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post Aug 1 2013, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Aug 1 2013, 10:23 PM)
huh. you also ordered the 2933c12 kit? Heard something wrong with their last shipment. Misplaced?
FYI, we have one newegg MY staff here in LYN. Keatsan. Perhaps you could give him a PM/call for clarification.

I just bought the same kit few days ago on 30/7 and they were going to place order on 31/7.
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Yes,I paid on 05. July (Invoice 1045)...... blush.gif
I spoke with them last week,they apologize...bla,bla......and told me 2nd week of August for sure. shakehead.gif

Edit:
You paid less then me......I paid RM1,312.60.....on line by cash rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(stasio @ Aug 1 2013, 10:44 PM)
Yes,I paid on 05. July (Invoice 1045)...... blush.gif 
I spoke with them last week,they apologize...bla,bla......and told me 2nd week of August for sure.  shakehead.gif

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You paid less then me......I paid RM1,312.60.....on line by cash rclxub.gif
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Mine was quoted USD rate of 3.2. Now is 3.3 gg
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post Aug 1 2013, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Aug 1 2013, 11:00 PM)
Mine was quoted USD rate of 3.2. Now is 3.3 gg
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My g.......they charge me same rate..........and I didn't check well.... doh.gif vmad.gif
Should be same as you. nod.gif
Sending mail just now.............. vmad.gif

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They charge me VAT in quotation........ vmad.gif

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post Aug 1 2013, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(stasio @ Aug 1 2013, 11:12 PM)
My g.......they charge me same rate..........and I didn't check well....  doh.gif vmad.gif
Should be same as you.  nod.gif
Sending mail just now.............. vmad.gif

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They charge me VAT in quotation........ vmad.gif

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If the item is not listed in newegg business then you should be charged VAT.
Maybe that time it was not listed there yet.
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Prod...m=9B-20-231-683
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Aug 1 2013, 11:20 PM)
If the item is not listed in newegg business then you should be charged VAT.
Maybe that time it was not listed there yet.
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Prod...m=9B-20-231-683
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Yea,I think you are right...... sweat.gif
That time,I ordered has not been on newegg business....... nod.gif
Huh...... rolleyes.gif

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seems I am not alone.......
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2225381/+700

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which i5-4670k batch has the best oc ability?
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QUOTE(aladdin @ Aug 3 2013, 03:30 AM)
which i5-4670k batch has the best oc ability?
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Batch doesn't matter bro because two CPUs from the same batch will not have the same performance.
It is unique and hard to tell which one is a good or bad chip. smile.gif
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Batch doesn't matter bro because two CPUs from the same batch will not have the same performance.
It is unique and hard to tell which one is a good or bad chip.  smile.gif
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Im getting a i5-4670k in the next couple of weeks. Any ideas which batch should I get?

Also, I read some article saying that H87/H81/B85 can OC K cpu..not sure it is true or not.
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QUOTE(aladdin @ Aug 3 2013, 08:53 AM)
Im getting a i5-4670k in the next couple of weeks. Any ideas which batch should I get?

Also, I read some article saying that H87/H81/B85 can OC K cpu..not sure it is true or not.
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It's all about draw of luck and lottery of silicone so just pick any batch will do. smile.gif

The non-Z board overclocking will be disabled by BIOS/windows update. If you can afford a K CPU, you should be able to afford a Z board as well. I know can save some bucks, but why choose to have the limitation. laugh.gif

Intel Cracks Down on Motherboard Vendors Offering Overclocking on non-Z Chipset

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Over the past couple of months, motherboard vendors from across the industry offered BIOS updates for their motherboards based on Intel B85 Express and H87 Express chipsets, which enable CPU overclocking for Intel's unlocked Core processors denoted by "K" brand extension (Core i7-4770K, i5-4670K). This reportedly hasn't gone down well with Intel. Intel's Bxx and Hxx chipsets are significantly cheaper than its Zxx series chipset. Sensing a clear threat to its revenue, from the prospect of motherboard vendors coming up with high-end or overclocking-ready (strong CPU VRM) motherboards based on cheaper chipsets in the near future, Intel cracked down on them.

Intel is giving final touches to a CPU microcode update that restricts Core "K" Haswell processors from overclocking on chipsets other than Z87 Express. A microcode update can be deployed both through BIOS updates, and surreptitiously through Windows Update. Intel's used the tried and tested "stability" bogey to justify the update. While it's true that motherboards based on B85 and H87 tend to feature weaker CPU VRM, there's nothing to say that ASUS wouldn't have gone on to design its next ROG Maximus on H87 Express, and save on manufacturing costs. While it's purely hypothetical, something like that wouldn't be in Intel's commercial interests. What next? Intel will push this new microcode update on to motherboard vendors, instructing them to issue BIOS updates with it; and future batches of Intel "K" CPUs may not support overclocking. If that isn't enough to contain the problem, Intel may give Microsoft a ring, and ask it to push the update through Windows Update. It tried that once in the past.

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Aug 3 2013, 09:14 AM)
It's all about draw of luck and lottery of silicone so just pick any batch will do.  smile.gif

The non-Z board overclocking will be disabled by BIOS/windows update. If you can afford a K CPU, you should be able to afford a Z board as well. I know can save some bucks, but why choose to have the limitation.  laugh.gif

Intel Cracks Down on Motherboard Vendors Offering Overclocking on non-Z Chipset
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Oh My God.. lucky not Using H87 tongue.gif
and thanks your guide on OC tools tongue.gif
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Impact will have C2 stepping chipset.

CFR @ 3337.8MHz 12-15-15

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Aug 3 2013, 05:25 PM)
Impact will have C2 stepping chipset.

CFR @ 3337.8MHz 12-15-15

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off turbo boost and clocking?
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Aug 3 2013, 05:25 PM)
Impact will have C2 stepping chipset.

CFR @ 3337.8MHz 12-15-15
Nice Owi, rclxms.gif
are you on 0403 BIOS?

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QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Aug 3 2013, 05:55 PM)
off turbo boost and clocking?
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Pls ignore my CPU core/uncore/GPU clocks when I'm overclocking the RAM. yawn.gif

QUOTE(stasio @ Aug 3 2013, 10:25 PM)
Nice Owi,  rclxms.gif
are you on 0403 BIOS?
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Nope, I'm on still 0401 smile.gif
I saw 0403 and 0039 were released yesterday rclxub.gif
I got 0038s for media only to be tested later today.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Aug 4 2013, 02:09 AM)
Pls ignore my CPU core/uncore/GPU clocks when I'm overclocking the RAM. yawn.gif
Nope, I'm on still 0401 smile.gif
I saw 0403 and 0039 were released yesterday  rclxub.gif
I got 0038s for media only to be tested later today.
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orh... Using G.Skill RipJawsX to OC ram? biggrin.gif
haha sorry my bad
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QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Aug 4 2013, 10:08 AM)
orh... Using G.Skill RipJawsX to OC ram? biggrin.gif
haha sorry my bad
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No. It is the CFR based G.Skill TridentX 2800 11-13-13 1.65v 2 X 4GB

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Excuse me guys, Im getting my MSI Z87 G45 next few days and going to play some game with my i5 4670k and test see if there any crash. If no I will going to OC.

I bought the CM Hyper 212X, the question is what is the safest clock for this? 4.4ghz? I watched this video and the tutorial quite easy, just the voltage a bit tricky.

Gskill RipjawsX (RED) 2x4GB DDR3 1866mhz 1.5v 9-10-9-28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mLP3pGvnDU

btw he did OC to 4.4ghz in his earlier video. This is my very first time oc. brows.gif

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QUOTE(yoyoman @ Aug 5 2013, 06:36 PM)
Excuse me guys, Im getting my MSI Z87 G45 next few days and going to play some game with my i5 4670k and test see if there any crash. If no I will going to OC.

I bought the CM Hyper 212X, the question is what is the safest clock for this? 4.4ghz? I watched this video and the tutorial quite easy, just the voltage a bit tricky.

Gskill RipjawsX (RED) 2x4GB DDR3 1866mhz 1.5v 9-10-9-28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mLP3pGvnDU

btw he did OC to 4.4ghz in his earlier video. This is my very first time oc. brows.gif
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get a better cooler.
btw that reviewer.. optimization, overclocking etc guide are a dumbass newbie guide thats fully wrong.

Hint check everybody and see me and owikh still running stock vccin... and heck i even lowered mine to 1.65v cause running vcore at 1.25v and maintaining a 0.4v difference.

stresstest that i bet all 95 percent ppl saying stable will fail

load in diagnostic mode in windows
load prime95 27.9
set to custom
change ure mem if (16gb mem... 14.5-15gb) (8gb mem 6.5-7gb)
change each fft to 120mins from 15mins

the first fft will test ure avx, cache mem, uncore, vcssa, dram timings. second fft is pure cpu..

ppl will fail the first fft easily. u just need 2 hours to test the first fft only. dont bother with the rest.

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QUOTE(yoyoman @ Aug 5 2013, 06:36 PM)
Excuse me guys, Im getting my MSI Z87 G45 next few days and going to play some game with my i5 4670k and test see if there any crash. If no I will going to OC.

I bought the CM Hyper 212X, the question is what is the safest clock for this? 4.4ghz? I watched this video and the tutorial quite easy, just the voltage a bit tricky.

Gskill RipjawsX (RED) 2x4GB DDR3 1866mhz 1.5v 9-10-9-28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mLP3pGvnDU

btw he did OC to 4.4ghz in his earlier video. This is my very first time oc. brows.gif
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Aug 5 2013, 07:37 PM)
get a better cooler.
btw that reviewer.. optimization, overclocking etc guide are a dumbass newbie guide thats fully wrong.

Hint check everybody and see me and owikh still running stock vccin... and heck i even lowered mine to 1.65v cause running vcore at 1.25v and maintaining a 0.4v difference.

stresstest that i bet all 95 percent ppl saying stable will fail

load in diagnostic mode in windows
load prime95 27.9
set to custom
change ure mem if (16gb mem... 14.5-15gb) (8gb mem 6.5-7gb)
change each fft to 120mins from 15mins

the first fft will test ure avx, cache mem, uncore, vcssa, dram timings. second fft is pure cpu..

ppl will fail the first fft easily. u just need 2 hours to test the first fft only. dont bother with the rest.
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Heyyy thanks man! Haha no money might do more research than! probably 4.0-4.2ghz for me thats all since my cooler budget.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Aug 3 2013, 09:14 AM)
It's all about draw of luck and lottery of silicone so just pick any batch will do.  smile.gif

The non-Z board overclocking will be disabled by BIOS/windows update. If you can afford a K CPU, you should be able to afford a Z board as well. I know can save some bucks, but why choose to have the limitation.  laugh.gif

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Hi all sifu, this is my first oc on 4570K and Asus Z87M-Plus and I've read many guides.

One of the guide on first post [OCers] 3 Step Guide to Overclock Your i7 / i5 Haswell Platform caught my attention on how to check whether the chip I have is on the upper end or the lower end of the Haswell bell curve. Quote from the author:-

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Now, I’ll share a secret imparted by the folks at ASUS who gave several reviewers some tips on overclocking the retail stepping Haswell chips: Set Vcore to 1.20 V. Set all cores to 46x (which would be a 4.6 GHz overclock), save & reboot. If the system boots past the UEFI and either begins to load or, ideally, makes it into the OS and is stable, you have a 50th percentile or greater chip on the Haswell overclocking-ability bell curve. If it won’t at least boot there and make it into the UEFI, you probably have less than a 50th percentile chip. You can expect chips in the lower 50th percentile to top out in the 4.4-4.5 GHz range at 1.25 V.

If your chip will boot at 4.6 GHz and 1.25 V, that’s very good. It means you have at least an average chip. If it will boot at 4.6 GHz and is stable there, then you may have an above average chip. The best chips will be able to do 4.8 GHz stable at 1.25 V. Our sample did 4.8 GHz, but at 1.3 V and on a custom water loop. Using 1.3 V will likely put a chip out of the air cooling / AIO water cooling thermal envelope. Temperatures in all of these scenarios, from the dog 4.3 GHz chips up to the good 4.8 GHz chips, will always be in the ~90°C range. That’s just the nature of Haswell. With the VRM on-die, think of Haswell as Ivy Bridge plus 10° C.



My Haswell cant boot past 4.3GHz on 1.25V manual. Heck it cant even boot past 4.2GHz when I set the voltage setting to adaptive or offset. My questions are:-

1) Does high performance RAM increase the oc capability of the CPU? I am using normal RAM only.
2) Does good cooler increase the oc capability of the CPU? I am using stock cooler.

Stick to 4.0GHz for now with stock cooler, 90C on full load. Well, for normal gaming my CPU just 60-70C so I might not want to invest on new cooler if my CPU cant go beyond 4.3GHz.

Thanks in advance for your advice.


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