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Frequently Asked Question on what kind of bikes to get:

1) Aluminum bike - 10 speed Tiagra (maybe mixed Tiagra - Sora), priced around RM3k up- this would be the absolute lowest point i would say to start from... any lower and you will land outside of 10speed equipment and any upgrades will certainly be more than the difference you saved not buying this bike.. shimano launched tiagra with 10speed beginning of this year making this a considerable choice... also, this grade of bike will have a more common grade of cockpit (handlebar, stem, seat post, saddle) and cheaper wheels

2) Aluminum bike - 10 speed 105 (maybe mixed 105 - Tiagra), priced around RM3.8k up- most likely the same frame above with a different paint livery, this would be an entry level into shimano's definition of competition components... tiagra would be what they called the top tier among the enthusiast group.. although both 10 speed... but materials and feel... tiagra has a shift indicator while the 105 does not hence giving you a pro feel (what the bike shop will tell you)...mostly.. tiagra has a bit more plasticky bits than 105... some slightly more expensive models might even start offering slightly better wheels like mavic aksiums along with better slightly better graded cockpit...

- i would not try and go past 105 on a aluminum bike... the best brands like specialized or bmc will be selling an aluminum bike equipped with 105 for a little over RM5k... going 1 notch up into ultegra will lead you to start looking into higher end bikes as those bikes will surely creep past RM6k and most likely a mismatch between frame and component grades... you will be practically trying to pair a set of RAYS CE28N onto a Perodua Myvi if you get what i mean in car terms...

3) Carbon bike - 10 speed 105 (possibly not full 105), priced around RM7k up- this would be a foray into performance bicycles... although a carbon frame... but this are not the best carbon has to offer for 2 reasons... carbon cloth grade (less modulus, less weave, lower grade binding agents) and the man power / time needed (less complex layup schedules) to layup the carbon layers into producing a frame... basically a mass produced frame with the lowest production cost possible... not all that bad... it should still be on par if not better with the best of the aluminum frames in terms of stiffness.. basically, component should be similar or slightly better than the aluminum 105 bike depending on the price you pay...

- here i would name one which shocked me quite a bit recently... saw this Look 566...this http://www.lookcycle.com/en/int/route/velo...-bike-2013.html , but i guess a previous year model...... carbon frame with Mavic Aksium wheels... not a complete 105 with some downgraded cranks and calipers... a carbon frame with comfort geometry retailing for RM7.1k if my memory serves me right...

- price is slightly high for some people... but if you look at it...maybe under 30% more if you are looking at a Apex or 105 equipped Specialize Allez

4) free for all - death - bankruptcy - you name it...
- step into this and there will be no return...

Beside on the modern roadbike, there's also classic roadbike that worth to consider, if you're classic roadbike lover.

at best, this is considered a classic remake...


with columbus tubing at least... if there is any chance that anyone still makes a bike with reynolds 531 tubing, even better...

it has to be small round tubes and lugged in order to qualify as classic...



"i guess that is the definition." by YB Butthead.


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YES!!!

first

yeah second

hope you all have good discussion on the wheelsets....

rules are rules, once hit 2,500 posts have to move new house.

i dont think i wanna upgrade my wheelsets liao after reading all these comments. "***run-crying***"

if you want test ur new wheelsets efficiency, aerodynamic, cut wind or not, loud sound when standing climb or not and etc etc, challenges are welcome to beat golden rim and spoke stock X1 wheelsets.

haha...

NO, THANKS DUDE!!!

F-dat

juz call jami bike center....his best price for reynols assault is rm3800...tats a bomb if compare to ksh at only 2900

check with godzilla. give him a call

godzilla is scary...i would not want to call him...

does it even have a cell phone?

This post has been edited by butthead: Jun 6 2013, 11:37 AM

later i call him kena scold.......

i think godzilla will stomp you more than scold...

juz call him....no stock for assault

dauphine stage 4 TT...

was in the midst of replying minizan and got a message saying thread locked ... that was fast ...

@minizan

I wasn't planning in getting anything fancy from greg/twe. Just something more reliable than my current wheelset. He recommended dt swiss spokes with alu clincher, which came up to slightly less than aud 800. Too expensive for my taste so got something from pro-lite instead which was half the price. Maybe when I get fancier bike like carbon/titanium which i don't use for commuting I'll think of getting something from twe

sorry... i like cosplay a lot... but this is bringing it a bit too far...

maybe lil might have the hots for this...

800AUD??? that is velocity pricing already...

commuting use some cheap wheels better lar... if you want, spend on a pair of race wheels and get an additional cassette and tires to go with it lar...

i think better that way in your situation...

ultraman with built-in HRM. blinking red already.