Why not?

My frens has a Law degree, took a 2 year hiatus and work for HSBC before leaving to London to pursue BPTC.

Thou I am not really sure how much of his works are related to laws, but generally, you could, work.

Being a paralegal, yes.

Going to court, nope.

Legal Clerk gets paid around 1,5k ~ 2,5k depending on how thick your cables are....

Best to say, if you only have LLB and no CLP, try to obtain a sponsor for you to finish CLP

This post has been edited by chiahau: May 11 2013, 12:20 AM

yup,paralegal..pay i would quote chiahua reply,depends on how thick your cables are....if you could serve like karpal singh,probably you prospect is better than an ordinary lawyer..

for paralegal i think so,but not for lawyers..in my opinion,the strength of overseas law graduates is language,english especially and also quality or performance or way of analysis...the weakness will be sucks in BM and lack of knowledge in malaysia law procedure or vise versa if public graduates.Again this rather subjective,a person could possibly master both languages,and have wide ranges of legal knowledge...

Be in mind that,in malaysia lower court probably use malay as the main official language,so you could see a lot of chambee actually work as a translator in law firms when chambering..

no other options other than sponsors?....it is kinda hard thou,there are lots of graduate every year..working in HSBC for banking? are ur friend having other qualification rather than only LLB?

This post has been edited by wong6516: May 11 2013, 12:38 AM

Just LLB.

Now pursing BPTC and another professional qualification all the way

A levels- 3 sciences and math
LLB- just trolled around and didn't study much. I went cycling, climbing and running. Saw the sights and read some non-law related matters throughout the year.
Got into the BPTC- now it's tough stuff. Hope to pass it.

I note that I was relaxed and active through A levels, being social and active.
Uni was a little harder; reading was wide and deep, never had time to finish everything so I had to pick and choose my focuses in studying. I behaved more reclusively. I do recall regularly running about 40km a week though, so that consumed quite a lot of time and energy. Had an injury, gave up running and took up cycling and did about 100+km a week of it. You can imagine I am not the most focused of students.

As for the BPTC, intellectually it's not massively challenging but the work is voluminous. It's a very hands on course and I am enjoying it thoroughly.

In terms of hours of work per week, A levels 30-40 hours.
Uni- up to about 50 or so hours, got away with 35-40 most weeks and about 60 during exam periods.
BPTC- 60 hours a week consistently; no holidays. Hardest thing I have done to date.

If work for the next 40 years is like the BPTC is in terms of having to daily absorb new material and law, I'll could foresee burn out. Even my tutors who are part time judges find the course fairly demanding.

Hope this gives you some sort of gauge.

I would concur with you on the matter of having to use Malay as a medium. Frankly, it's something many struggle with in transition. The lack of knowledge is easily remedied. Analytical ability however, is more of a gift, shall we say, less nurture and more nature in that.

Having to refamiliarise with myself with malay however, is a challenge one has to accept and in all hope, master; frankly though, language is not my forte.

Thanks for the insight. You did all A level, L.LB in London ? Is it difficult to get a place for BPTC ?

Was told that A level Law is a soft subject, therefore do not take it if one wants to take L.LB ?

chiahau,
Which other professional course is your friend pursuing ? Thanks.

Does the wages from your part time work enough to cover your stay and studies over there ? Thanks.

Pardon, I don't mean work, I meant studies = work. If you have time to work proper, you're looking at some really tough time. However, I do know people who work and they did ok, no time for hobbies though.

I decided to do my A levels in KL and went on to do my undergraduate degree in the UK.

As for the BPTC, I had 3 offers from the three schools I applied to, 2 of them were in London and one regional. Based on hearsay, this is relatively uncommon; most only get 1 offer. I did my applications in 2 very stressful days (don't leave it to the last minute).

Also, nobody recommends, and it is often discouraged actually, that one do A level Law. Frankly though, I would just go for what I feel most comfortable with in A levels (I did 3 sciences because I knew I was good at that).

soft in the sense of less burdensome and relatively easier subject? dont think so,coz the pass rate is like 60-65 percents only..indeed,if you compare to LLB,there is for sure a huge gap of difference in the depth and wide of the syllabus..but certain topics in alvl actually covered up more than LLB,examples,like civil justice sytem of common law in LLB only cover small part of ADR,but in alvl there is a standalone chapter of it..

so i would say,alvl LAW could gave you a broad concept of what will be facing in LLB,its syllabus covered basic tort,contract,public and common...the only disadvantage is there will be a little bit boring when starting first year,coz everything is like dejavu,keep repeating...

however,for me it is more of a bane than a boon..

discouraged? why said so?

This post has been edited by wong6516: May 11 2013, 11:31 AM

He's branching into Financial side, so it's likely ACCA/ICAEW

Suffice to say that it is not difficult to get a place into BPTC in the UK so long as you meet the requirement ? Thanks.

For A-levels, i wouldnt think it is necessary for you to take law. My opinion is that you may still take more non-law subjects. Firstly, it enhances your general knowledge; secondly, once you started LL.B, its going to be law all the way. A-levels wouldnt be difficult, just go ahead!

Anything is easy when you surpassed the requirements.

It's whether they want to accept your money or not

That is probably more untrue than it is true. I do know of people who, despite getting the required results, didn't get a place, equally vice versa.

Also, do not be fooled into thinking that a 2:2 will suffice. If your predicted results are below 2:1, you're just not getting in. You could get unlucky in the exams and get a 2:2 but if you already have an offer, you're fine.

I was told by one of the providers that if they thought the student will only get a 2:2, they won't make an offer.

Also, I suspect and do believe that a significant chance depends on your referees and your admissions essays. Believe me, they read your application.

Nevertheless, given that most applicants have a place, I should think it's not difficult.


This post has been edited by silwen: May 12 2013, 01:53 AM

Relating to the post on why it's discouraged- I recall a lecturer saying about half a decade ago that it's because A level law tends to distort the idea of what the LLB offers. It's more academic, and there are more discussions on the matter of the law and the philosophy behind it; the lecturer thought that the A level law was all about rote memory work. Their words, not mine. I merely parrot what I have heard.

It's considered a soft subject, I believe, because ti does not require the same amount academic and intellectual ability to do well in, otherwise stated, not as challenging as the traditional subjects.

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