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post Jun 24 2006, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Jun 23 2006, 10:45 PM)
so even though i get higher amp comp set also will not harm my HU?

Sure? what about the voltage drain from the battery?

Is DLS R6A good enough for a entry level newbie like me?

what good to pair with DLS R6A ?

budget wise...emm...total whole COmp set +AMp+ RCA +Woofer 8" +woofe enclose + Labour =rm 1.5k can make it? dont think so right tongue.gif

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never mind...working time also thinking of DLS gosh...~~driftmeister really poison me kau kau~ hehe

what About A/D/S series dono iz 236is series (correct me if im wrong) no body can TT to show me..so i keep asking the brand and the quality.. bad on me.

i'm more on SQ i think.

just only 1 think need to clarify...comp set with higher power rating will it harm my HU only. who can slove this prob? thanks alot everyone.
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mnkh27 has 236i with him
u can enquire about the comp set
but need a matching amp to pull out the full potential of it
if not it wont sound as good

DLS is not so choosy
it can match with almost all decent amp

1.5k for all this? rclxub.gif u very greedy leh
step by step ler..

comp set 1st..then get a good amp..
sub and sub amp think later thumbup.gif
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post Jun 25 2006, 12:40 AM

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haha maybe im too greedy hehe 2day after work went to SS1 to get information on the comp set n hope they have the comp set on demo.

who know they have demo set for Alpine. (Y so many shop all also demo alpine Comp and Amp??= really tat good?? )

Would like to know Alpine , ads,dls and focal more in SQ?

any idea on Alpine Type S and Type R series?

iz good? demo 2day ..seems not bad..


type S- rm 650 ==> abit blue color on the comp set

type R- rm700 ==> abit red colour on the comp set

DLS R6A- rm840 ==> the tweeter seems funny to me. wonder how good is iz. And he mention DLS have different sound quality compare to alpine. mostly plays SQ quality. Can driftmeister tell me more in this. thanks

Focal 165a- 880 ==> Sales manager told me..." no need to think" i cant get him what he's trying to say...but he said 100% cannot boom.!

MTX - 8xx forgotten ==> sound very low...(alpine clearer)

hehe

JBL....they dont have ...only woofer
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Option 1--> Alpine Type R 50W pair with 50Wx4 HU
Option 2-->DLS R6A 70W? can pair with 50Wx4 HU? worth of getting?

[ will my HU efficient to produce more umph to drive the 70W DLS (driftmeister can u tell me DLS R6A iz 70W) ] rclxub.gif
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The shop boss suggest me to get sound proof..for 2 front doors...rm350 is like aluminium ones...thicker surface....iz neccessary to get it at the moment?

Bare in mind, im driving FISH only. Good of getting such a good comp set? hmm....

ohh btw...How alpine AMp as well? he quoted me 4 channel amp for rm950 cant take down the series....sorry...any feedback on this.?

thanks alot siii fuu....smile.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by terencetoo: Jun 25 2006, 12:42 AM
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post Jun 25 2006, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Jun 25 2006, 12:40 AM)
haha maybe im too greedy hehe 2day after work went to SS1 to get information on the comp set n hope they have the comp set on demo.

who know they have demo set for Alpine. (Y so many shop all also demo alpine Comp and Amp??= really tat good?? )

Would like to know Alpine , ads,dls and focal more in SQ?

any idea on Alpine Type S and Type R series?

iz good? demo 2day ..seems not bad..
type S- rm 650 ==> abit blue color on the comp set

type R- rm700 ==> abit red colour on the comp set

DLS R6A- rm840 ==> the tweeter seems funny to me. wonder how good is iz. And he mention DLS have different sound quality compare to alpine. mostly plays SQ quality. Can driftmeister tell me more in this. thanks

Focal 165a- 880 ==> Sales manager told me..." no need to think" i cant get him what he's trying to say...but he said 100%  cannot boom.!

MTX - 8xx forgotten ==> sound very low...(alpine clearer)

hehe

JBL....they dont have ...only woofer
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Option 1--> Alpine Type R 50W pair with 50Wx4 HU
Option 2-->DLS R6A 70W? can pair with 50Wx4 HU? worth of getting?

[ will my HU efficient to produce more umph to drive the 70W DLS (driftmeister can u tell me DLS R6A iz 70W) ] rclxub.gif
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The shop boss suggest me to get sound proof..for 2 front doors...rm350 is like aluminium ones...thicker surface....iz neccessary to get it at the moment?

Bare in mind, im driving FISH only. Good of getting such a good comp set? hmm....

ohh btw...How alpine AMp as well? he quoted me 4 channel amp for rm950 cant take down the series....sorry...any feedback on this.?

thanks alot siii fuu....smile.gif thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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For playing SQ...Please forget JBL & MTX... whistling.gif
Focal ...I don't like the sound... doh.gif
Alpine ... Multi performance
DSL ... Good vocal... thumbup.gif

DLS R6A spec as below :-
Speaker type : 2-way system
Woofer size : 16,5 cm (6,5")
Power handling capacity : 80 W RMS / 120 W max
Tweeter : 25 mm (1") tweeter
Sensitivity : 94 dB (1W/1m)
Magnet size : 100 mm (3,94")
Outer diameter of woofer : 165 mm (6,5")
Installation depth : 76 mm ( 3")
Mounting hole : 140 mm (5,5")
Crossover : Box filter LP: 6 dB & HP: 12 dB slope

Even ur HU is 4X50 W but when u have amp.. ur output should more than 50W.
So better take high W one loh...
Sound proof is the last thing u do...1st thing to do is built up ur ICE 1st la...
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post Jun 25 2006, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Jun 25 2006, 12:40 AM)
haha maybe im too greedy hehe 2day after work went to SS1 to get information on the comp set n hope they have the comp set on demo.

who know they have demo set for Alpine. (Y so many shop all also demo alpine Comp and Amp??= really tat good?? )

Would like to know Alpine , ads,dls and focal more in SQ?

any idea on Alpine Type S and Type R series?

iz good? demo 2day ..seems not bad..
type S- rm 650 ==> abit blue color on the comp set

type R- rm700 ==> abit red colour on the comp set

DLS R6A- rm840 ==> the tweeter seems funny to me. wonder how good is iz. And he mention DLS have different sound quality compare to alpine. mostly plays SQ quality. Can driftmeister tell me more in this. thanks

Focal 165a- 880 ==> Sales manager told me..." no need to think" i cant get him what he's trying to say...but he said 100%  cannot boom.!

MTX - 8xx forgotten ==> sound very low...(alpine clearer)

hehe

JBL....they dont have ...only woofer
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Option 1--> Alpine Type R 50W pair with 50Wx4 HU
Option 2-->DLS R6A 70W? can pair with 50Wx4 HU? worth of getting?

[ will my HU efficient to produce more umph to drive the 70W DLS (driftmeister can u tell me DLS R6A iz 70W) ] rclxub.gif
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The shop boss suggest me to get sound proof..for 2 front doors...rm350 is like aluminium ones...thicker surface....iz neccessary to get it at the moment?

Bare in mind, im driving FISH only. Good of getting such a good comp set? hmm....

ohh btw...How alpine AMp as well? he quoted me 4 channel amp for rm950 cant take down the series....sorry...any feedback on this.?

thanks alot siii fuu....smile.gif thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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yep...alpine, DLS, focal, a/d/s are more focus in SQ

no idea bout type R and type S..cos not much SQ icer using it.. but there's some using the type X (SPX-177r, SPX-177a which is OEM by Vifa) ..and it do sound good

R6A do looks funny for the tweeter and mid bass.. i can say it's midbass is nice (bear in mind i drive it wit amp..not by HU)..the tweeter also not bad... but for me it's a bit dry..need to do some EQ to make it sound more lively

about Focal 165a (Access) they sound very dry to me.. once i listen..(they're driven by Genesis Profile summore:sweat: ) mid bass not as attack as the higher range..tweeter seems to be very bright..

MTX..JBL...no experienced with them..cos no icer using rclxub.gif
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about ur HU powering up ur component set
dun worry..they will sound...and they won't harm each other
but they wont sound as good as they use to be

becos HU true power is just about 20-25w x 4 ...
but dun worry..u will notice the difference of stock and aftermarket eventhough it's power up by HU
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sound proofing... alright... since u're opening ur door panel for installation already
i suggest u do it 1 shot... so next time no need to open ur door again..(frequent open and close will cause some loosen of the door...my ex-car got water leaking problem summore rclxub.gif )
but i can get the u the sound proof around RM300 for both side of the door incl. installation

for the alpine amp.. i only have experience wit the old V12 series (pre F#1 series)
they sound good to me.. but the latest 1...i dun have any idea..
but i think i can look for mnkh27 see wat he can offer u..he carries a lot of nice stuff)

finally..happy ICE hunting

p/s: DLS got lotsa imitation..make sure u take down the serial number and call back to the distributor and ask for clarification... wink.gif )
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post Jun 25 2006, 12:08 PM

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@driftmeister

thanks bro ..thanks alot.

can u help me to contact mnkh27? since u know him well hehe

by the way driftmeister do u provide installation as well? or do u own a shop smile.gif

budget of 1.5k what comp set and amp can u get for me?

or.... if u can , try quoting me DLSR6A /type R/type s also can tongue.gif

amp just additional infromation for me will do.

thanks alot bro.

If too many things for u too do. U can drop down his number will do thanks alot
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post Jun 25 2006, 02:02 PM

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post Jun 25 2006, 03:57 PM

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sorry la terence
i dun own a shop
neither do mnkh27 (but he carries some top notch quality audiophiles equipments which is cheaper than normal price..some are even not available in malaysia market)

but i can recommend my usual installer to u for installation la
hehehe

about equipement pricing..i guess u can consult mnkh27 aka michael
i am just good in talk c0ck nia laugh.gif
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post Jun 25 2006, 04:59 PM

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so u decided on the shop near my house in ss1? how did they treat u dude?? hope its good.

for 1.5k mebbe u can get the type s and use the balance for the amp...
agako and prokick make good cheap amps...but bear in mind...these are spl brands brows.gif i got my prokick 4ch at around 500 at a shop in uptown... can do this if ur not patient enough la...but if ur patient..id say blow the 1.5k on comp sets only biggrin.gif

if u ever wanna audition the type s with the prokick drop me a pm... bring ur own CDs and well test them out...when im free to help u out ill try(been very bz these past few weeks...today sunday oso im in the office cry.gif)

only thing u need to keep in mind when auditioning is that my setup is tuned to metal..and i mean screaming metal not some sq thingy. me like boom boom icon_idea.gif

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post Jun 25 2006, 05:29 PM

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I use Agako before... but not satisfly me on SQ...
It not suitable SQ at all...
I think prokick also not suitable for SQ...
If you really like SQ.. I think agako & prokick waste your $...
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ohh u stay near ss1 good~ the service at the shop not bad. The guy called Mr.Tee Sales manager hehe...

bro in the first place y dont u get the Alpine Type-R? look pretty nice for the design. 50W is sufficient enough?

but others...like amp..phew..all rm1k.. mostly he recommanded Alpine amp also ...he said 1 set orr haha.

Uptown? u mean CV shop..hmm..i;m still thinking car accessories at uptown alwiz overprice coz of the location. iz?
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where is yor usual installer ? pj or kl?
Ohh " mnkh27 carries some top notch quality audiophiles equipments which is cheaper than normal price..some are even not available in malaysia market)" so mostly all also exp ones? although cheaper then market price..so i assume at least rm 1k for amps and comps? hehe

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Pm u already. Cheers

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@loon1031

since u said agako and prokick not suitable for SQ, so what amp u using tat suits for SQ bro mind intro some for me? so i can learn more and poison more in ICEYY~

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Pics where accessories shop held.

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Uptown Area.

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Taman bahagia LRt station...nearby... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Jun 25 2006, 07:17 PM)
@mADmAN

ohh u stay near ss1 good~ the service at the shop not bad. The guy called Mr.Toe Sales manager hehe...

bro in the first place y dont u get the Alpine Type-R? look pretty nice for the design. 50W is sufficient enough?

but others...like amp..phew..all rm1k.. mostly he recommanded Alpine amp also ...he said 1 set orr haha.

Uptown? u mean CV shop..hmm..i;m still thinking car accessories at uptown alwiz overprice coz of the location. iz?
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wanted to get the type-r but the damn thing didnt wanna fit into my door panel without cutting the side cover.... so i settled for the type-s instead.

the prokick i got at kk audio in uptown....not cv..... kk audio got 2 branches in uptown one... i got from the one furthest away from the hawker centre...forgot opposite what bank already...
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eii bro type R canot fit meh?

the size is the same as the type S right..gosh i dont 1 2 cut the door pannel..if next time i 1 2 trade in to perodua car shop canot get though. tongue.gif

type R really awesome especially the design n the colour.

U sure the size canot fit with added rack ? dono call what is tat
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its called a baffle....and yeah...pretty sure..i think the magnet size must be slightly different....

i was there when the feller tried installing into my car...so many tries and had to make so many baffles until in the end he gave up...
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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Jun 25 2006, 07:17 PM)
@driftmeister

where is yor usual installer ? pj or kl?
Ohh " mnkh27 carries some top notch quality audiophiles equipments which is cheaper than normal price..some are even not available in malaysia market)" so mostly all also exp ones? although cheaper then market price..so i assume at least rm 1k for amps and comps? hehe
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pj area..kelana jaya there
why not pay a bit more for better stuff and do it 1 shot so u dun hav to worry that u need to upgrade again when ur wallet permits to..
right?
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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Jun 25 2006, 07:17 PM)

@loon1031

since u said agako and prokick not suitable for SQ, so what amp u using tat suits for SQ bro mind intro some for me? so i can learn more and poison more in  ICEYY~

Agako and Prokick more on SPL...and both brand are brother amp (same company mah)

For me RM1K ar for SQ amp ar... sweat.gif
Quite hard to find le...

You better ask driftmeister, because I not sure the SQ amp about RM1k in Kl....

I try be this SQ stuff below b4
Helix Dark Blue 4 ,Helix Dark Blue 2 & Steg QM120.2.
Quite good & suitable for beginner...but I not sure the price in KL le.. laugh.gif

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post Jun 26 2006, 09:40 AM

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http://www.mycarhifi.com/carhififorum/viewtopic.php?t=1554

grab this !!! very nice comp set..beat type S and R hands down !
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post Jun 26 2006, 03:34 PM

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wah! CV kena table! hahahah...

long time didnt login, looks like our fishy brother made up his mind...

terencee...

not necessary u drive an expensive car then only you must have good stuff mah... hehe... the quest for perfection never ends, no matter what car you drive, unless its a lexus, the new legacy...
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the comp set iz high ended ones? how much is the retail price for this baby? btw the way look at his message

"Selling on behave of a fren which upgraded. In very good condition...just the installation scrathes which is unavoidable...crossover in mint condition as well. No box, no speaker grill though"

no speakers grill??? ususally Alpine have s cool speaker grill right? even type S and type R also have it but is not full cover.

u think this comp set very good?

thanks bro for the infor man..

mind tell me how good is the set? rclxub.gif

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post Jun 26 2006, 10:38 PM

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This set is at least 3 years old?

One of the better components from Alpine. Vifas? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

I tried this set before, very neutral and sounds lovely on guitar, and typical of Vifas.. The vocals somehow a little muffled.. Giving the fella abit of human feel... And you have the crossover to fool around! Make sure you download and read the manual first. If not burn kau your crossover... Not in production more this set.. No need speaker grill. Once the 6.5 is fitted into the original mount, you can cover back with the door panel. If the your installer have trouble fitting it in, I snap a pix and send to you.

BTW, Which Type R you guys are talking about? The 17LS or the 176A? If the baffle you guys talking about is the ring to mount the drivers then I find it strange they cant fit it. I had tried fitting in 176A, 13M and now 17T woofer. Hmmm... About cutting da door panel.. Heheh, sikit sikit have to sacrifice loh...

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post Jun 26 2006, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Jun 26 2006, 08:26 PM)
@Driftmeister

the comp set iz high ended ones? how much is the retail price for this baby? btw the way  look at his message

"Selling on behave of a fren which upgraded. In very good condition...just the installation scrathes which is unavoidable...crossover in mint condition as well. No box, no speaker grill though"

no speakers grill??? ususally Alpine have s cool speaker grill right? even type S and type R also have it but is not full cover.

u think this comp set very good?

thanks bro for the infor man..

mind tell me how good is the set? rclxub.gif

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Type X is way above Type R and Type S
no fight (IMHO)
it's OEM by Vifa (www.tymphany.com)
was retail at RM1300 last time when i ask for it
it sounds very neutral ... i like it to play instrument very much
most play track when i am on my frens car which has this sets is Hotel California
dam nice kicking bass man thumbup.gif (again...driven by amp sweat.gif )


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