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Investment [CONNECTIVITY] KVMRT 2 SG BULOH-PUTRAJAYA LINE, And also news about Circle Line

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post Mar 10 2015, 08:59 PM

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Supposed to public display end of this month.

But I think it has been postponed due to major change in alignment.
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post Mar 17 2015, 11:06 PM

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Tender for HSR will begin in June.

MRT2 Revised finalised. Approved by SPAD. In the process of submission and then subsequently Cabinet approval in coming months.

Most experts believe going to Bandar Malaysia is the best idea as if not, then people in future who come by HSR will be stuck as they cannot transfer immediately to TRX and further north KLCC. Interchanging at TRX with MRT1 will bring you to KL Sentral.

Think the big picture. Think the rationale commutation.

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post Mar 18 2015, 01:32 PM

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Pandan will be covered by MRT3 since MRT3 is a circle line that is going through Ampang downwards.

This makes sense for MRT2, as it should not cover the same catchment area as MRT3.

It also makes sense if MRT2 would cover Chan Sow Lin area all the way to Seri Kembangan and Fringe of Bukit Jalil, hopefully.

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post Mar 20 2015, 10:05 AM

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I will share about MRT2 and LRT3 very soon.
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post Mar 20 2015, 01:07 PM

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Example of plans that I think many people already gotten it.

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/115179435202482/
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post Mar 24 2015, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Mar 24 2015, 01:26 PM)
Wow...LRT 3 will pass through Damansara Uptown...nice
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Kayu Ara to be exact.
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post Mar 26 2015, 03:00 PM

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I think hundreds of thousands people want it to serve Equine Park, Putra Permai, Serdang Raya area.
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post Mar 30 2015, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(usherken @ Mar 30 2015, 04:11 PM)
Not right now. Only news is from Tony Pua on news portals.
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Do you actually read Post #1064 above?

I guess most people know MRT2 is being realigned to Bandar Malaysia since last month after a newspaper reported it.

Comment by MRT engineer:

QUOTE(sgmrtbuilder;122816683)
it was realigned to capture HSR as a heavy duty radial line. it also captures BM but HSR was the reason. mnrt2 now takes people from HSR straight to TRX and the city; something that mrt3 would not have done for HSR passengers.

the eastern part of the original alignment was actually low ridership which can be dealt with by the mrt3 circle line which will now be re-aligned to suit.



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post Apr 2 2015, 02:26 AM

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SUMMARY first written at:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/115179435202482/


FLASH NEWS ::: The 13 point updates about MRT Line 2

1. All alignments of Line 2 or MRT Sungai Buloh-Serdang-Putrajaya Line (MRT SSP Line) have not been finalised.

2. The new proposed alignment option involves a change in the section between Tun Razak Exchange and Seri Kembangan Stations, serving Kuchai Lama, Sri Petaling, Sungai Besi and Serdang Raya.

3. This is to enable the SSP Line to integrate with the future terminus of the Kuala Lumpur-Singapore High Speed Rail in Bandar Malaysia - a project spearheaded by 1MDB.

4. A passenger can now travel directly to TRX and KLCC from Bandar Malaysia or interchange at TRX to proceed to Bukit Bintang.

5. The Land Public Transport Commission (SPAD) has proposed a terminus be located adjacent to the KTM and Express Rail Link tracks south of the Royal Malaysian Air Force Base, which will be developed as Bandar Malaysia.

6. This will boost ridership for SSP Line by an additional 16,000 passengers per day because the SSP Line would then interchange at Chan Sow Lin LRT Station (Ampang Line) and Sungai Besi LRT Station (Ampang Line - Sri Petaling Branch).

7. The new option will also see a more direct route for commuters from Putrajaya, Cyberjaya and Serdang to Kuala Lumpur and reduce the expected end-to-end travel time from 100 minutes to 84 minutes. Say example, someone in Cyberjaya going into KL City would not want to waste time bypassing the Pandan and Cheras hinterland.

8. The realignment will have a marginally longer underground section, which means less land acquisition. There will be a reduction of the elevated section by almost 10km, and a reduction of elevated stations. These reductions will offset any additional cost which may result of a marginally longer underground section.

9. Land acquisition for the MRT may not be necessary in Bandar Malaysia. The SSP Line is underground at this location and given that the land belongs to a government-owned entity, it is likely that MRT Corp will take the approach of the mutual agreement route taken in Sungai Buloh–Kajang (SBK) Line. This will mean MRT Corp will not have to acquire land but co-exist with Bandar Malaysia's infrastructure. The mutual agreement route that MRT Corp took with properties in Jalan Sultan and Jalan Inai in Kuala Lumpur for the SBK Line saved the Government some RM1.4 billion.

10. The government had asked MRT Corp to immediately conduct studies on the alignment for MRT Line 3 (Circle Line) with a view to providing the leftout areas of Pandan and Ampang with an MRT service.

11. The assertion that the realignment has resulted in a delay of six months is also incorrect and that the construction time for the new option remains the same.

12. The only change to the timeline is for the public display, which is now expected to take place in May 2015 instead of March 2015.

13. The public is invited to the official public display which is expected to start in mid-May at 24 locations across the city.


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Proposed alignment of SSP line not final
The Malaysian Insider | 1 April 2015
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...t-final-bernama

All proposed alignments of the Serdang-Putrajaya Line (SSP Line) remain as options and have not been finalised, said Mass Rapid Transit Corporation Sdn Bhd (MRT Corp) today.

This is in response to DAP MP Tony Phua's allegation and media reports that the realignment of the Sungai Buloh-Serdang-Putrajaya mass rail transit (MRT) line is to benefit debt-laden strategic investment fund 1Malaysia Development Bhd (1MDB) as the government will have to acquire land from it to build the line.

Pua said the MRT Line 2 would bypass the densely populated residential areas of Cheras and Pandan, and instead pass through Bandar Malaysia, a property development project by 1MDB for which not "a single construction stone" has been laid.

The company said the alignments could only be finalised after going through the public display exercise and subsequent approval by the government, MRT Corp strategic communication and public relations director Amir Mahmood Razak said the new proposed alignment option for the SSP Line involves a change in the section between Tun Razak Exchange and Seri Kembangan Stations, serving Kuchai Lama, Sri Petaling, Sungai Besi and Serdang Raya.

"An earlier alignment option, instead of passing through the above locations, had covered the Maluri, Pandan, Cheras and Bukit Belimbing areas," he said in a statement today.

He made the clarification to dispel allegations in the media regarding the alignment of the proposed SSP Line, the second line of the Klang Valley MRT project.

The new proposed alignment option was done to enable the SSP Line to integrate with the future Kuala Lumpur-Singapore High Speed Rail Terminal, said Amir.

"The Land Public Transport Commission (SPAD) has proposed the terminus be located adjacent to the KTM and Express Rail Link tracks south of the Royal Malaysian Air Force Base in Sungai Besi.

"It is therefore an excellent opportunity to integrate the SSP Line with the HSR. This is the kind of forward planning that will ensure maximum convenience to the public while giving good ridership for the SSP Line," he added.

Amir said the new option is now expected to bring an additional ridership of 16,000 passengers per day compared with the original proposed alignment, and allows the SSP Line to be integrated with the Chan Sow Lin and Sungai Besi LRT stations.

"We are, of course, constrained by funding and capacity in terms of building more lines, but if we can connect to another existing or proposed line earlier, the responsible thing to do is find a route to do so.

"The additional link to the Sungai Besi LRT Station is a bonus as it then expands the urban rail footprint of that particular catchment," said Amir.

The new option will also see a more direct route for commuters from Putrajaya, Cyberjaya and Serdang to Kuala Lumpur and reduce the expected end-to-end travel time from 100 minutes to 84 minutes.

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Amir further says as the project has not started, there cannot be cost or budget overruns pertaining to the proposed SSP Line.

“The realignment will have a marginally longer underground section, which means less land acquisition.

“Furthermore, there is a reduction of the elevated section by almost 10km, and a reduction of elevated stations. These reductions will offset any additional cost which may result of a marginally longer underground section,” he says.

Amir also points out that land acquisition for the MRT may not be necessary in Bandar Malaysia.

“The SSP Line is underground at this location and given that the land belongs to a government-owned entity, it is likely that we will take the approach of the mutual agreement route we took with the Sungai Buloh–Kajang (SBK) Line.

“This will mean we will not have to acquire but co-exist with Bandar Malaysia,” he says. The mutual agreement route that MRT Corp took with properties in Jalan Sultan and Jalan Inai in Kuala Lumpur for the SBK Line saved the Government some RM1.4 billion.

On Pandan being deprived of the MRT, Amir says the area is currently already served by the LRT Ampang Line.

“As such, the criticality for a rail-based public transport mode there is not as high as that for Kuchai, Sri Petaling and Serdang Raya. Right now, the KTM Komuter has only one station serving these areas,” he says.

The new option’s integration with Chan Sow Lin LRT Station gives a link to Pandan and Cheras.
Amir said the government had asked MRT Corp to immediately conduct studies on the alignment for MRT Line 3 with a view to providing the area with an MRT service.

"MRT Corp will conduct a feasibility study for Line 3 later in 2015 to further improve rail connectivity in Pandan. Once that is completed, we will submit it to SPAD," he added.

Amir said the assertion that the realignment has resulted in a delay of six months is also incorrect and that the construction time for the new option remains the same.

"The only change to the timeline is for the public display, which is now expected to take place in May 2015 instead of March 2015," he added. – Bernama, April 1, 2015.
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post Apr 3 2015, 02:52 PM

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My wishlist is:

Chan Sow Lin
Bandar Malaysia
Midfields
Kuchai Lama
Sri Petaling
Sungai Besi
Bukit Jalil East
Bukit Serdang
Serdang Raya
MINES
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post Apr 3 2015, 06:13 PM

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TPM = Bukit Jalil East in my example here.
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post Apr 5 2015, 09:32 AM

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Kuchai Lama and Sri Petaling - the biggest winners from Bandar Malaysia re-alignment?
http://www.ptlm.com.my/index.php/component...nd-sri-petaling
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post Apr 12 2015, 01:01 AM

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Will update from whatever info I have briefly written about MRT2 here soon:
http://www.ptlm.com.my/index.php/about-ptl...nd-sri-petaling

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post Apr 12 2015, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Apr 12 2015, 01:06 AM)
Full of speculation.

IMO write up is just kaki kong kaki song at this moment.
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U sure boh?

Don't forget I'm in planning field compared to some property guru friends. smile.gif
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post Apr 12 2015, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(Asali @ Apr 12 2015, 09:24 AM)
Personally, I reckoned PTLM do a good job. Looks like the realignment would eliminating stations from 21 to 31.

I am a bit puzzling why considered Sungai Besi LRT Station as interchange? It will be sensible move to an existing transportation hub as interchange in TBS it shall boosted ridership more than 16,000 passengers per days.
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TBS will not be linked to MRT2. And based on advice from experts and engineers, there is no way MRT can penetrate into that area.
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post Apr 12 2015, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(Asali @ Apr 12 2015, 10:24 AM)
Thanks for the information.

Is it because we are lack of knowledge penetrating into that area?

Still can be seen there are some empty lands around there. If can't penetrated why not make it nearby within 500m walking distance?
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MRT Corp will reduce land acquisition when necessary. Btw it is not just about "land", how about other technicalities, gradient and going in and coming out from the BTS? And how much money to re-design all the modes of integration there?

Having said that, MRT2 could still consider BTS when the needs arise, i.e. public complaints and public wants. Or even a compromise act, such as a station nearby and linked with walkways.

As for LRT interchange, I would think that an interchange at Chan Sow Lin is better as this is just 1 station north of the station at Bandar Malaysia. Anything south of Bandar Malaysia, should serve a "middle" of two catchment areas, i.e. on highways. The HSR interchange remains the focal point.

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You guys should put your "wishlist" on stations after Bandar Malaysia down south to Serdang.
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post Apr 12 2015, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(Iam Power @ Apr 12 2015, 06:51 PM)
Bandar Malaysia? Good planning if jadi la...
TRX too having problems..
1mdb debt is escalating
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It doesn't need to be debt.

Read this weekend The Edge article about passing law to compulsorily build rail over land. The rail is financed by MRT Corp's DanaInfra debt which is totally different category compared to 1MDB's debt.

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post Apr 20 2015, 05:13 PM

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As expected and shared.
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post Apr 20 2015, 10:07 PM

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Bandar Malaysia has 2 stations, one of which is integrated with HSR and another one is to serve the future business/residential park.

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