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post Jun 2 2013, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 2 2013, 10:30 PM)
How about Sales Charges? Similar or slightly higher than FSM? Saw at website they mentioned about "lower SCs"... hmm.gif

With Client Investment Specialists like Eugene and Felix, I'd rather go for FSM thumbup.gif
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Err.. I have no idea on the sales charge lei. Just ikan bilis, cannot engage a financial consultant company to manage my monies. Hehe..
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post Jun 2 2013, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 2 2013, 09:30 PM)
How about Sales Charges? Similar or slightly higher than FSM? Saw at website they mentioned about "lower SCs"... hmm.gif

With Client Investment Specialists like Eugene and Felix, I'd rather go for FSM thumbup.gif
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should be 3% out of the amount you put to invest

eg. invest in rm1k, rm30 will go to iFast/fund house/your advisor/your advisor's company


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post Jun 2 2013, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ Jun 2 2013, 09:42 PM)
should be 3% out of the amount you put to invest

eg. invest in rm1k, rm30 will go to iFast/fund house/your advisor/your advisor's company
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in that case FSM is much cheaper....
now we know that the trading is not faster,..needed paperwork...maybe to prevent emotional trade?
Sales Charges is more than FSM...
btw, what is the IFAST advantage over FSM?

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post Jun 3 2013, 06:30 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jun 2 2013, 11:44 PM)
in that case FSM is much cheaper....
now we know that the trading is not faster,..needed paperwork...maybe to prevent emotional trade?
Sales Charges is more than FSM...
btw, what is the IFAST advantage over FSM?
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wouldn't call it an advantage, but the difference is you have your financial planner to help you keep an eye on the stuff, he will advise you from time to time, his commission ride on the performance of the funds, hence if the funds are losing money then his commission will reduce as well

this is more suitable for those don't have the time to monitor prices all the time, and also to those very new to the world of UT like me icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ Jun 3 2013, 06:30 AM)
wouldn't call it an advantage, but the difference is you have your financial planner to help you keep an eye on the stuff, he will advise you from time to time, his commission ride on the performance of the funds, hence if the funds are losing money then his commission will reduce as well

this is more suitable for those don't have the time to monitor prices all the time, and also to those very new to the world of UT like me icon_rolleyes.gif
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now that is something good and new, any source on that?
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QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ Jun 3 2013, 07:30 AM)
wouldn't call it an advantage, but the difference is you have your financial planner to help you keep an eye on the stuff, he will advise you from time to time, his commission ride on the performance of the funds, hence if the funds are losing money then his commission will reduce as well

this is more suitable for those don't have the time to monitor prices all the time, and also to those very new to the world of UT like me icon_rolleyes.gif
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They got help invest or trade in shares as well?
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Asian market opens in RED today.

Last Friday, US closed in RED.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Jun 3 2013, 08:28 AM)
Asian market opens in RED today.

Last Friday, US closed in RED.
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Today if Shanghai in red sea, top up Eastspring GEM icon_idea.gif
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post Jun 3 2013, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ Jun 3 2013, 06:30 AM)
wouldn't call it an advantage, but the difference is you have your financial planner to help you keep an eye on the stuff, he will advise you from time to time, his commission ride on the performance of the funds, hence if the funds are losing money then his commission will reduce as well

this is more suitable for those don't have the time to monitor prices all the time, and also to those very new to the world of UT like me icon_rolleyes.gif
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They charge a ~0.5%-1.0% p.a.wrap fee for those service. The wrap fee is based on total invested NAV, hence when your NAV goes down, his commission also goes down. However to compensate on the wrap fee, the sales charges are lowered to 0.5%-1.0% per purchase/switch accordingly.

So fee structure will be :-

1 Wrap fee 0.5%-1.0% p.a. based on daily NAV
2. Sales charge 0.5%-1.0% - one time
3. Fund Management fee - 1.0%-2.0% p.a. based on daily NAV

So for example your holding is 100K RM daily average, the 'FA' fees will be RM 500- RM 1000 per annum for his advice... wink.gif

So whether if it is suitable for you or not, depends.. and they only trade in UT carried by FSM. And each FA can have many clients... and your UT portfolio will tend to be trade heavy... whistling.gif

This post has been edited by gark: Jun 3 2013, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 3 2013, 11:34 AM)
They charge a ~0.5%-1.0% p.a.wrap fee for those service. The wrap fee is based on total invested NAV, hence when your NAV goes down, his commission also goes down. However to compensate on the wrap fee, the sales charges are lowered to 0.5%-1.0% per purchase/switch accordingly.

So fee structure will be :-

1 Wrap fee 0.5%-1.0% p.a. based on daily NAV
2. Sales charge 0.5%-1.0% - one time
3. Fund Management fee - 1.0%-2.0% p.a. based on daily NAV

So for example your holding is 100K RM daily average, the 'FA' fees will be RM 500- RM 1000 per annum for his advice... wink.gif

So whether if it is suitable for you or not, depends.. and they only trade in UT carried by FSM. And each FA can have many clients... and your UT portfolio will tend to be trade heavy... whistling.gif
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Pakcik gark, u pernah pakai iFast? Why u know so much geh unsure.gif

If that's the case, better go to FSM direct, learn to DIY better doh.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 3 2013, 11:41 AM)
Pakcik gark, u pernah pakai iFast? Why u know so much geh unsure.gif

If that's the case, better go to FSM direct, learn to DIY better doh.gif
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No not using them.. just know only... biggrin.gif

Not everyone expert like you can DIY...

Maybe you can become FA here... charge 0.25% for you to 'DIY' other people's account. rclxms.gif Can earn side money... icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by gark: Jun 3 2013, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 3 2013, 11:51 AM)
No not using them.. just know only... biggrin.gif

Not everyone expert like you can DIY...

Maybe you can become FA here... charge 0.25% for you to 'DIY' other people's account.  rclxms.gif Can earn side money... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Big shark got RM100K NAV, RM100K x 0.25% = RM250

per month or per annum jek brows.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 3 2013, 11:54 AM)
Big shark got RM100K NAV, RM100K x 0.25% = RM250

per month or per annum jek brows.gif
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per annum... tongue.gif Ok what, click click 2-3 times a month only per client....More money look for more clients lah..

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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 3 2013, 11:55 AM)
per annum... tongue.gif  Look for more clients lah..
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Not worth my trouble, RM250 1 nite at pub already kaboom doh.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jun 3 2013, 11:56 AM)
Not worth my trouble, RM250 1 nite at pub already kaboom doh.gif
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But easy job mah.. click few times a month... monitor the balance... i think not hard work since you already doing the monitoring daily. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 3 2013, 11:55 AM)
per annum... tongue.gif  Ok what, click click 2-3 times a month only per client....More money look for more clients lah..
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Ooh u mean 0.25% PER PORTFOLIO REVIEW?

Worth thinking brows.gif

As usual, caveat emptor tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Jun 3 2013, 11:34 AM)
They charge a ~0.5%-1.0% p.a.wrap fee for those service. The wrap fee is based on total invested NAV, hence when your NAV goes down, his commission also goes down. However to compensate on the wrap fee, the sales charges are lowered to 0.5%-1.0% per purchase/switch accordingly.

So fee structure will be :-

1 Wrap fee 0.5%-1.0% p.a. based on daily NAV
2. Sales charge 0.5%-1.0% - one time
3. Fund Management fee - 1.0%-2.0% p.a. based on daily NAV

So for example your holding is 100K RM daily average, the 'FA' fees will be RM 500- RM 1000 per annum for his advice... wink.gif

So whether if it is suitable for you or not, depends.. and they only trade in UT carried by FSM. And each FA can have many clients... and your UT portfolio will tend to be trade heavy... whistling.gif
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fund switching is free iinm
my friend told me that for any subsequent topup, 3% will be imposed out of the amount, as the sales charge

not sure about the wrap fee rate though.. he told alot of things but now I forgot 70% of it, I am noob in $$ figures tongue.gif

update: wrap fee is 1.5% per annum

currently not much funds in iFast la, in the future might create a separate account in FSM, for now, let my friend earn abit duit kopi lorr whistling.gif

btw, how is the rate for FSM?

This post has been edited by PhakFuhZai: Jun 3 2013, 01:47 PM
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post Jun 3 2013, 01:54 PM

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WHAT KIND OF CHARGES DO I HAVE TO PAY?

A: There are 2 types of charges. One is the sales charge and the other is the annual expense of the fund.
The normal sales charge for most equity funds are around 7%. However, at Fundsupermart, the advantage is that most equity funds are sold at around 2% sales charge. The sales charge is applied at purchase.

The annual expense of the fund is what is charged to the fund. This includes the fund manager's annual management fee, and other administrative fees that are incurred in the running of the fund. You do not really need to fork out additional money to pay for the annual management charge to the fund manager. They will actually deduct it from the Net Asset Value of the fund daily, and the published price will take into account of the pro-rated annual management charge.



http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/faq.svdo?id=1083#1

so how is the calculation being carried out actually
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shit HSB dropping like shit.. is it normal?
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jun 3 2013, 04:17 PM)
shit HSB dropping like shit.. is it normal?
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u refering to the bond ?

then maybe u should read this

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=3485

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