel when they heard this

If we can't get into XBLA, don't you think that it will affect the dreaded online check as well ?

We don't mind if they use something else for demo purposes but at least "A similar spec" shud be honoured, right?

I honestly don't think there will be *major* impact.
Its just that we will be restricted to some XBLA content if it wasn't released for our region.

As of now only Capcom & MS practices region locking for XBLA content (RE4 wasn't available for SG marketplace for some time etc)


Whether we can use our SG GT (I assume most Msia 360 players registered under SG) on Xbone on Day 1 remains to be seen.


Thinking about it for the past few days, I think its wiser to wait for both Xbone and PS4 to official launch in our region before making a purchase.

Looking at the 2 pillar titles for these system (Destiny and TitanFall), I highly doubt we will enjoy a playable latency if the 'cloud' servers were not located in APAC.

If the "Family Share" thing works as what Major Nelson said (its definitely going to be publisher restricted) I would hope to form a circlejerk of XBone "family" members to share games, boleh jimat duit to go cheong yo.

Only if it doesnt turn out to be another Aliens Colonial Marines fiasco.

Or if they use higher and better hardware since Nvidia has been touting that their best cards will be at least 4x faster than the upcoming next-gen.

the "family members share"? here how it works according to major nelson.

- only one gamer can play at a given time.
- if you share let say with 3 gamers, they CAN NOT play the games simultaneously.

this feature i think works best for Single player games.

If can get 3-4 dedicated people to buy 1 title EACH every month and share among said 3-4 people only, its like buying new games for 25% of the list price.


... I think my math failed somewhere.

It works best with Friends you know, so you can save more on title that's more towards Single Player

family xbox one

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in 2015 though...thats a very long time in waiting....

So today Kotaku reported somebody @ Gaf datamined Steam and found out "GameSharing Libray" in the client. XBone is not the special one.


My 2 cents/conspiracy theory:

"GameSharing" is not platform control but publisher control.
The degree of the game's content that can be shared will vary from publisher.

From business POV, it makes no sense that JRPG publishers will allow full sharing because to them it will be a loss revenue.

For MP focus games, the shared account will only be allowed to advanced to a certain level cap, to 'unlock' further he must buy the full game.

To not abuse "game library", the primary user must login every 24 hours to re-validate the licenses. Failure to do so will render the shared account to not have access to the library. This deterrent was establish to mitigate abuse of the shared library with no impact to the primary user.




TLDR:

Our wet-dream of getting 10 LYN people to share purchases might not be able to come true.

Pbbseller/LY seller profit margin maintain kekal & kuat into the next-gen!

Sekian terima kasih.

YESSSSS...

XBOX 1 will not implent online drm and lock sharing games anymore:)

Congratulations XBoners. Welcome back to the land of used games, region-less locking, and offline gaming

Let's continue to co-exist happily

war console...

kita yang untung...

that's great, will the Xbox work here now

Agree. End of the day all of us are gamers

While we can fight & taunt each other online in games or cyberspace, ultimately we must stick with each other when it comes to gaming

So we are losing the ability to share games now? 1 Gold Live for whole Family? Disc Based games need disc to be in tray for authentication? Online Pass coming back? what about renting/resell policy?

It kinda suck now, everything goes back to stone age (like xbox360 other than no region lock, GT Lock like PS3?) no more Premium Console.

This post has been edited by IccyAsd: Jun 20 2013, 10:47 AM

Hopefully down the road sharing comes back.

See how Steam does it than maybe MS/Sony will copy the process.

I don't see what the difficulty keeping is in keeping the status quo for sharing and renting games. If you're done with a game, give the disc to your friend/sibling/whatever. As long as you have a disc you can play. You will still need mandatory installs but that's cool - i believe it's going to be play while you install. If you don't want to give the disc to your friend, they can buy the "license" to play the digital copy that's on their HDD.

For Digital Download, as long as you log in with your GT you can play on any console. Of course the same ownership rights as current will still apply which is totally fair. As the consumer, what matters is the choice to choose between the media. For me, unless it's on sale, I'll not bother with a "license". Online passes have always been up to the publisher and there have been so many current games which do not require online passes for multi-player.

By stone age - meaning consumer still has rights as long as they have disc? That's not suckage - that's awesome in my books.

The only good thing about steam is the sales.

Otherwise, you're stuck with one game identity, one copy. Which is the worst DRM inplementation of the current generation

Granted steam can allow publishers to slash the price kaokao 'cause they don't have to play nice with retailers. MS/Sony/Nintendo still rely heavily on physical retail.


Seeing MS back peddling on their DRM stance shows that society is still not ready to accept full digital.


I was really looking forward to game sharing, at least now can import Xbone and play without the hassle of region lock.


Last time before X360 launch @ SG ada orang kasi import ar?

I understand what you mean but we are now a step backwards, My meaning of stone age is we have lost the new Digital age (Like Steam) Now we just got an upgrade of Kinect + Graphic card on our Xbox360 with facelift that cost $499 = Around RM1600++?

Don't get me wrong ill still buy Xbox One, its just that the console is no more a Premium Console

This post has been edited by IccyAsd: Jun 20 2013, 02:01 PM

I've mentioned before on these forums, I've chosen the 360 over steam this generation because i didn't like the idea of having my games tied to one digital identity. This already made sharing my steam games with my real family illegal and in breach of their own drm policies. Most of my media is physical except where i can't avoid it (sales/xbla). The only reason why we put up with steam crap is because it is sometimes so, so cheap.

I don't think they're changing their plans for simultaneous releases for physical and digital so you will be able to download any game you want digitally. From that announcement, they don't seem to be changing their rules on that, so for every download, the digital download will still be digitally signed to your gamertag and the first console it's downloaded on.

The convenience of not disc swapping is still there, and if you really want to, you can loan out your gamertag to another xbox if you want to "share" your digital copies - just like steam. The convenience of console is still going to be there - ie no need to worry about compatibility/drivers/specs. No convenience of being able to share with 10 family members - but this was never going to mean having all 10 gamertags gaming at the same time - in exchange for giving up the right to actually own something.

edit: also, my take on this is that MS backpedaled based on projections for pre-orders. For this generation no one is going to pay for both ps+ and xboxlive gold seeing how they're both required for multiplayer. By losing too much ground to sony at the start, and therefore the multiplayer community, they would have put themselves at a permanent disadvantage from which they would never recover.

This post has been edited by Kidicarus: Jun 20 2013, 04:10 PM

To those who didn't realize the news,
From now on XBOne will be region free, no mandate online check & your game disc is now no restriction on trading.

My only hope is the storing of the game image to cloud is still applicable..... so I can bring the library everywhere with me..... without the physical disc....

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update

Now let hope by region free means what it means, for digital as well as DLC.

How soon can we expect the Xbone to be sold in Malaysia? And what is the expected price?

how soon? you mean asia version? i think sep next year. playasia have asia version that estimate release sep 2014

Some stores will be stocking import versions earlier right?

Otherwise 1 whole year to wait

Just get it off Amazon hehe

Why so complicated? In this day and age where the world is so connected, Microsoft is still treating the world as if only the weat have Internet and had gamers. They don't care of emerging markets. It is on
Y focused in big fat US of A.

Azure server (Cloud) is not available here, this is why they are not ready to have a worldwide launch...

Will this affect our latency on Xbox one games that uses the cloud?