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dvinez
post Mar 25 2013, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(siong630 @ Mar 19 2013, 08:34 PM)
hi everyone, my car is a cheap flx, as you all know the soundproof really sucks, so i am wondering is it worth to spend some money to do the soundproof to the car?
is the effect significant? anyone who has his car soundproofed, do you recommend to others? did you regret? please share your experience, thanks
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 24 2013, 04:44 PM)
you need to be firm and clear on what you want and what you're getting.

let me ask you this, to fully sound proof a car typically cost between rm1k to 10k or so.
any "higher segment" car with DECENT STOCK sound proofing cost between 100-300k and beyond not including a long term high interest rate bank loan.

do you need mathematics lessons to calculate which is cheaper?
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nvh will never on par with higher segment

i am just trying to tell TS that even he is willing to spend much, it will not be on par with those better car.

why are u quoting me, trying to ask me, and trying to be a financial advisor and trying to talk about loan interest?

i dont need mathematics lesson, but u probably need english lesson. please read and understand i) TS question. ii) my answer - before you trying to show your so called pro-ness here.

actually whats wrong with u? butt hurt? just my 2 cents.
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post Mar 25 2013, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(smokey @ Mar 24 2013, 11:37 PM)
i sound proof my BLM doors...did not notice much difference...passing motorbike sound maybe reduced 5%

the noisiest part is still from the firewall and tires...

basic car is basic car...upgrade till max, u still cant make the car feel premium...with all the money spent on upgrading, better get a better car from the beginning
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yup, those claiming soundproof improve this and that by %%%% is really subjective.
unless the expectation is real low, then spending few K for it might be worth.
i have done soundproof on my blm before, there is improvement. but lol, even a stock persona can pawn it upside down.


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post Mar 25 2013, 10:09 AM

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Have helped my colleague done the soundproof on all his Saga FLX 4 doors. It does improve into a lot cabin quietness.

Buying the material online and paying my worker to install it, the cost is very minimal and satisfying.

I have done STP Gold audio package for front doors, while roof/rear doors/floor board material was bought from yohannes and installed with my worker. My Preve is very much a quiet cabin though, cruising happily on the PLUS highway while enjoy the ICE.

Worth it or not? If you ask me, definitely. Just need to do it in the right way.

V12Kompressor did on his Saga, ask for his opinion

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post Mar 25 2013, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(dvinez @ Mar 25 2013, 09:52 AM)
nvh will never on par with higher segment

i am just trying to tell TS that even he is willing to spend much, it will not be on par with those better car.
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here's the thing: NVH improvement can easily exceed a higher segment stock car when done properly.
those jobs will require stripping your car down to the bare metal chassis and slowly apply various materials to them similarly how a luxury car such as BMW/audi/merc would have, and those sorta sound proofing/insulation is definitely not available on supposedly "higher segment" such the 120-160k range c/entry d segment cars.

so what i am saying here is when you are putting down absurd figures (eg: 10k) into sound proofing, you can easily exceed a higher segment (eg: civic/altis being c segment) car despite being a lowly saga.

do look into the matter more before starting your hostilities and playing around with various forum colors smile.gif

QUOTE(dvinez @ Mar 25 2013, 10:01 AM)
i have done soundproof on my blm before, there is improvement. but lol, even a stock persona can pawn it upside down.
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kindly share what was done, where was it done, how much was spent smile.gif

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post Mar 25 2013, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 25 2013, 10:21 AM)
here's the thing: NVH improvement can easily exceed a higher segment stock car when done properly.
those jobs will require stripping your car down to the bare metal chassis and slowly apply various materials to them similarly how a luxury car such as BMW/audi/merc would have, and those sorta sound proofing/insulation is definitely not available on supposedly "higher segment" such the 120-160k range c/entry d segment cars.

so what i am saying here is when you are putting down absurd figures (eg: 10k) into sound proofing, you can easily exceed a higher segment (eg: civic/altis being c segment) car despite being a lowly saga.

do look into the matter before starting your hostilities and playing around with various forum colors smile.gif
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ts ask a question, i stated my opinion.
then someone try to lecture about loan interest for 200k-300k car hmm.gif
so who started it first?


a heavily soundproofed saga can pawn a stock teana in nvh? i dont think so. not even on par with sylphy.

it is just my opinion. no need quote and tell me teana cost 140K. saga + 20K only 60K.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 25 2013, 10:21 AM)

kindly share what was done, where was it done, how much was spent smile.gif
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2 layer door, roof, hood, bonet, wheel arch, dont nearby my house. cant remember total damage but around 3K.

just sharing for fyi, no need advice installer no pro, material cheapo, etc, etc. cheers.gif
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post Mar 25 2013, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(dvinez @ Mar 25 2013, 10:31 AM)
ts ask a question, i stated my opinion.
then someone try to lecture about loan interest for 200k-300k car hmm.gif
so who started it first?
a heavily soundproofed saga can pawn a stock teana in nvh? i dont think so. not even on par with sylphy.

it is just my opinion. no need quote and tell me teana cost 140K. saga + 20K only 60K.

2 layer door, roof, hood, bonet, wheel arch, dont nearby my house. cant remember total damage but around 3K.

just sharing for fyi, no need advice installer no pro, material cheapo, etc, etc.  cheers.gif
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since you're so firm on your opinions, you're free to keep them smile.gif
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post Mar 25 2013, 10:59 AM

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a good sound system is more worth the money biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(durianpuff @ Mar 25 2013, 10:59 AM)
a good sound system is more worth the money biggrin.gif
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diminishing returns - when too much it doesn't make any difference.anyway start to treat your outer fender with quiet tyres.
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post Mar 25 2013, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(siong630 @ Mar 19 2013, 08:34 PM)
hi everyone, my car is a cheap flx, as you all know the soundproof really sucks, so i am wondering is it worth to spend some money to do the soundproof to the car?
is the effect significant? anyone who has his car soundproofed, do you recommend to others? did you regret? please share your experience, thanks
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If you plan to keep the car for long, then you can consider to soundproof it. As some people can just change car every 5 yrs...

Well, noise toleration level is subjective. What others can tahan, you might think that guy is crazy already with such noise... Same like how people like their car to have the strongest bass possible, some just like it simple and nice.

So far, the only regret that I have seen in soundproofing is wrong expectation and also those talk only installer skills.

Your expectation has to be right when sending your car for soundproofed. What to be done, and what sort of a result you can get.

Installer can tell you this and that, and give you a nice %. In the end, what they have done is simply shitty work...

Soundproofing definitely help to reduce NVH, just a matter of how you do it and what sort of results that you are expecting.

Experience installer definitely can tell you more and provide you with better options.
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QUOTE(durianpuff @ Mar 25 2013, 10:59 AM)
a good sound system is more worth the money biggrin.gif
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Sorry, but I would just like to add in.

A good car sound system, definitely will have soundproofing done. Unless your definition of good sound system is those that comes with stock car. smile.gif
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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Mar 25 2013, 12:36 PM)
Sorry, but I would just like to add in.

A good car sound system, definitely will have soundproofing done. Unless your definition of good sound system is those that comes with stock car.  smile.gif
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lol soundproof and ICE tai lou talking here rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(JAYworm @ Mar 25 2013, 01:17 PM)
lol soundproof and ICE tai lou talking here rclxms.gif
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No lar, just sharing experience nia.

The expectation has to be set correctly, and your budget is always the best you can get.
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post Mar 25 2013, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Mar 25 2013, 12:36 PM)
Sorry, but I would just like to add in.

A good car sound system, definitely will have soundproofing done. Unless your definition of good sound system is those that comes with stock car.  smile.gif
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as long can cover the other annoying sounds (like a nagging GF) lol
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QUOTE(durianpuff @ Mar 25 2013, 04:04 PM)
as long can cover the other annoying sounds (like a nagging GF) lol
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is good to have sound proofing for good sound system especially if you travel on highway frequently. The wind & road noise would mask the music.
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QUOTE(durianpuff @ Mar 25 2013, 10:59 AM)
a good sound system is more worth the money biggrin.gif
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Its very easy to tell the difference. Install a decent sound system into your vehicle (have a friend installed those entry level component speaker).

We did soundproof half way and hoop into the car, the sound quality from door left (with soundproof) much more superior than the one without soundproof (door right).

The difference will be much more obvious on those more expensive setup. There are still a lot things for you to explore before come into any conclusion of whether soundproof or good sound system more worth the money.
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post Mar 25 2013, 05:45 PM

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TS probably wanted only some decent sound proof to improve his ride road, rattle and vibration noise.

if not then better move thread for ICE expert to advice for which sound sytem and where to soundproof first. brows.gif

blasting music is good for hiding rattles, squeaks and road noise, even without sound proof done.
if you want quality in your car audio, you need a quality system and then sound proof.
if u want a silent and comfortable car without rattles, vibration or road noise without playing your music in car. i think better keep the money or spend it on better tyre.


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QUOTE(dvinez @ Mar 25 2013, 05:45 PM)
TS probably wanted only some decent sound proof to improve his ride road, rattle and vibration noise.

if not then better move thread for ICE expert to advice for which sound sytem and where to soundproof first. brows.gif

blasting music is good for hiding rattles, squeaks and road noise, even without sound proof done.
if you want quality in your car audio, you need a quality system and then sound proof.
if u want a silent and comfortable car without rattles, vibration or road noise without playing your music in car. i think better keep the money or spend it on better tyre.
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Agree. Before venture into soundproofing, a good or decent tyre has to be considered as well.

Tyre is one of the source that generate a lot of noise.
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post Mar 26 2013, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(durianpuff @ Mar 25 2013, 10:59 AM)
a good sound system is more worth the money biggrin.gif
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both goes hand in hand smile.gif
(yes i have both too)

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