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I was currently deciding which phone to get to replace my Xperia Sola.

Within the budget of RM700-RM1.2K Any suggestion thought? Of course , the lower the better.

I was thinking JiaYu G4 , is it good? And using MTK Processor , quite worry about the performance thought.

Flash stock 4.2 on ZOPO C2 to evo it, Aliyun OS is not so good

I would suggest you get a Nexus 4 if budget isn't an issue since most of MTK6589T phones priced almost the price of Nexus 4 but only few hundred RM cheaper but if you want my suggestion for these chinese phone i agree that JiaYu G4 have really good quality.

Perception of performance is subjective. Depends of which angle you're looking from. If you own a S4 or HTC One, then you may perceive G4's MTK6589 quad as a tad slower.

Since you mention Xperia Sola, I'll use that as a yardstick. Sola manages an Antutu score of 5335 (source) while the current G4 scores approx 13000. Up to you how that's perceived. IMHO aside from heavy gaming, anything with scores of 13000 is good enough for general usage. Anything with significantly higher performance is out of your current budget.

Go to a shop which has G4 in stock. You get to play with the phone a bit before deciding. If it does not meet your expectation, don't buy.

Do share with us the results of your findings.

This post has been edited by BartS: Jul 10 2013, 03:16 PM

JiaYu G4 do have retail in Malaysia? I thought most of them are online seller.

True that most are online sellers. Some do have shops. I bought mine from one of such.

I would like to have Nexus 4 as well but budget don't allow thought. I might save more for XiaoMi M2S i guess.

Thanks for the clarification. One of the + point is that JiaYu has larger capacity of battery which could last me longer as well as i never tried any china phone before and i heard great review from forumer/blog. Which i wish i could give a shot thought. How about iOcean x7?


Im located in Kuching and local shop don't carry these. The phone in EM is much more costy than WM.

so what are cheap chinastock androids that will allow me to root + customize + turn into english phone

are there any upcoming products that people should look forward to?

I have only seen the IOcean X7 once. That was when I was at the shop to buy the G4. Nice looking phone. Relatively cheaper. It was the 2000 mAH battery that puts me off.

If you're into 5" FHDs, then I would suggest you choose among these ..

* Umi X2 Turbo (2500 mAH)
* Zopo C2 (2000 mAH)
* THL W8 Beyond (2000 mAH)

I chose G4 for the following reason:

* 3000 mAH battery

* smaller display 4.7" @720p. My eyesight isn't that great. I am unable to distinguish the benefits between FHD vs 720p. The smaller form factor is easier for one hand operation and a 720p screen requires less power than a FHD.

* I'm not much into chasing after the faster/powerful processors. No matter how fast one proc can be, 3 months later something new comes along and knocks it off it's perch. Currently Qualcom's S800 and Tegra 4 are the kings but there's already news of Mediatek releasing octo cores.

* Finally the main reason is because Jiayu has a track record for reliability and build quality.

Performance wise, I think you wont go wrong choosing any of the above. China phone makers have a simple formula. Take the best phone in the world. Make one that will perform 75-80% as well and then market it for half the price. Simply the best bang for your bucks.

This post has been edited by BartS: Jul 11 2013, 01:04 AM

Not sure what you're talking about. My phone is in English. I can't read Chinese anyway.

Not sure what im asking either... im talking about these china android phones -- naturally i'd assume they will be in chinese.... i'd like to root these phones, set them to english and install my own android.

actually ive never own a smartphone so im not sure what im asking at all

what i would like to do is something like buy a dell notebook and then format it and install my own os on it from the ground up

possible?

Most of the china brand phone come with english language at stock, and depend on whihch model u buying, most of the phone are come with stock android, those lewa OS, aliyun OS, MIUI all are OS based on android, there are still android OS.

The OS changing u mean is like 1st: window XP to window 7 or 2nd: window to linus/MAC OS? If u are talking the 1st then it was like android 2.3 to 4.1/4.1, yes, it is possible depend on any developer work on it.

Comparatively, dell laptops come with a lot of junk that isn't needed. Much too bloated.

In linux terms, if you know Ubuntu/Fedora, that's bloated too. I use gentoo/archlinux which is very bare and minimal. From here, I'd install that applications I desire.

As bare and minimal as possible is what I want if there's such a thing. Also, it's nice to be on the latest android version...

Possible?

it depend on the phone itself. usually u can install barebones rom without any bloatware.

In general, *devices* do not work like a general purpose computer of an x86 PC, although there is NO technical limitation why they can't. It's the artificial restrictions of locked bootloaders, proprietary binaries etc that make you dependent on the manufacturer to supply updates and prebuilt binary packages.

So you can only load up an AOSP/CM10.x based ROM to do this mix and match, or becoming a dev yourself and precompile your own ROM. That is IF you can get the kernel sources at least, for your desired device.

If you're referring to compiling similar to that in intel/amd based arch, that is to say, ./configure, make, etc.. and compiling kernels, that im able to do..

If it's too much a waste of time, are there any chinastock phones that are very bare and minimal and the software is frequently updated so that the user can enjoy the latest features?

Just like how some linux distributions use the 3.3 kernel branch, some will already provide the latest 3.10 kernel branch.

thanks for your detailed reply.. hope to achieve a technical understanding of these smart phone devices (still using a dumb phone right now)

Are there any upcoming chinastock soc's worth waiting? So I've read that mediatek is bringing in an octo proc.. Not too sure what all the power is for, but I'd like a phone that can last as long as possible without charging. my dumb phone can last a week without charging.

Read the rooting link in my sig hope it helps u with an overview.

Update: some links there to the cyanogenmod wiki will probably help you.

This post has been edited by joytest: Jul 11 2013, 11:45 AM

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