This is why I fully support the decision to avoid China stocks listed here.

For change of listed company names, refer this link: http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed...change-of-name/

Miss me ah?

You dream of what stock?

Market hot hor .....

So many words of wisdom nowadays.

Trading on MAS-OR makes no sense for people like me leh.
I am not smart enough.

Of course many will trade it.



If you do not know and understand yourself and know what's good and what's not good for yourself, better not touch the stock market.

Of course many are more than willing to talk big about their winnings.

I read someone boasting their stock in their portfolio goes up many hundred percentage.
They minus the dividends from their stock cost.

This is so wrong.
If one keep subtracting these dividends, their stock cost will be zero!

How many percentage gain will that be then?

People love to boost their own ego.

MAS-OR.
I wonder if people know when the OR stop trading.
I wonder if people know what happens next.

Hantu lu.

MAS-OR 7 sen only.
One time trade, trade how many?
1000 shares meh?
10000 shares?

10000 MAS-OR can buy, how many many many MAS shares?
How much more money needed?

Must learn to see Open A Bit...

We can only make what our two hands can make.

You think everyone so terror to buy/sell at every one bid meh?

Hantu banyak here, I scare scrare of their flying daggers.

My only tipsy to give is ....

Oh, it must be you that minus out dividends received from the cost of shares.

I, purposely left out the name because I was against this method.
It's just a wrong way because when ONE minus out the dividends from the cost of shares, it only inflates the percentage gain for the stock.
After x many years, the cost of the share purchased will be zero.
How then does one calculate the percentage gain from a share that costs zero?
It's simply a self ego boosting exercise.

if no like read long message, put me on the ignore list lor.
Then no need to ask next, what. haha!

If you insist this is correct, carry on posting your wrong views.

I now go look see stock market and if I no reply you, please don't complain why I take so long.

Only in share market, there is no right or wrong?

Market slowed....

Now got time, plenty of time. Sorry to keep you waiting.

Buy share at 1.00
Share price now 1.50 and you sell at 1.50.
Dividends received for x years is 40 sen.

What's the gain?

Gain = Sell price + dividends - buy price = 1.50 + 40 - 1.00 = 90 sen.

Percentage gain = Gain / buy price = 90 sen / 1.00 = 90%.

Using EGO boosting method by deducting dividends from cost of share.

Gain = Sell price - cost of share.
Cost of share = 1.00 - 40 sen = 60 sen.
Gain = 1.50 - 60 sen = 90 sen.

Percentage gain = Gain / cost of share = 90 sen / 60 sen = 150%.


One method shows 90% gain.
One method shows 150% gain.



No right no wrong?

Other scenario.

Cost of shares = 1.00.
Company gives 10 sen shares each year.

Using deducting dividends method.
After 10 years, cost of shares = 1.00 - (10 years x 10 sen) = 1.00 - 1.00 = 0.

Question? How to count percentage gain on year 10?
Can we divide by zero?

Next question. Year 11. ( Long term investing hor)
Total dividends now = 1.10.
Cost of shares = 1.00
How to account this new cost at year 11?
Cost of shares become negative?



Too long jor ....

Care to explain why based on the example.



What's the gain? And what's the percentage gain?

My method

Gain = Sell price + dividends - buy price = 1.50 + 40 - 1.00 = 90 sen.

Percentage gain = Gain / buy price = 90 sen / 1.00 = 90%.

Despite being a trader, I do keep a record of my dividends and if I want to review my performance, I will ADD the dividends to my gain.

Yes, the % will be different.

My original statement that started all these...

Of course, making money is all the matters.

Have you ever wonder why Insider Asia do like this? Ie not show actual % gain over the years.

Answer.... They want their portfolio to look good!