IF I really do reserve to him, and he didn't accept then it was not in contract. Deal occur when both party agree & put seriously confirm the deal.

btw; I hope you read my log before commenting,

i agree that. reading all the post in few pages. i think problem lies on the buyer. ther eis nothing ti complaint about.



This post has been edited by scotty: May 3 2006, 12:09 AM

Honestly I think, if the seller don't really feel like he want to sell the item to the threadstarter because he is just to fussy, he should just tell him earlier. Cause before the other potential buyer step in by the 27th he should be alarmed well enough that dealing with the threadstarter might be bothersome for him (referring to post no 4,5 &8).

This is not to say that the threadstarter is right. Why? Because he himself warranted the termination of the deal by using this sentence ---> " If this thing become too complicated, just forget about it!" (May be he doesn't really mean it but you said it dude).

Lesson learned is both parties really should be carefull with their words since certain words might be interpreted differently by the other side.

guys pls dont be so harsh on either 1 of the party. we are trying to solve problem here.

I don't see the problem getting solved honestly. One party keeps on whinning that he didn't get his item, while the other keeps losing his cool (chill lar encore, we know how you feel, but keep yer cool man!)

If I were the seller, warning signs would have been shot. A lot of keywords used by the potential buyer that leads me to believe that he's not serious. Threadstarter said that he confirmed that he wanted to buy it, but I don't see him using strong affirmative words. Enquiring about the product does not show that you WILL DEFINITELY get the item, it merely shows interest, and by the way the threadstarter displays his "interest". I as the seller would be wary as well.

With no words of total conviction and such attitude (especially the "just forget it" part), it's understandable that encore would jump at the oppurtunity to sell the product to the other person.

However encore, it would have been mighty nice of you to inform him first. Though I totally understand your situation as he has been sending negative vibes since the start.

Usually I'm on the buyers side whenever such disputes occur, but for once, I feel compelled to say that this is one of the rare occasions when both parties should be blamed.

So encore, as fellow forumer, I'd suggest you just say sorry to the threadstarter (though you don't want to - show him ur more decent than him by not being vindictive). And threadstarter, just settle down, these things happen, I know you're anxious about the product, and it shows that you're a smart consumer. I myself ask a multitudes of questions before purchasing an item. But you have to becareful of the words used and how it is phrased. Some words can show different meaning than those intended. Though they say there is selling etiquette, I also believe that there's buying etiquette.

So chill ppl! Stop the flaming and start the loving

Although this cases still hang unresolved, I want to make apologies to abrsl if me or He causing this problem. I need his respect atleast due his provocation, thats why people tend to react aggressive for something that may displease. In this cases, he putting me down as FFK without consulting me 1st. I hope you can reconsider me to clean my rep back otherwise this case unresolved.

here you are mr abrsl
Our deal never meet satissfaction, I am sorry for our unsuccesfull deal due both party misunderstanding.



btw; that one was like Ghandi marquis

omg .....interested doesn't not mean will/shall buy but have to sort out problem ....................if your definition of interested is that narrow ........ everyone would be obligated to buy goods in retail shops .......

to my understanding, when a buyer says he is interested ..he is merely indicating that there is a possibility that he will buy the item

and by nagging him with all the extra PM's ....... i presume a reasonable person would think that you are not that interested but would still give u the benefit of the doubt .......HOWEVER....... since a better deal has come up with a much more straight forward, transparent and direct buyer has come up ......i would instantly think that the new buyer is much more interested in dealing with me .........thus selling him the item.......

my 2c

Haha I'm far from ghandi dude. I usually am the first to lambast someone. But I feel both parties gotta keep their cool here

I've said this before and I'll say it again. This is a help forum. By the users for the users. We should do our part by making this community a better place

So yeah. Forgive and let be. You've done your part by the appology, so it's best that we wait for the other party to come in and settle this matter. Not good to leave behind a thorn right?

Kudos for encore for his apology!

"The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the na�ve forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget." -Thomas Szasz-

I hope everyone can learn somethings as a buyer and as a seller from the dispute.
For a buyer, don't drag a deal if you are very keen to buy (to avoid unnecessary mishaps)
For a seller, don't simply offer "reserve" to the buyer as it may cause unnecessary hassle if the deal breaks down.

With this, encore's apology is accepted and the dispute is considered end!

Moderator please lock the topic. Thanks.

This post has been edited by abrls: May 4 2006, 11:45 PM

Jolly good! Good attitude and nice quote. Very true

Btw, do close this topic yeah?

It's located on the lower left corner under moderation options

Glad all ends well

imho, I think abrls was not being difficult. Instead, he was just being critical and scrutinizing things to the details.

We live in a diverse world with people of many characters.

Give and take. Accept and being accepted. That's how we survive life

Topic closed as per request