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 ** Google Nexus 4 Official Thread V8 **, Stock Android's Awesomeness!

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post Apr 1 2013, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(grey_m45k @ Apr 1 2013, 10:11 AM)
walao , last night got dream accidentally drop my nexus from 6th floor...  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(grey_m45k @ Apr 1 2013, 10:18 AM)
broke into two mann! lucky it just a dream!  laugh.gif
laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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The dream will come true tonight by 11.59PM brows.gif
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post Apr 2 2013, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(NicholasFake @ Apr 1 2013, 11:03 PM)
Having a serious battery drainage issue here.

Currently using AOKP rom and Franco Kernelr86

Morning charged 100% and left it idle for around 45 mins because I drive to work, in this 45 mins it drains off like 5-6%. I confirmed ended all those heavy apps(Facebook,twitter,chrome etc etc).

Any solutions ?
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Could be that your phone can't get a deep sleep. Install Better Battery Stats and find out which is the reason of wake lock. Also try Franco r111 instead of 86.
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post Apr 2 2013, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(olygopoly @ Apr 2 2013, 08:11 AM)
How to know our phone have a good deep sleep 0r a very disturbing sleep

According to my trickster my deep sleep is 52%. is it good ?
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I use BBS to check for partial wakelocks, other wakelocks and CPU states to ensure that my phone is having Deep Sleep when it should.

Hard to judge yours as I don't know the usage pattern of yours, but the easiest way to test is when you are sleeping and not using the phone; check BBS the next morning and see if any Partial/Other Wakelocks with long duration are holding your phone from having a Deep Sleep and that'll usually be the cause.
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post Apr 2 2013, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(Calex @ Apr 2 2013, 08:04 PM)
Of course, I molest customize it as much as I can  laugh.gif

Sifu polarzbearz should remember those homescreen madness days  brows.gif  tongue.gif

P.S How do you tag a person?  doh.gif
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brows.gif Yeah. I was inspired to customise my phone's look instead of sticking to the stock's one after looking at your customisations @ DHD last time. But eventually got lazy customising mainly because of the ROM's flashing where I'll have to redo everything or most of the works again doh.gif

Gotta enjoy customising N4 now on monthly basis since I don't have to flash ROMs anymore tongue.gif
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post Apr 2 2013, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Apr 2 2013, 08:46 PM)
are you using the native dialer? @@ stock dialer is the MOST annoying thing because it does not have t9.  doh.gif
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Sadly yes cry.gif
Tempted to switch to custom ROMs at one point due to this doh.gif I still don't understand why wouldn't Google implement it in stock dialer. I mean, even HTC Sense-based ROMs have it cry.gif
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post Apr 3 2013, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 3 2013, 09:56 AM)
huh? means now confirm must get plan??

oh noooo.........

btw, i think if later terus got stcok for no contract, i will straight get la. but i think susah laaaaa
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QUOTE(IMfae_ @ Apr 3 2013, 10:22 AM)
yup, you have to sign-up for contract one

Nexus 4 Price: RM 1169.00
Upfront Payment (Rebate: RM 10.00 x 24 months): RM 240.00
DG Smart Plan 58 (Advance Payment for Plan): RM 58.00
An early termination fee (inclusive of administration fee): RM200
Amount Payable:  RM 1667.00
might as well get the free contract from other seller like hotspot in Low Yat Plaza for RM1649  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Or from SenHeng @ RM1649, with 2 years warranty (1 year LG, 1 year under SenHeng)
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post Apr 3 2013, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Apr 3 2013, 12:56 PM)
sianzzz.....la like that

i not based in KL...susah la nak go lowyat

PS: eh just noticed, means i can sign for plan, then cancel it early?

so total RM1667? seems still ok la, not much diff from hotspot seller
means need go penang liao. wonder they have stock anot =.='
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Maybe give senheng penang a call before heading there laugh.gif
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post Apr 3 2013, 06:16 PM

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Have anyone here encountered this before? Google Services taking up most percentage in usage. rclxub.gif first time kena since yesterday night, no I what caused it.
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post Apr 3 2013, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Apr 3 2013, 06:38 PM)
I kena last time. After searched awhile, it's most likely like media server. Just let it be for awhile and it will be gone.  @@
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This weird issue had been haunting me since yesterday rclxub.gif
Will try to leave it there then.. As when I checked BBS there wasn't real any wake locks. It seems to be really draining when I'm using the device (consuming more than usual)
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post Apr 3 2013, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Apr 3 2013, 02:55 PM)
Kraits and bionic optimization speed up 2 things in your phone:

1. string / memory operation. these operation including string copy, memory copy, compare, etc. even a simply file copy uses these operation. all these implemented in a library known as bionic library in android. it's similar to libc in pc. this is the bionic optimization.

2. after Qualcomm introduce krait core (since S4), they release new code that allow you to use extended instructions that can only be found in Krait core to do some math operation. by implementing these new code, some math function such as sin(), cos(), etc will be faster. Many heavy graphic app uses math functions.

What custom ROM/kernel developer do is to get these code from Code Aurora, and implement in their ROM/kernel then recompile it. You may not notice performance improvement if you just swipe homescreen, etc but if you do benchmark, you will see a huge improvement.

For example, before any optimization, most N4 getting like 17k Antutu score. After Bionic optimization around you will get around 19k. You should see huge improvement in the RAM score, in this case 3274. Also check out the CPU floating point score, 2139, in this case, not optimized yet.

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Now, if you optimize the math library with Krais extended instruction, you should see huge improvement in CPU floating point score, in this case 4182. With both optimized, you see a jump from 17k Antutu score to 21k, around 30% improvement at the same CPU speed.
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Good read. Will add this post to the first page if you don't mind thumbup.gif
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post Apr 3 2013, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(Decky @ Apr 3 2013, 06:39 PM)
Hi guys.

I'm planning to get a new phone soon and I've been a big fan of Android after I replaced my iPad retina with the nexus 7. Although I do miss the speed and screen resolution of the iPad, I still love the stock android feel and how much I can customize my tablet (for cheap as well!)

That being said, I'm on a tight budget and the Nexus 4 fits in well. I know that the HTC One and Samsung's S4 is on the horizon locally, but I'm pretty sure that they're going to be much more expensive and I am not a big fan of touchwiz.

I have a few questions though. Is it more worth it to get the phone with Digi's RM88 plan (RM 920 device only) since I'm planning to subscribe to a data plan. Or will it actually be cheaper if I buy the phone itself and a separate plan?

Also, are apps on my nexus 7 (HD widgets, etc.) useable on my nexus 4? or do I have to buy them again?

And is the screen and battery performance decent from an average Malaysian standpoint? I've read that 318 PPI and the HTC One's resolution isn't very noticeable in real life. And I personally prefer IPS displays over Samsung's AMOLED.

I'm very worried about battery life because the last time I owned a smartphone like this (excluding my current Blackberry), my battery always died very quickly and didn't make it past a day of usage. Can the nexus 4 last at least 12 hours with 3G/EDGE always on with moderate usage?
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QUOTE(Decky @ Apr 3 2013, 06:59 PM)
Is that good?

My whole family uses the iPhone 4S and I see that they have to charge their devices halfway through the day. That's a concern to me because I usually spend my time in college where I'm unable to charge my phone (because my classmates occupy all the charging ports with their iPhones)

I guess you can say that my usage in college is basically the occasional text message, whatsapp, twitter and FB with some web browsing. I don't watch alot of videos. I plan to use the phone as an MP3 replacement though.

Is a powerbank reliable?
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QUOTE(Decky @ Apr 3 2013, 07:23 PM)
Hmm, my parents wouldn't allow me to sign up for a prepaid plan as they're always worried about "emergencies" and what not situations. I also am rather lazy to reload all the time haha.

What if I want digi's smart plan 88 + buying the phone itself without a contract ? The upfront payment of Digi's nexus 4 bundle seems to be 1.4k ++  Also, a noob question: if I'm unhappy with the phone after a while, will I be breaking the contract by selling it whilst still using the plan? Quite blur with these stuff.
Thanks for the feedback on the battery life. I also am a very careless person, so I use an otterbox for my blackberry and despite multiple drops, it's still as good as new. To my horror I found out that Otterbox doesn't make cases for the Nexus 4. Are there any good cases for the Nexus 4 to prevent drop damage? I wouldn't risk a beauty like this naked doh.gif
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1) Contract bundle VS off-contract & dataplan separately: This will entirely depending on your usage. If you do not use your phone to make calls that much and mainly uses SMS, it might be better off purchasing device separately and subscribe other telco's data plan (e.g. Maxis or U-Mobile) as their speed are usually better as compared with DiGi's. If you have SKMM Rebate (RM200), by all means subscribe via DiGi and terminate it / use the provided bundle plan. Other factors might be affecting your decision, though.

2) Battery Life: The battery life, although isn't the best or the perfect ones; it is still impressive enough to serve our usage. These will usually depend on our usage tho. My usage pattern is similar of yours with 3G data enabled the entire day except @ Home, minus the Music Listening part. For more info / specifics on this, you can use the keyword "battery life" and perform a search in this thread and all previous threads as many users have posted their battery life with their usage pattern.

3) Further details on DiGi contract: There are currently no "Zero Contract" bundle by DiGi and the only way is to terminate it and pay penalty, totalling up to RM1647 to own the device (or RM1447 with SKMM rebate). Specifics can be found in the first page. And yes, you can sell it even if you're under contract as long as you continue paying for their service; or terminate it and pay the penalty.

4) Otterbox-alike casings: You might give Acase Superleggera Pro Hybrid dual layer Case a try as billy_overheat is using it IIANM and his review seems to be pretty good, comparable with Otterbox. If you prefer slimmer versions, currently I'm using Diztronic TPU case and I find it satisfying in terms of build quality (quite hard IMO), although it wouldn't be able to provide protection as much as an Otterbox (previously used Otterbox Defender and it's a monster thumbup.gif); it's still good enough for me as I got really tired carrying bulky phone.

Hope my 2cents helps! smile.gif
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post Apr 3 2013, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(kennypotatoes @ Apr 3 2013, 08:42 PM)
Hey I wonder on our phone upper left corner, there is two DOTs like camera, what is it really for?

Sensor?
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The top-left is an Proximity Sensor whereby the top-right is the front-camera. smile.gif
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post Apr 3 2013, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Apr 3 2013, 08:53 PM)
Is there any screen protector which can reduce the amount of fingerprint?
Even with the bare glass I can still a lot of fingerprints.
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Only Matte screen protectors could really help in reducing fingerprints at the cost of screen clarity (long ago I've used Matte and it really makes the screen to look like crap rclxub.gif)

Most other screen protectors will still attract fingerprints, including the SGP Oleophobic SP which are advertised to reduce smudge/screen protectors. However it's still less visible as compared withg Ultra Crystal's SP.
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post Apr 3 2013, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(azrash @ Apr 3 2013, 09:03 PM)
polarzbearz ultra crystal is a fingerprint magnet. it is quite hard to make it less fingerprint magnet unless you are will to sacrifice clarity (matte sp). the naked glass is definitely better
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Guess it's hardiness vs fingerprints attractiveness tongue.gif

Oleophobic has less visible smudge / prints at the cost of its scratch resistant IIANM. My Oleophobic got (hairline) scratched like hell but my friend's Ultra Crystal has way lesser scratch than mine sweat.gif
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post Apr 3 2013, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(Decky @ Apr 3 2013, 09:40 PM)
Very helpful indeed! thanks.

A little more though...

A friend told me that you can get an AP set for RM1.3k ish. Being a total newbie to the smartphone world (hence why I can't fathom alot of the terms used to describe battery life earlier doh.gif), is original warranty really important?

Speaking of which, is LG Malaysia competent? I've had experiences with brightstar (walking distance from my house) and it was good. would be happy to know if LG Malaysia offers good after market services.
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AP Warranty (usually US Warranty sets) vs Original Warranty (Local LG Malaysia sets).. the main differences are most likely in servicing manufacturer defects (e.g. accelerometer sensor, or motherboard issues, etc).

One thing that have no differences amongst both of them are when your screen is cracked, both are not covered by warranty and costs RM350 to repair (both Local set and AP sets)
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post Apr 4 2013, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(NicholasFake @ Apr 4 2013, 11:53 AM)
I'm trying to solve this issue without going into flight mode.
This r111 has the same problem with r86 when I use, but r53 only drained 7% but performance very laggy.

Any solution to solve battery drainage issue when its sleeping ?
Am using AOKP ROM build 5.
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The best thing is post your BBS log so that others can try to help. No one could really help you without looking at a log or something as battery drainage is very random and really depends on users, settings or apps.

And as with most battery drainage issues during sleep; it's usually caused by device not being able to go into "Deep Sleep" mode (e.g. kernel wakelocks or partial wakelocks preventing it from sleeping)

This post has been edited by polarzbearz: Apr 4 2013, 01:54 PM
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post Apr 4 2013, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Apr 4 2013, 07:13 PM)
Polarbearz, how's your playstore? Still in US mode? Can buy books? @@
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Yup still in US version, haven't tried purchasing tho but should be fine as I have recently purchased app at US price. I think i figured out the reason why it's US for me, could be the market access appI which emulates my sim card to US T Mobile.
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post Apr 4 2013, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(nestahng @ Apr 4 2013, 09:48 PM)
Hi guys,

I found that I'm using the power button alot. Is there any software that can reduce the frequency I use power button? Thanks smile.gif
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PGM Touch Control - swipe to lock / unlock brows.gif
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post Apr 4 2013, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(iceman31 @ Apr 4 2013, 09:31 PM)
it doesnt work anymore  cry.gif
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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Apr 4 2013, 09:55 PM)
tried everything. doesn't work for me. = =
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Did you try to switch your Google Account's country to US (Not Google Plus).

Not sure cause mine still works so far, even after I cleared cache of Google Play Services, Google Play Store, Google Contact Sync (due to the previous weird issue I faced).

p/s: I choose T-Mobile because it's similar with U-Mobile, only one difference in letters tongue.gif
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post Apr 4 2013, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Apr 4 2013, 11:03 PM)
manage to buy books, musics or videos?  hmm.gif
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Nothing attracted me to purchase so far tongue.gif

QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Apr 4 2013, 11:27 PM)
Can you try buying any book? If you made successful purchase please post here.
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