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theCrab
post May 17 2013, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(HonMing @ May 16 2013, 01:00 PM)
Don't think RM 7-10 is enough. Packing up these healthy calories and proteins won't fit in your budget. I suggest you count your budget per 2 week or per month. Imagine you need a lot of eggs, milks, protein shakes, meats, and other high calories stuff. Some of them are really not cheap especially in Malaysia. Something like peanut butter, cheese, and nuts are quite expensive here. Personal experience. You will need more that your budget per day.
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1kg chicken breast around rm 10 in wetmarket
1 kg chicken breast give 230 gm proteins
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post May 18 2013, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(theCrab @ May 17 2013, 08:29 AM)
1kg chicken breast around rm 10 in wetmarket
1 kg chicken breast give 230 gm proteins
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but cant swallow 1kg a day lol
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post May 23 2013, 10:34 PM

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easy
stock up on Oats, Peanutbutter, WW bread, milk, some canned tuna, optimen (multivit), whey protein ( 1 scoop rm2.10 25g protein ).
and this diet is easy no need cook but the cost is your main protein source is whey protein.
and beside whey, in my conclusion is simply the cheapest and easiest protein source u could get.
inb4 chicken breast taste is mega_shok.gif
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post May 25 2013, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(zacharyseng @ May 23 2013, 10:34 PM)
easy
stock up on Oats, Peanutbutter, WW bread, milk, some canned tuna, optimen (multivit), whey protein ( 1 scoop rm2.10 25g protein ).
and this diet is easy no need cook but the cost is your main protein source is whey protein.
and beside whey, in my conclusion is simply the cheapest and easiest protein source u could get.
inb4 chicken breast taste is  mega_shok.gif
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Thank you! I will try those. flex.gif
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post May 25 2013, 12:55 PM

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1. I also find that whey protein is the cheapest source of protein.
- But we can't be depending solely on shakes for our protein source.

2. Canned tuna isnt exactly cheap. - 1 can Olive Oil Lite whether ayam brand or the w/e boi brand is like RM5.00 a can.

3. Multivites & EFA are great to supplement all the missing daily requirements. so no need to food hunt for the micronutrients. Only have to worry about the macros.

4. I find eggs the cheapest, easiest to down type of protein.

5. So, in conclusion, I am guessing this is the most budget friendly and sensible protein macro:
a. Caseine
b. Whey (or up it to isolate)
c. Eggs (6-10 large per day)
d. 1 to 2 meals with a piece of meat (cheapest will be chicken breast, followed by beef and fish)

6. To fulfill calories, I scream... i mean, Ice Cream. biggrin.gif

-- my 2 cents if I were to hit it at a constrained budget. I would think staying lean is easier than getting big while on a budget, but then again, I am blessed enough to never cross this path yet biggrin.gif

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post May 25 2013, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(anthony2211 @ May 25 2013, 12:55 PM)
1. I also find that whey protein is the cheapest source of protein.
- But we can't be depending solely on shakes for our protein source.

2. Canned tuna isnt exactly cheap. - 1 can Olive Oil Lite whether ayam brand or the w/e boi brand is like RM5.00 a can.

3. Multivites & EFA are great to supplement all the missing daily requirements. so no need to food hunt for the micronutrients. Only have to worry about the macros.

4. I find eggs the cheapest, easiest to down type of protein.

5. So, in conclusion, I am guessing this is the most budget friendly and sensible protein macro:
a. Caseine
b. Whey (or up it to isolate)
c. Eggs (6-10 large per day)
d. 1 to 2 meals with a piece of meat (cheapest will be chicken breast, followed by beef and fish)

6. To fulfill calories, I scream... i mean, Ice Cream. biggrin.gif

-- my 2 cents if I were to hit it at a constrained budget. I would think staying lean is easier than getting big while on a budget, but then again, I am blessed enough to never cross this path yet biggrin.gif

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Well I agreed on most of these points but I do have something to add:

1. You can get a can of Tuna for RM 2.65. The BlueBay Shredded Tuna sells for this price. Or NHK do sells 1.85KG tuna for RM 26. Olive Oil Tuna is surely not a cheap budget food biggrin.gif
2. Caseine and Whey, eventhough it gives a good amount of protein, both combination + a multivits is considered too much for Uni student (that's what I faced during my uni years).
3. Eggs, this is the main ingredient for budget food. Hate it or Love it thumbup.gif
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post May 26 2013, 02:15 AM

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ya sry OP forgot to include eggs
(large egg 50g rm0.28 70cal 5g fat 6g protein)
or if u need pure protein (large egg white only 18cal 3protein) < not worth bro

methods of serving
when u got time - dat fancy omelette
when u no time - hard boil FTW
when u are 10min late to class - DOWN IT RAW LIKE A MAN

but still the taste is doh.gif


edit : FYI (whey + peanut = casein ) ~> casein is irrelevant

This post has been edited by zacharyseng: May 26 2013, 02:19 AM
anthony2211
post May 26 2013, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(zacharyseng @ May 26 2013, 02:15 AM)
ya sry OP forgot to include eggs
(large egg 50g rm0.28 70cal 5g fat 6g protein)
or if u need pure protein (large egg white only 18cal 3protein) < not worth bro

edit : FYI (whey + peanut = casein ) ~> casein is irrelevant
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Just constructive thinking out-loud:

I am not sure what else is more economical then dat good ol egg and chiken breast for proteins. (aside from powders)
I personally find egg is awesome simply because it is easy to prepare, store and eaten.
I can easily down a dozen of half boiled eggs with a bit of soy sauce and pepper within seconds. As for hardboiled, I snack on them sometimes, by mashing it up (like 6whites and 2 yolks) with a bit of high quality butter (quality because less butter more the taste/smell) and small bit of salt and they go down quite easily. Same cannot be said with my Chicken breast meat. Note that for chicken, it has to be fully cooked unlike beef. And when stored cold, its even worse. Lets say its stored hot, unless you are a decent cook unlike me, it will take some care to ensure it is not dried up while you grill, boil or fry it. So, my guess for economy sakes, poached or grill chicken breast yields highest proteins per ringgit.
With that said, my easiest, manliest (being a dud in the kitchen), way was to dice the chicken breast, add egg whites and small portion of egg yolk, put in some tomatoes, bit of salt and pepper and fry them ala omelette style. Can store in fridge and still wont feel like you are swallowing cardboard given the tomatoes and egg will smoothen it out.

Whey + peanut is casein?? Dang, I never knew that. Gotta find out more about it. It is not irrelevant though. Caseine is for slow protein release. It is best for before bedtime or on days when you are not working out. Caseine to protein is like low gly index is to carbs. Slow steady release. Should you know that already, then how is that irrelevant? Does that mean that we can just chew peanuts and drink casein and save some money? or Buy regular whey powder, grind up some peanuts and mix it up? Cause my supply of ON Caseine is like RM200 bux a pop. Do elaborate, it is interesting to me biggrin.gif I've never had to economize my food nor my supps, so I will never have ingenuity to improvise on them biggrin.gif

For calories sakes, ice cream. or add a bit of honey to your chicken breast, oats, etc. 100g of Honey is 1400 kCal. One of the best things to give kids when they are sick and don't feel like eating and still need the energy...Honey Drink smile.gif



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post May 26 2013, 10:58 AM

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fat / (slow) protein slows down digestion of carb / (fast) protein, not as effective as casein but still do fine
eg: peanut + whey = casein
lean meat = casein
peanut + lean meat = idk what to say flex.gif

ever heard of carb's GI index become useless after complimenting with fat/protein? look up in google < wub.gif
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post May 27 2013, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(anthony2211 @ May 26 2013, 02:42 AM)
Just constructive thinking out-loud:

I am not sure what else is more economical then dat good ol egg and chiken breast for proteins. (aside from powders)
I personally find egg is awesome simply because it is easy to prepare, store and eaten. 
I can easily down a dozen of half boiled eggs with a bit of soy sauce and pepper within seconds. As for hardboiled, I snack on them sometimes, by mashing it up (like 6whites and 2 yolks) with a bit of high quality butter (quality because less butter more the taste/smell) and small bit of salt and they go down quite easily. Same cannot be said with my Chicken breast meat.  Note that for chicken, it has to be fully cooked unlike beef. And when stored cold, its even worse. Lets say its stored hot, unless you are a decent cook unlike me, it will take some care to ensure it is not dried up while you grill, boil or fry it.  So, my guess for economy sakes, poached or grill chicken breast yields highest proteins per ringgit.
With that said, my easiest, manliest (being a dud in the kitchen), way was to dice the chicken breast, add egg whites and small portion of egg yolk, put in some tomatoes, bit of salt and pepper and fry them ala omelette style.  Can store in fridge and still wont feel like you are swallowing cardboard given the tomatoes and egg will smoothen it out.

Whey + peanut is casein?? Dang, I never knew that. Gotta find out more about it.  It is not irrelevant though. Caseine is for slow protein release. It is best for before bedtime or on days when you are not working out.  Caseine to protein is like low gly index is to carbs. Slow steady release. Should you know that already, then how is that irrelevant? Does that mean that we can just chew peanuts and drink casein and save some money? or Buy regular whey powder, grind up some peanuts and mix it up? Cause my supply of ON Caseine is like RM200 bux a pop.  Do elaborate, it is interesting to me biggrin.gif  I've never had to economize my food nor my supps, so I will never have ingenuity to improvise on them biggrin.gif

For calories sakes, ice cream. or add a bit of honey to your chicken breast, oats, etc. 100g of Honey is 1400 kCal. One of the best things to give kids when they are sick and don't feel like eating and still need the energy...Honey Drink smile.gif
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Get a kitchen scale and start comparing against recipes that have the calories mention when you cook the same weight of chicken. You'd be surprise sometimes when the amount of chicken is actually smaller than the amount that gives you the "full" feeling. I know I got a shock. Kitchen scale are pretty cheap to buy if you go for analog (non-digital) scales.

I'm also a bit of a lazy cook. I bought an oven so that I don't have to babysit the dish except to turn the timer (limit was 1 hr) once to get 1.5-2 hrs of roasting. I do this with beef, pork and chicken. Seasonings - whatever is handy and cheap. Cooking for the week and then freezing it in smaller containers for my meals throughout the week. For fish, it's shorter duration in the oven but you can do grilling in there too.

When you shop, take note of the prices between the small grocery shops and the supermarkets. Best is to talk to housewives - they aren't the Home Finance Ministers for nothing. I also speak to people whose income are less but they have to feed huge families - they have a lot of tips for budget shopping too and they would know where to get great ingredients at bargain prices. And get into the habit of haggling for lower prices. I do this even at supermarkets but only when I buy stuff straight from the cold storage i.e. behind the scenes. Also, if you're willing to take bones and do the food cleaning yourself, the price goes down lower. However, at the supermarkets, the chaps there are pretty good to clean, cut and debone for free if you take all the bones away.

Fish - I actually prefer local fish which are cheaper and more fresh. Even cheap fish like sardine is pretty good for omega3 source. Mackerel (tenggiri) is pretty good too. The problem is checking where the source is from - buying from the roadside may not be a good idea because a lot of rivers are polluted with sewage waste that the Fisheries Dept wouldn't let fishmongers at markets sell them. To kill bacteria in fish before cooking, the fish has to be frozen for 48 hours - that's the general practice in the food industry.

Stock - this is probably not commonly talk about but try to make stock. Boil meat bones to get the nutrients out. You can use the stock later to make simple soup or even to boil vegetables in them (the Japanese do this alot). I save up my meat bones and boil them. Makes interesting soups and even for noodle soups.
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post Jun 9 2013, 04:52 PM

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Wanted to ask here... when you all cook egg, did you consume the yolk too? or just throw it away?

Cause from what i've read, the yolk contain as much protein as egg white right? But if we consume all... cholesterol would kill..

So what is the way of consuming egg here? Normally i just consume 1-2 full egg, and 2-3 only egg white.. Is that kind of waste?


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post Jun 9 2013, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(Darkripper @ Jun 9 2013, 04:52 PM)
Wanted to ask here... when you all cook egg, did you consume the yolk too? or just throw it away?

Cause from what i've read, the yolk contain as much protein as egg white right? But if we consume all... cholesterol would kill..

So what is the way of consuming egg here? Normally i just consume 1-2 full egg, and 2-3 only egg white.. Is that kind of waste?
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http://my.clevelandclinic.org/heart/preven...elines9_01.aspx
http://whfoods.org/genpage.php?tname=fightdz&dbid=2
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QUOTE(DT1 @ Jun 9 2013, 05:42 PM)
Nice read here... did revive some science knowledge about LDL and HDL during high school smile.gif

So in conclusion, eat all? tongue.gif Wanna know how sifu eat~
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QUOTE(Darkripper @ Jun 9 2013, 06:30 PM)
Nice read here... did revive some science knowledge about LDL and HDL during high school  smile.gif

So in conclusion, eat all?  tongue.gif  Wanna know how sifu eat~
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Eat all you want, but make sure it's a part of an overall healthy diet, get tested on an annual basis, and diligent exercise.
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post Jun 9 2013, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(DT1 @ Jun 9 2013, 06:55 PM)
Eat all you want, but make sure it's a part of an overall healthy diet, get tested on an annual basis, and diligent exercise.
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Okies~ thanks for the advice..

btw do you do annual health test? and what test you all undergo? to check that we didnt take unhealthy diet? As i tends to scared i take too much protein and end up destroying my liver.
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QUOTE(Darkripper @ Jun 9 2013, 07:10 PM)
Okies~ thanks for the advice..

btw do you do annual health test? and what test you all undergo? to check that we didnt take unhealthy diet? As i tends to scared i take too much protein and end up destroying my liver.
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Ask darklight for advice in this area .. Lol.
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post Jun 11 2013, 01:34 PM

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erm i currently studying and my groceries is rm100 per week..not quite exp,its actually better when u cook urself rather than eating outside,besides eating outside cost the same as eating at home..why not?=)
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QUOTE(Ldee @ May 13 2013, 10:11 PM)
hi i uni student also, stop hanging at mamak! it found myself an idiot paying rm5 for nasi goreng kampung..

nw bulk meal : 2 serving fusion mass.. solid meal sometime chicken rice / kebab.. dun waste ur money and good luck!
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mamak is the cheapest restaurant for bulk yawn.gif
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QUOTE(ugmonk @ May 13 2013, 07:12 PM)
Hi everyone. I want to start bodybuilding. Not started yet. When i read some of the topic in this forum, the way to bodybuilding are eat more with healthy diet and do workout. But I have a money limitation since i only depends on my study loan. What can I get for eating with a low budget spending?
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Bro,

Eat healthy, train hard...that all, u dont have to think about supplement, because supplement is supplement.. i dnt take protein shake for past 3 years because its xpensive..
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