This post has been edited by galaxy_2088: Sep 19 2013, 02:53 AM

like i said, just sharing a diff perspective on gambling. everyone has a yard stick and depends on individuals what is meant by gambling large amounts of cash? to me RM 1k is large amount but to some people one hand of baccarat is RM 10k and some others RM 100k is norm.

to some of us , we figure that business is about golfing and having a few drinks at night clubs to strengthening the relationship. but there are some who figure high end casinos is an alternative to this. example Genting Club, u join this and u have an exclusive club to entertain your guests. and over a few games of baccarat you can mingle and socialize over a bottle of wine or champagne if you like. The Genting Club is actually targeted at corporate individuals.

You can bring your spouse and invite your associates or potential business partners to join the club. if you dont mind, you can pay for their membership fee of RM 20k to smooth things. there is nothing sleazy or unhealthy about Genting Club, its the people who go there, whether they go there to just gamble their lives away or its a place for them to socialise and rub shoulders with the elite.

did u know, the last party organised at Genting Club for its members was Lamborghini night where they play host to the Sg Chapter. The whole entourage of more than 30 cars came to Genting and partied in Genting Club. BTW i believe the current Ms Malaysia is ambassador of Genting Club.

Genting Club against the rest of Genting Casinos. This is exclusive to Genting Club members and Platinum car members. Unllike Maxims (formerly Elite Club), F&B in Genting Club is chargeable. There is a modern stage and theater seating arrangement to enjoy the band and a fusion cafe at the back. To hard core gamblers, the environment is too dark and too noisy. u even have to pay for food (they are accustomed to getting great food for free).

at Genting Club, the chairs at the gaming tables are not comfortable for sitting long periods of time. the most important element i figure, there are less runners in GC. Runners in VIP n Maxims that offers insurance at baccarrat tables turns the place into a night market. In GC, the management strictly forbids runners from doing insurance at baccarat tables.


we can never stop anyone from gambling, but hope that they view and change their style of play into something social and change the mindset that the euphoria is not form gaming but from the social status and group activities in high end casinos.

am here to share info and discuss ideas, not to discuss individuals.

How can 1k be a large amount if you're in the Genting Club If you're not in, how you know so much ? Btw what's the condition to join Genting Club ? Platinum card AND 20k ?

min bet at baccarat in GC rm1k. GC condition pay rm20k but only RM 1k is admin fee. RM 19k can take out as NN chips. Just pass to friend to roll.. get back money liao. (i tell my friend i will bet on his behalf everytime he wants to up his bet. use my chips so i can get back cash chip haha)

for RM 1k what u get is one night stay and limo u genting. invites t events. during events u can invite one friend wh is just a regular genting card member. usually during events free flow drinks.

gamblers are always talking about odds. how to increase odds? play in GC and Maxims where u can have free games, meaning if you cant see the trend, just keep ask the dealer deal without putting any bets. continue until trend comes again.

if u dun like , u can even ask them start new shoe when u feel the current shoe doesnt offer u any good trends. can ask for change dealer as well, or ask for gal dealers only.

from the start i mentioned, i dun really gamble. just follow people who gamble big.

Sharing an interesting fact

if all of us sit at the same baccarat table and all bet on same side. meaning one buy player, all buy player. vice versa. end of every shoe, someone will win and some one will lose. a lot of people still cant comprehend this.

you have good understanding of gaming and the pit falls.

Wow interesting .. so you follow your high roller friend? More questions:

1) Someone with no card or just red card, pay 20k also can join the club?
2) So you mean you're already a member but you only pay 1k because you "sell" your 19K worth of NN chip to your friend with exchange of cash chip so you can cash out?
3) limo to genting is only 1 time or every time ? If everytime then f***ing worth it lo for 1k haha
4) The membership ever expires ? Say you dun go genting for 2 years then what happen? cancel membership ?

Can intro your high roller friend to me ? I don't mind selling him 18.5 for 19k worth of NN chips haha .. the club look high class and always during event like many those freelance amoi

This post has been edited by GymBoi: Sep 19 2013, 04:01 PM

Not sure actual ruling on who qualifies to join. But its targeted at corp people like golf memebership.

There is back door application since they know a manager there.

Room n limo one time. If u high roller u can always accumulate enough points to get limo rides.

Correct. U just have to roll the nn chips one time. U can do it in one day . One mth . Or one year. Up to u.
Sec9nd year onwards put in 10k. Same shit.

i think no need big gamblers la. u guys just help each oher lo. gang up and do for each of u one at a time. sure can one.


This post has been edited by webwithoutwires: Sep 19 2013, 04:58 PM

just evaluating the weak points/loop holes of gambler and the house itself as well as the weak links in their gaming/promo.

majority of the gamblers will have the same experience in time to come. Inner FEAR/instability within in gambling but still want to win back at heart but scare to lose more.

sell to me 18.5k .........185k for 190k NN chip also i can take.
but my advice....dun join if u dun gamble. no point spending 1.5k just for the membership.

everytime when my hand itchy i will join in GCC to see whyseej00 post..... it really helps
btw, where is ppmm n ducky ? long time no see them

1.5k is ok .. but minimum bet 1k is kinda hardcore for me lol ..... 200 300 hundred still ok haha ...

thats why i am here too..

have loads of theory inside y head. trying to get insights from others so that we try not to fall into them oursleves.

everything in life i guess its the same, dont abuse. learn from other people experience rather than having to walk through the urself. save u all the pain and not t mention the money.

hope to share some of my own theory and have feed back and perspectives form others.

just imagine u join sweat club for one year la. haha

PPMM no longer gambling so he didn't join in forum. I still whatsapp him time again

Vamp, come la we go meet nice ppl in rehab

can those NN chip play in any casino area or just at genting club?

any time frame for using the NN chips?

can the NN chip be transfer to other people whereby only the purchaser will be given a white card and must be shown to the dealer upon playing.

using nn chip gp points wont be given

NN chips same as those Casino Rebate Programs used by Genting Players and only can be used in VIP, Maxims, GC and Genting Grand private rooms.

anyone who is on casino rebate program can use those chips. to egt ot teh program, u need to check in RM 75k evrymonth when u open trip. There is 1% rebate on ur rolling.

for this GC memeber , i think they just want to see u roll the 19k urself. the lop hole is get ur friends help lo. i use my chips n their behalf.. as they play cash chip. they dun mind la.. after all 1% of 19k is not much t them. they rather win big.

as long as u hold the chips and dont drop it. its leagal tender in gening as long as they didnt recall the type of chips due to fraud or anything.

u will get too.

think of it as a second level of bonus. if u can roll rm75k a mth, they will gve u additional bonus on the total roll. thats why u hear those players always calling "House Rolling"

if u can roll more than rM 250k a mth there is additional too.

u can view this as better odds for u. in baccarat we alwyas say banker has higher percentage. meaning out of 100 games ard 9 games are tie and banker will win ard 48 games rest is player. and if ur on this program , ur win rate will be 1% higher. haha - dunno if this is correct

have encounter a friend of mine bought a few premium program and share among friends, when distribute the nn chip n play at various individually, the captain ask for the white card and say without the white card cannot play or use the nn chip. unless the captain never notice it.

then the friend want buy more premium package in future it was barred cannot buy anymore same goes for his friend use his friend to buy. reason due to management discretion, unknown reason have to ask top management. think the cctv manage to get them and barred them from abusing the rules and define who is high roller or not

until now the friend never bother to buy the premium program again, got fedup with the management bcos the management lcly.

Alot of rules, the management never tells the buyer, expect the buyer to know everything. even alot of new promotion/programmes, it never tells the customers rules and regulation properly and expect the customer to find out the hard way by themselves. Their marketing always fail.

think in vip those junket nn chip is totally different from those premium program.

those vip nn chip the junket will be at side of the player all the time. calculating n exchanging nn chip. no privacy and tension whereby people calculating and seeing the player gamble. very confuse, side bet here n there like pasar malam shouting odds to the player etc influence is another factor of lossing. the vip premium giving rebate etc

the normal premium program is exchange and the player just go any where in ir room to gamble with the junket following and calculating. less tension and privacy. the normal premium it gives free rooms, free buffet, concert ticket etc

for yr info the monitor recording/displaying trend of those bacarat cannot pakai one. whoever see/follow will sure majority lose compare to those in IR room. their monitoring/tracking of the trends at the monitor is out(modify) and different from those in IR or outer section of casino. very seldom people gamble at vip section bcos cannot see any trends/guidelines like closing eyes/blindly gamble.

the main concern it wants gamblers to tie down their $$ and gamble long and utilise all the nn chip. indirectly will lose in the long run and indirectly buying those free freebies at a high amt

This post has been edited by mlpk: Sep 20 2013, 01:11 PM

ok. share with u

what ur describing is

a) genting have file on all players . the table supervisor will be in charge of inputing player detais, bets , win lose for player ratings

b) now anyone buying in more than rm10k must produce identification. and if u play in VIP they have what is called the perfect bet eletronic system. only seated players will get rating on their bets. if u stand, ur bet is taken as teh seated palyer bet.


Now if ur a cash player not under Junlet or Casina rebate program, then obviously u cant play using those chips. if u need to, they can concert u into those programs and u can use eitehr junket or casino rebate NN chips.

Some players just use cash chip and they have a better cash rebate program.

Just talk to teh Genting guys and gal on the casino floor. they can help u



the pit people dun care, tehy will just reject u and tell u , u cant do this and cant do that.. haha

just live with it