Yes i am, from BAC in case you want to know more LOL

Bro, is it tough to study for UKT program ?

If you want to compare UKT and UOL, i personally think that UOL is harder due to the high standard UOL established (although much cheaper), but if you considering UKT LLB, please make sure that you are capable of getting at least 2:1 minimum. At UK, having 2:1 is so common that you can't even guarantee a training contract or even pursuing LLM if you are not a 2:1 student, 2:2 or lower degree is already considered useless and you have to work a lot harder to even up with those 2:1 students or higher such as work experience accumulation or others. Back at Malaysia, i personally think the situation would be relatively same. Even a 2:2 UOL is on par with 2:1 UKT, hence you should know how low a 2:2 UKT be. While you can judge me from being extreme, but this is my honest view, i would stand corrected if anyone could statistically or evidently proved me otherwise.

Answering your question, whether is it tough would depend. From my perspective, UKT is tough (but not tougher than UOL since it is 100% written-based examination), a guy like me who study only last minute only get probably 2:2, hence not of useful degree. My advice to you is if you really considering UKT, i suggest 1+2 UKT which mean you go studying at UK from 2nd year because i think their education systems are way more better that Malaysia and i think you could study better or higher possibility achieve a better grade (but no clubbing or drinking or always travelling at UK). (For example, at UK you only attend the lecture 1 hour per day but at Malaysia is 2 hours which could easily lose focus and the UK staff is more attentive and helpful) Having said that, you must being able to afford the fee LOL.

According to my situation, although my results only partially released, it is of having high chance that i would get a 2:2 degree. Hence, if it comes down to this, i better go back my hometown and sell CharKueyTeow to earn a living......

But the truth is having a 2:2 UKT degree you could still study CLP but CLP is way much harder than UKT, yet another hurdle to cross.

This post has been edited by zone3310: Jun 9 2015, 04:49 PM

Excuse me, but I've just completed my A-levels (half a year for A2 is beyond overkill), and I'm looking around for a law university.

I've narrowed down the choices to two: BAC and Taylor's.
For all I have researched, with twinning programs in UKT, I'll be able to achieve my goal of getting into the BPTC.

However, choosing between the two is a problem. Note that my parents told me to disregard the price, since the UKT programs for the two only has a 5k per year difference between the two.

Taylor's has the university environment my parents want me to be in (I'm spent all my education years in a room as much as possible), and has the better lecturer-student ratio.

BAC doesn't have these, looking at the sheer number of students and the fact that the environment is basically 'loud streets'. Also the fact that they are less reluctant to drop students. However, the fact that it's the (said to be) best law school in Malaysia is a factor I always come back to.

Thank you for your opinion.

well i guess it depends on what you want to work as in the future. if you want to be a lawyer then CLP is a must. personally i think that LLM doesn't help much with career progress unless you're planning to be a professor.

what about Help? during my time Help University College had pretty good UKT programs, we had more choices, like Manchester, Leeds, Cardiff, etc. not sure about now though.

This post has been edited by TzeThon: Jun 11 2015, 06:07 PM

Hi there,
Which route did you take ? CLP or Bar ? Thanks.

Well I did my A-levels in help, but really there's nothing there.
So hard to find lunch on weekends. Which is the bane of my existence.

i took CLP. regretted because it's only recognised in Malaysia.
but if you're not planning to work elsewhere it's not too bad to have CLP.

hahaha. but if they really provide more choices in terms of the UK universities i really don't think food is the main concern.

I think Taylor's provides 5 choices. HELP I think similar number.
It's just BAC with the retarded amount of choices.

where else recognises UK Bar ?

Hi there, why do you think so? Are you planning to work at UK or other countries? What's your current status then? From what i've heard, mostly BPTC holder end up working at Malaysia but it sure open up opportunities of career options.

take my advice if your family poor go for UOL either in atc or bac. If your family can afford you study go for UKT 2+1, if you rich den u can go 1+2. Listen me reason out. You pick to enter LLB, face it you only got one reason, you mau jadi lawyer. Ok, you can become a lawyer but let me warn you that the journey is not easy especially CLP and BAR. If you got mindset to study clp already or simply no money to study bar (120k ringgit) then I suggest you go UOL because they prepare you for the hardship you face in clp. You can pick ukt like me and go clp but end result sama also, you come back Malaysia, just that you will face cultural shock. UKT yr 1 yr 2 i never study rely on lecturer tip get 2:2. Year 3 i put some effort get 2:1. But now i doing CLP 24/7 library also want cry, 10 subjects, 9 month, 38% passing rate, if you fail miss you waste money but most important 9 months of your life(im a 22 yr old guy baylieve me 9 months worth alot when u are at my age). But then you can also go BAR, alot ppl say BAR easier than clp, but you can tell them to najib themselves because BAR even though has higher passing rate around 60% but its meticulous and the fee you pay here is 120k. Which bring me back to my first point, go uol, study hard 3 yrs, taylor don't consider becuz those are rich asses that will most likely fail their clp, den continue your clp. This is the cheapest route. Or you think you can live up a barrister standard go ukt, 1+2 and take BAR, this is the most expensive route but relatively easier than the cheap route ( still tough! just easier than clp). Or you know pergi la MMU or UUM 4 years jadi lawyer no need qualifying exam tapi got risk la their University probed by council every year, mana tau you study until 2nd year your uni kena struck off from LPA den you become rohingya :/. Alright just my 2cents from a clp student. Disregard my advice if you no plan becoming lawyer, if you want to take llb to go open chicken rice shop or jual Samsung phone, which some of my friends did, den dont torture yourself. Go lakeside taylor study business kao lui, eat high klass food, pagi see sunrise, malam still can zouk, better right?

This post has been edited by wow1wow2: Jun 15 2015, 02:13 PM

UK bar - can become a lawyer in both UK and Malaysia
CLP - only malaysia

apart from being a practising lawyer. i personally feel that UK bar gives you more career opportunities when you're looking for in-house roles

yes. having UK bar definitely gives you more opportunities when you're applying for in-house jobs.
was practising in malaysia for a while.
am in singapore currently. CLP is already useless to me now.

totally agree that CLP is not too easy to pass. a lot of memorising to be done.
during my time. the exchange rate was 7.6. UK bar would have cost me around RM300k including accommodation.

Bro, what career path are you at ? Can share with me here or we take it pm. Thanks.

hi can i ask you how did you transfer from practising in Malaysia to Singapore?

hi. i didn't transfer.
was a bit lazy to take singapore bar so am doing in house role now.