I don't think you should take any such certificate unless you're sure you want to practice in that area. It'll be a waste of time, effort and money. Both O&G and Shipping are niche.

Would be better to concentrate on your LLB and graduate with a good degree. Thereafter, join a good firm that does a wide range of work (or a specialised area if you're certain on your choices) and let them know that you're interested in doing shipping etc. If it is really what you think you want to do, then you may consider taking up relevant courses at that stage.

To become a member of Malaysian Bar, one has to finish his/her law degree in following NZ universities.

What does Gazette mean? I am currently confusing if I should apply to UK universities or NZ universities as I really like NZ very much.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gazette

Means you must finish the degree that leads to LL.B and fulfill extra requirements published by the Government of Malaysia.

What's there to be confuse? If you like NZ very much and it's LL.B program is recognized to practice here, ain't that an obvious choice?

What will be the extra requirements? Are them listed down in advance or the related Government department will check with you after finishing LL.B program?

Yup! One thing that attracts me for pursing in NZ is their living environment and ethnics. Plus CLP and the long-going process to be a barrister in UK and Wales are exempted.

You can contact the Bar council to double check what extra requirement that's needed.

We can't be sure all the time, anyways.

You do know, it's not easy to become a Barrister in UK/Wales n etc right?

How much effect does the optional modules have on your career?

Depending on your pathway, little to none at all?

After A-levels, I enrolled into UK transfer degree program and subsequently completed Certificate in Legal Practice.

May i know is it true that A-LEVEL is hard? and can anyone rate the difficulty of A -LEVEL? all my brother is prevent me from take A-Level because they say even their friend is having a hard time to score it. I need an advice. Everyone (my father and my brothers ) told me that i`m not qualified to take A-Levels because it hard. I just wondering with SPM 6A4B is it still not enough?.. They all put me in pressure like saying all negative thing about how i am not excellent student. It really turned down my passion to study but can anyone tell me exactly WHAT CAN I DO ? i have financial problem and it seem like A-Level is cheap but they think i cant do it. Anyone please help me!!!!

May i know is A-Level hard? Because i would like to take it and it seem like my final choice.. any tips that you can suggest to me? i would like to take a-level for law

Thanks for your reply. Was it 2+1 or 1+2 programme ?

Couldn't decide between Cardiff and Sheffield.
Any suggestions?

A levels was a walk in the park in my experience. Just study hard and consistently. If people work from 9-5pm, you study from 9-5 pm, and maybe at night too.

The trick to A levels, is not through rote memory work, but in using your head to tackle the problems.

Compared to what Law school and now, the BPTC is throwing at me, I think the amount of work I put into A level exams in a month is what I do in a week. Hopefully this strained comparison would give you an idea as to what it's like.

My advice though, do not ever shun hard work and challenges.

Cardiff. Unless you like the outdoors. Sheffield is in the middle of Peak District, fantastic hiking, cycling and climbing district imho.

Academically I can't help you.

silwen,
Can you share your route in L.LB leading to BPTC ? Thanks.

is it fresh graduate? how is the performance? par-up with other graduates? thought MMU exemption of CLP is actually a qualified one..will be examined every 2 years..

shipping is rather niche,but O&G and arbitration is very prospective.especially the diploma in int arb,even the demand in malaysia not high,but numbers of certified arbitrators(MIARB) are around 35 persons only...

jst my 2 cents~

hard?
i used 9 months to finish the course,60 percents of my time working as part timer,only start study 3 months prior to exam...managed to get CCB.The thing is A-LEVEL is not like our usual exam in secondary school,it required a lot of critical analysis and thinking,and also it required a relatively high standard of english standard compared with secondary spm or pmr..

but it depends on what subject you took,rumours said that MATHS are easier,if u know chinese,you could take the chinese paper or chinese literature..(their standard is like primary school for me..=.=)..coz it doesn't matter what subject you took,as long as the result is up to the required for enrolling in degree..i took chinese,law and business studies~

since you are in this thread,implying you wanted to take LLB in future,LAW and english literature will be my recommended must take subject,coz A LEVEL law covered half of your first year subjects, and one of your second year subjects,even though it is just basic,but it could help a lot in understanding...ENG lit,why? coz it train you to read piles or piles of books,poem and increase your language level (implying you are a typical ordinary spm school leaver),having a good command in english really could ease your language barrier and burden a lot..i know coz i suffered and went through it by hardway...

This post has been edited by wong6516: May 10 2013, 09:45 PM

I wanted to ask what can we do,if in a situation of passed LLB but still not yet finish CLP?
coz I am facing some financial constraint after finish LLB,and in need to gather some money to cover up my cost and expenses to study CLP,is it possible to full time working for one year and study back again CLP later? or better,working while studying?

From what advised from some of my senior,the only way to earn money with a single LLB cert is to became a lecturer,but subject to the result,only 2:1 and above is likely to be employed..other than that,the LLB without CLP is just a piece of plain paper with your name on it.. even worst if got 2:2 and below,it will be like a piece of toilet paper ...no offence,but that is what my seniors told me..

I was wondering about this too.. and whether its possible to work in private sector, dealing with legal procedures in law firms etc if we only have LLB and no CLP. Would appreciate if anyone can give their input

This post has been edited by vanessv: May 10 2013, 10:33 PM

i could clear your doubt on this,some of my friends manage to get position as legal clerk,but i would say it highly depending on your social network...coz almost,99 percents of my friends got those position by ways of father's company,father's friend's company,and etc...in normal situation wise,i think it is possible but...unlikely...

coz malaysia law and uk/nz/aus law has huge differences in procedural...

This post has been edited by wong6516: May 10 2013, 10:42 PM

Legal clerk means they do not step into court but only do legal paperwork etc is it? Is their pay very low? And it is not the type of job they are planning to stick to for the rest of their career right?

And about the differences in legal procedures, do you mean that employers prefer those with knowledge of Malaysian law?Thanks