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 how bad is proton?, persona users,preve users come in

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post Apr 3 2013, 11:29 AM

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agree with most of u. These dumbass thinks driving cheap cars = low class/poor

even my bro in law have this mentality. Always look down on drivers of protons n peroduas. Expecting them to give him way driving his daddy's mercedes
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post Apr 3 2013, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(munky @ Apr 3 2013, 11:29 AM)
agree with most of u. These dumbass thinks driving cheap cars  = low class/poor

even my bro in law have this mentality. Always look down on drivers of protons n peroduas. Expecting them to give him way driving his daddy's mercedes
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cheap car, drives home to a mansion
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expensive car, drives home to a rented lot

sometimes we are forced to juggle where is our priority.
some ppl maybe spend 80% of their lives inside their car, then ok la.

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post Apr 3 2013, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 3 2013, 11:14 AM)
Sometimes is not about status. It is incredibly aggravating when other people thinks you are stupid for buying what you bought, when you know they dunno jack about cars, especially your own family.

When I bought a Saga, my family ask me why I don't buy Myvi ("Toyota ma"). When I buy Fiesta, they ask me why I don't buy Vios ("TOYOTA MA"  vmad.gif ). Apparently, the problem was not why I bought a Proton, it was why I didn't buy a Sushi  doh.gif
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Hm, sushi is delicious. biggrin.gif

I have been able to convince the relatives of my/our choice. But yes, it is not so easy.

What car you drive does have an impact on your image. Audi drivers tend to be seen as highway bullies, Mercedes drivers are uncles. BMW drivers tend to be ah bengs, especially older modified models (316i with M badge laugh.gif ). Toyota means not so rich uncles, the very very boring kind. Skoda drivers are sometimes seen as smart, seems like business men like them as it shows they are smart, since they bought a VW/Audi for less.

Anyway I don't see much point in owning properties. My two best earning friends are renting only. While they may be able to buy a property, it does not make any sense. They may be moving soon again, not having properties makes you more flexible. Pack things, go to the next job...

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Apr 3 2013, 11:56 AM
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post Apr 3 2013, 11:54 AM

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buying expensive car is useless for me, i drive kancil also more than enough, imagine driving from home to office belum sempat shift to 4th gear dah sampai office d. spend only 15min in car daily, better use extra money to invest
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Apr 3 2013, 11:54 AM)
Audi drivers tend to be seen as highway bullies.
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Bullies? Really? Maybe unintentional. Because due to DRL, easily seen closing in fast from rear-view mirror.

QUOTE(kadajawi @ Apr 3 2013, 11:54 AM)
Skoda drivers are sometimes seen as smart, seems like business men like them as it shows they are smart, since they bought a VW/Audi for less.
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Proton say the same thing... well, almost. 'Smart guys get Inspira' sweat.gif
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post Apr 3 2013, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Apr 3 2013, 08:29 AM)
i do agree that there are many more car manufacturer that are better than proton, but proton is much more better than some other brand
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post Apr 3 2013, 02:04 PM

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we are mostly men in here (car forum)
in the ladies' forum, they talk about buying LVs and Pradas.
and to us, why pay 10k for a tiny handbag when the 10k can be spent elsewhere? lol
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post Apr 3 2013, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(reshbala @ Apr 3 2013, 01:56 PM)
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QUOTE(ironfolic @ Apr 3 2013, 10:43 AM)
This is so true. I bought my Inspira and most of my friend told me why waste so much money on a proton  cry.gif  They dont even bother is a rebadge car or the parts from mitsubishi.  doh.gif  All they see is a no class milo tin proton local car.  rclxub.gif
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Yeah true, the inspira technical spec is far away from the cheap toyota(s), and the only thing is the car badge with a Proton logo, and rather buy a lower spec car just because it carry a sushi brand, hmmm... like ppl has no knowledge on good food and they just know they wanna buy sushi.. doh.gif

QUOTE(ironfolic @ Apr 3 2013, 11:16 AM)
Yeah! Guess ur right  doh.gif Should have bought a RR with 9 years loan when I am just paying this for 4 years loan  cry.gif    Guess my friend dont even bother of showing their status that bought those jepun car with 9 years loan and alwaz hutang credit cards  thumbup.gif
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I rather to spare some to spend others, as long as the car ok for me is enough, don't need to pay like 60-70% of my salary every month just because of "face" issue but hutang a lot and you need to work until no pencen day.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(azfamy @ Apr 3 2013, 01:45 PM)
Bullies? Really? Maybe unintentional. Because due to DRL, easily seen closing in fast from rear-view mirror.
Proton say the same thing... well, almost. 'Smart guys get Inspira' sweat.gif
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Different market... in Germany it's like that, maybe because Audis are popular company cars, and the drivers of those cars are typically routined drivers that drive quite fast (I'd say usually 160-220) and they can safely do so, most of them have great timing and judgement and only brake when they really have to, in the hope that the slow car on the fast lane is intimidated to make way before the faster driver has to lose speed), and they feel entitled to do so. So basically you are on the fast lane, and in no time there is suddenly a Audi right behind you with that big nose and the DRLs, flashing his headlights, maybe keeping a 1-4 meter distance at 150 km/h. That's the typical Audi driver laugh.gif





(BMW drivers are just as bad though).

There's a term in Germany... translates to overtaking prestige. Basically how likely is it that others give way on the highway. Drive a Toyota Yaris/Vios, people will just ignore you, pull out in front of you, won't give way. Drive an Inspira and they are much more likely to give way (well, Lancer lah...), Porsche and Ferrari are best of course, and big Mercs, BMWs, Audis, ... Maybe that's why German cars tend to look rather mean and agressive from the front. A friend was constantly ignored in his Toyota Aygo, can be quite dangerous. Since he is driving a Merc the problems are gone. Simply because people expect him to go fast. If they see a cute city car they think he's driving slow. There was the owner of a slightly modified first generation Opel Corsa A (80s B segment hatchback), top speed is 360+ (road legal laugh.gif ), but it's dangerous to drive the car fast according to the owner because everyone underestimates his speed.

Hm... if I have 10k to spend... I can get a speaker. biggrin.gif But a bit tight for two...

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post Apr 3 2013, 04:14 PM

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In Malaysia... many Myvi and Wiralution drives act like Audi drivers in German...
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post Apr 3 2013, 04:22 PM

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sorry to say but most of people here driving protong or local cars feel butthurt.im not against any local cars.its just the fact that no matter how u upgrade,higher specs or better specs,as long as u drive a local badge,its still consider low class in the eyes of most people.
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QUOTE(Darkcity212 @ Apr 3 2013, 04:22 PM)
sorry to say but most of people here driving protong or local cars feel butthurt.im not against any local cars.its just the fact that no matter how u upgrade,higher specs or better specs,as long as u drive a local badge,its still consider low class in the eyes of most people.
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Car is just a car. I don't feel people that drive a Vios is more classy compare to people that driving Preve and Inspira.
The one who keep thinking like that is a nerd who no nothing about car, wimmiz or old people.
Local car can consider as entry level and budget car anyway. So yea, i would agree it look low class car compare to other expensive car like BMW and Merz car. But who cares. Different people got different priority in their life. nod.gif

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post Apr 3 2013, 10:21 PM

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Any model before Waja are consider shit chassis cars (I own a Promitsuwira). Waja generation, Proton have improve on safety abit by better harder chassis but lacking more airbags and other safety aspects).

Build quality from last time till now for interior or exterior, as usual, crappy plastic / moulding with cheap mountings.

Engine wise, untill Waja 4G18 engine you can expect good reliable engine but it's Proton using local stuff to reduce cost making them shitty. Campro CPS / IAFM engine? Never like it, TAKPRO langsung. CFE can see improvements but electronically it's still got loads of fault but can see them trying to be better.

Design? Copycat most of the time except Exora and new gen Saga BLMs and FLXs. Pervert also copy Forte and Audi abit.

Cannot say much about Proton, since cheap2 stuff being used you cannot blame QC all the time but still Proton is moving forward beside rebadging cars.

Actually those people who drive Proton consider themselves Mitsu owners like me. You jelly? Toyota, Honda, Nissan and Perodua owners are still Perodua owners despite they use Toyotas and Daihatsu parts or design (Building cars people first? Crap tagline there, if people first than it should be cheaper but still no?)

Wow, a Proton fanboy here?
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post Apr 4 2013, 12:28 AM

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especially those wiralution or myvians who want to race.i just give way cos its really no class to race with cars like that.especially if they win with their pimped out engine they just feel great for themself where else i feel sorry for them if they got crashed
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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 3 2013, 11:14 AM)
Sometimes is not about status. It is incredibly aggravating when other people thinks you are stupid for buying what you bought, when you know they dunno jack about cars, especially your own family.

When I bought a Saga, my family ask me why I don't buy Myvi ("Toyota ma"). When I buy Fiesta, they ask me why I don't buy Vios ("TOYOTA MA"  vmad.gif ). Apparently, the problem was not why I bought a Proton, it was why I didn't buy a Sushi  doh.gif
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Like this, by the time you can buy GT-R, they, "Why don't buy Toyota maa". Nissan badge, not that good laugh.gif
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QUOTE(durianpuff @ Apr 3 2013, 11:41 AM)
cheap car, drives home to a mansion
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expensive car, drives home to a rented lot
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This sight so common where I live. Come to Kelantan. I can show you mansions, but outside house only got kancil, sometimes kapcai. Also, the more rural you go, the bigger the house.

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post Apr 4 2013, 03:02 AM

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i own a persona.. problems with proton car is.. the service is unprofessional than perodua and a bit expensive.. the time consumed to service a car is about 2 hours + while perodua only 1 hour fix.. persona dashboard always making small irritating sound, the power window shaking and slow when exposed to excessive amount of sun .. the rubber used around the door is cheapskate .. just small2 problem that proton ignored for a long time.. no improvement.. other than that.. the handling is quite good and it is affordable for a sedan car..
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QUOTE(Darkcity212 @ Apr 4 2013, 12:28 AM)
especially those wiralution or myvians who want to race.i just give way cos its really no class to race with cars like that.
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So which car have enough class to race you with?
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QUOTE(Darkcity212 @ Apr 4 2013, 12:28 AM)
especially those wiralution or myvians who want to race.i just give way cos its really no class to race with cars like that.especially if they win with their pimped out engine they just feel great for themself where else i feel sorry for them if they got crashed
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that is the driver not the car doh.gif

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