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Investment [CONNECTIVITY] KVMRT 2 SG BULOH-PUTRAJAYA LINE, And also news about Circle Line

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post May 18 2013, 09:24 PM

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I guess Circle Line will go to Old Klang Road and Pantai Dalam area.... pantai sentral park is indeed ideal.

Btw Cyberjaya... which part is best?

Selayang... which part is best?

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QUOTE(accetera @ May 18 2013, 09:24 PM)
I guess Circle Line will go to Old Klang Road and Pantai Dalam area.... pantai sentral park is indeed ideal.

Btw Cyberjaya... which part is best?

Selayang... which part is best?
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Sifu , which part of OKR is the best that u guess ? Tq
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QUOTE(skcJVN @ May 19 2013, 12:01 AM)
Sifu , which part of OKR is the best that u guess ? Tq
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At least have a station in Scott Garden
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QUOTE(accetera @ May 18 2013, 09:24 PM)
I guess Circle Line will go to Old Klang Road and Pantai Dalam area.... pantai sentral park is indeed ideal.

Btw Cyberjaya... which part is best?

Selayang... which part is best?
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circle line 3 will have station at mont kiara/dutamas?
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post May 19 2013, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(accetera @ May 18 2013, 04:08 PM)
Will be interesting to see if they can extend abit to Selayang (northwards) and Cyberjaya (southwards).

We should also start to look at Circle Line.
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Hi accetera kor,

I thought MRT 2 already include Selayang in their route?

Also, are the effects of these MRT lines overstated? The existing Kelana Jaya LRT has a ridership of 460,000 pax daily. This is not very much lesser than the expected ridership of 460,000 for MRT 1 and 540,000 for MRT2. What I mean is, I do not remember people going so crazy about properties around LRTs for example properties around Kelana Jaya LRT station are still not very highly in demand.
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What about kota kemuning area
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post May 19 2013, 04:59 PM

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1. MRT is different compared to LRT. The economic impact is also different. Judging from Singapore experience.

2. The rail system that we are talking today comes under a unified company and is better managed, integrated as well as regulated. We are also talking about having commercial within rail and creating multi-modal hubs with high focus on feeder buses. All these came only in recent years.

3. Long time ago, our LRT was built to cater to Commonwealth Games and subsequently used mainly by working people going to KL city. However, the traffic and parking condition today is far far more severe than before creating a massive desire to put people onto urban rail.

4. There is also a changing demographics where more and more younger people are working or studying in city or locations near the LRT/MRT. KL has many times more outstation people today too and our foreign tourists have tripled over the last 10 years.

5. Working people today are also more keen on public transport as long as the quality improved and it connects their home to office or shopping malls. People want convenience and saving time, rather than stuck in jams, no-parking situation and a seemingly prefer walking through "air-con" condition. This explained the drastic surge in ridership over the last few years and if the trend continues, our Rail system will have brighter chance to improve.

6. Locations within the current LRT have seen property prices moving upwards. Last time, Kelana Jaya is not worthwhile, but now is a different story.

7. The MRT that we are planning in coming years will be of a high-impact one. Developers believe alot of quality and affordable homes will be built near MRT causing a price hike in the location-specific, partly because those MRT locations have scarcity in land. Also, Prasarana is venturing into integrated property for the first time (they have not done so with LRT so many years).

8. I believe, likewise in Singapore, there'll be some regulatory change whereby entering the City Centre would require car drivers to pay more. Hence forcing more people to get onto the trains. The objective is because the Govt has intention to increase the public transport share by 2020.

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QUOTE(accetera @ May 19 2013, 04:59 PM)
1. MRT is different compared to LRT. The economic impact is also different. Judging from Singapore experience.

2. The rail system that we are talking today comes under a unified company and is better managed, integrated as well as regulated. We are also talking about having commercial within rail and creating multi-modal hubs with high focus on feeder buses. All these came only in recent years.

3. Long time ago, our LRT was built to cater to Commonwealth Games and subsequently used mainly by working people going to KL city. However, the traffic and parking condition today is far far more severe than before creating a massive desire to put people onto urban rail.

4. There is also a changing demographics where more and more younger people are working or studying in city or locations near the LRT/MRT. KL has many times more outstation people today too and our foreign tourists have tripled over the last 10 years. 

5. Working people today are also more keen on public transport as long as the quality improved and it connects their home to office or shopping malls. People want convenience and saving time, rather than stuck in jams, no-parking situation and a seemingly prefer walking through "air-con" condition. This explained the drastic surge in ridership over the last few years and if the trend continues, our Rail system will have brighter chance to improve.

6. Locations within the current LRT have seen property prices moving upwards. Last time, Kelana Jaya is not worthwhile, but now is a different story.

7. The MRT that we are planning in coming years will be of a high-impact one. Developers believe alot of quality and affordable homes will be built near MRT causing a price hike in the location-specific, partly because those MRT locations have scarcity in land. Also, Prasarana is venturing into integrated property for the first time (they have not done so with LRT so many years). 

8. I believe, likewise in Singapore, there'll be some regulatory change whereby entering the City Centre would require car drivers to pay more. Hence forcing more people to get onto the trains. The objective is because the Govt has intention to increase the public transport share by 2020.
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Bother, it took Singapore > 30 years, to have superb public transport connection today.

& only last 5 years Singapore started to build extra links non stop.

While I am sad, Malaysia like to build LRT & ktm from initial, and still poor connections 10 years back... Most of the time, I really cannot understand and appreciate the initial planning...

Anyway, MRT will be the KL dream comes true.

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accetera boss, any station in bandar Sri Damansara? Where?

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QUOTE(accetera @ May 18 2013, 10:24 PM)
I guess Circle Line will go to Old Klang Road and Pantai Dalam area.... pantai sentral park is indeed ideal.

Btw Cyberjaya... which part is best?

Selayang... which part is best?
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I hope majority stations ll b built near pr1ma. I can see the poor suffers a lot due to inflation. They cannot afford to bbb like us.
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Bandar Sri Damansara is most likely within Damansara Avenue as developer lobbying. The only problem either Sri Damansara or Bandar Menjalara gets or BOTH also get. That is the radial line along Jalan Kuala Selangor/MRR2 starting from Sg Buloh KTM-Damansara Damai.

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I think both r equally important as tis 2 areas hav lotsa middle income earners working in klcc. So ktm alone ll not help. Furthermore ktm alwiz malfunction n giv theworst possible services.


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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ May 19 2013, 06:59 PM)
I think both r equally important as tis 2 areas hav lotsa middle income earners working in klcc. So ktm alone ll not help. Furthermore ktm alwiz malfunction n giv theworst possible services.
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In terms of planning future infrastructure cannot just overlap with KTM merely because KTM service is poor. That is another issue for KTM to solve.

Best is the best of both worlds.

Whichever area that has large middle income earners and traffic flow from the existing roads and bus users.

In the meantime, I can see alot of good news for developers that are developing their "megaprojects".

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QUOTE(accetera @ May 19 2013, 06:38 PM)
Bandar Sri Damansara is most likely within Damansara Avenue as developer lobbying. The only problem either Sri Damansara or Bandar Menjalara gets or BOTH also get. That is the radial line along Jalan Kuala Selangor/MRR2 starting from Sg Buloh KTM-Damansara Damai.
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I was wondering why Damansara Avenue launch is so slow. Maybe pending for such great news...

Initial shape of Damansara Avenue is coming up. Good for Sri Damansara residences.

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QUOTE(propertybbb @ May 19 2013, 06:02 PM)
I hope majority stations ll b built near pr1ma. I can see the poor suffers a lot due to inflation. They cannot afford to bbb like us.
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Cyberjaya will have its own monorail that link to Putrajaya Monorail.
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QUOTE(accetera @ May 18 2013, 04:08 PM)
Will be interesting to see if they can extend abit to Selayang (northwards) and Cyberjaya (southwards).

We should also start to look at Circle Line.
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Is Selayang already part of the route? The recent map posted shows the line passing through the edge of Selayang(no station?) going to Kepong but in the article, it was mentioned that SP Setia will benefit from Selayang and also Selayang was mentioned in previous various articles that I read. Then now, you say it would be nice if they can extend to Selayang. So now, I am very confused. Hope can clarify a bit.


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QUOTE(Martinis @ May 20 2013, 10:40 AM)
Is Selayang already part of the route? The recent map posted shows the line passing through the edge of Selayang(no station?) going to Kepong but in the article, it was mentioned that SP Setia will benefit from Selayang and also Selayang was mentioned in previous various articles that I read. Then now, you say it would be nice if they can extend to Selayang. So now, I am very confused. Hope can clarify a bit.
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I think u got it right

selayang was mentioned going to kepong.

but it is more on kepong side of selayang or jinjang side of selayang. not center part of selayang.

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From the discussion here it seems like a very high possibility for Kepong Sentral to be hit by the line and be one of the KTM interchange?
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QUOTE(xphossis @ May 20 2013, 09:51 PM)
From the discussion here it seems like a very high possibility for Kepong Sentral to be hit by the line and be one of the KTM interchange?
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saw this?

Kepong actually going to have 4 stations from the map below.

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I am wondering will there have any station at Selayang. In the last weekend Star Paper, the map did not show any route will pass by selayang, only Kepong and Batu.


QUOTE(tikaram @ May 22 2013, 11:21 AM)
saw this?

Kepong actually going to have 4 stations from the map below.
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