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Model Kits Gundam & Mecha Modelling Thread V29, Excitement Embodied

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Agito666
post May 13 2013, 07:42 PM

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i hope they release MG figure of ironman mark 12334245432543252

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post May 13 2013, 07:47 PM

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I am hoping for a huge improvement on the waist, hips and knees of the new kits so that they will not bend backwards due to overweight backpack issue. But then, should they kick off the new MG line with RX-78, it won't be able to prove anything since its backpack is quite small. My own speculation this is...
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post May 13 2013, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(onnylam @ May 13 2013, 07:47 PM)
I am hoping for a huge improvement on the waist, hips and knees of the new kits so that they will not bend backwards due to overweight backpack issue. But then, should they kick off the new MG line with RX-78, it won't be able to prove anything since its backpack is quite small. My own speculation this is...
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small backpack is good.... balanced body laugh.gif
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post May 13 2013, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 13 2013, 07:48 PM)
small backpack is good.... balanced body  laugh.gif
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Yeah, but too bad some amazing kits have very huge backpacks, take ex-S for example, or even the Wing Zero Custom.
I'm quite curious on how they're going to wow us this time; I'm very impressed on how they create the legs and arms for the RGs, and they're totally molded...
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post May 13 2013, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(onnylam @ May 13 2013, 07:47 PM)
I am hoping for a huge improvement on the waist, hips and knees of the new kits so that they will not bend backwards due to overweight backpack issue. But then, should they kick off the new MG line with RX-78, it won't be able to prove anything since its backpack is quite small. My own speculation this is...
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All new line starts with rx-78. Its the face of the series, its the most recognizable design, its the most sold design by far, its the most popular design by far, its the most famous design by far, a gundam is not a gundam unless it has similar facial features like rx-78, its an icon in an industry, it a safe bet. If u r Bandai u would do the same, business 101.

QUOTE(onnylam @ May 13 2013, 07:54 PM)
Yeah, but too bad some amazing kits have very huge backpacks, take ex-S for example, or even the Wing Zero Custom.
I'm quite curious on how they're going to wow us this time; I'm very impressed on how they create the legs and arms for the RGs, and they're totally molded...
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Bandai is not omnipotent tey cant turn off the law of physic whenever tey like. Big backpack offset center of gravity, by design a big backpack is nvr going to be balance ur hoping for the impossible. To giv u an example, try carrying 2 huge travelers bag fill with stuff to the brim and report back how ur spine feels. Also u hav to emulate a model kit by not cheating and shifting the weight forward and u must remain still. Good Luck.....

also ex-s problem is not just the backpack.

pre build frame is not exclusively for RG nor was it debuted in RG, it was adopted from ver 1.5. Hardly new, surprisingly small yes but not revolutionary and frankly if MG adoptable it it'll be a regression not progression.
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post May 13 2013, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(Tiger I @ May 12 2013, 10:11 PM)
You can't never go wrong with MG Zaku 2.0 tongue.gif
Many variaties for every need
Normal, land, cannon, space, commander, elite and the list goes on
For RG poison, wait for Agito666 laugh.gif
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Hehe.. just asking, where can I buy spray paint for the kits? Want to go straight to air brush..but seems to be too advance for me. tongue.gif plus I don't have steady hands..
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QUOTE(muserella @ May 13 2013, 10:02 PM)
Hehe.. just asking, where can I buy spray paint for the kits? Want to go straight to air brush..but seems to be too advance for me. tongue.gif plus I don't have steady hands..
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this will require more experienced modelers to help as i am now reverting back to strictly snap fit only. Last time i only spray my kit using spray can, but that was 3-4 years back.
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post May 13 2013, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(muserella @ May 13 2013, 10:02 PM)
Hehe.. just asking, where can I buy spray paint for the kits? Want to go straight to air brush..but seems to be too advance for me. tongue.gif plus I don't have steady hands..
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For this kind of question, better post it in here:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1397850/+2460
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post May 14 2013, 12:50 AM

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MG Revolution I expect
-Inner frame not longer use ABS.. but then they already do it on Sinanju OVA
-Something to do with nubs mark, maybe make it less or hide it
-Decals now using water slide and no longer dry transfer
-Instruction Manual now in English, probably to promote gunpla internationally
-effect part included such as exploded smoke or rifle shooting effect

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post May 14 2013, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(nazrul90 @ May 14 2013, 12:50 AM)
MG Revolution I expect
-Inner frame not longer use ABS.. but then they already do it on Sinanju OVA
-Something to do with nubs mark, maybe make it less or hide it
-Decals now using water slide and no longer dry transfer
-Instruction Manual now in English, probably to promote gunpla internationally
-effect part included such as exploded smoke or rifle shooting effect
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knowing bandai the last one probably very slim chances sweat.gif
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QUOTE(D-y @ May 14 2013, 01:56 AM)
knowing bandai the last one probably very slim chances sweat.gif
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they already did it on Figure-rise 6 Black Lotus so I dont see any problem there
or at least make beam saber effect jagged or something like that just like HGUC Nu Gundam

the chopstick beam saber effect is too plain boring
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post May 14 2013, 07:31 AM

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i expect pre-molded innerframe on one-piece of runner.. just like RG

even better if the whole endoskeleton is pre-joined on said piece of runner (better than RG tech).. that'd be revolutionary i guess.. whistling.gif
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post May 14 2013, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(james83 @ May 14 2013, 07:31 AM)
i expect pre-molded innerframe on one-piece of runner.. just like RG

even better if the whole endoskeleton is pre-joined on said piece of runner (better than RG tech).. that'd be revolutionary i guess.. whistling.gif
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i think, this would kill the fun of building the inner-frame to me
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post May 14 2013, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(james83 @ May 14 2013, 07:31 AM)
i expect pre-molded innerframe on one-piece of runner.. just like RG

even better if the whole endoskeleton is pre-joined on said piece of runner (better than RG tech).. that'd be revolutionary i guess.. whistling.gif
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i've said it b4 and i'll say it again, pre build innerframe is not an advancement..... its a regression.

such a tech is not new, its been done b4 on ver 1.5 why on earth will u wan it in a new kit? The only reason RG is using it is bcuz tey hav no choice, if tey can make functional proper innerframe that hav to be manually build in that scale i bet u tey will dump that pre build innerframe without a moment of hesitation.
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QUOTE(TheAdmiral @ May 13 2013, 08:22 PM)
All new line starts with rx-78. Its the face of the series, its the most recognizable design, its the most sold design by far, its the most popular design by far, its the most famous design by far, a gundam is not a gundam unless it has similar facial features like rx-78, its an icon in an industry, it a safe bet. If u r Bandai u would do the same, business 101.
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i hate that statement. mad.gif i never had any love for rx-78, and bandai will never get my money from it. the only thing good about it is after rx-78, comes the zakus. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(nazrul90 @ May 14 2013, 12:50 AM)
MG Revolution I expect
-Inner frame not longer use ABS.. but then they already do it on Sinanju OVA
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IINM, that tech was 1st use on the F91 kits.


QUOTE(TheAdmiral @ May 14 2013, 08:34 AM)
i've said it b4 and i'll say it again, pre build innerframe is not an advancement..... its a regression.

such a tech is not new, its been done b4 on ver 1.5 why on earth will u wan it in a new kit? The only reason RG is using it is bcuz tey hav no choice, if tey can make functional proper innerframe that hav to be manually build in that scale i bet u tey will dump that pre build innerframe without a moment of hesitation.
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agreed. what's the fun with pre-build inner frame? doh.gif

no more "i hope they make MG more like RG" suggestion, please. seriously, as admiral said, RG is only more cosmetically advance compared to an MG. that's not really a good thing. realistically speaking, have you ever seen a tank with many separations on the armour? armour plates works best when it is one solid piece, not pieces. so an RG may look more detailed, but a real battle machine won't look like that. an MG zaku ii v2(old kit) may not look as cool as an RG zaku ii(relatively new kit), but it's way more advance as far as plamo engineering goes.
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post May 14 2013, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(TheAdmiral @ May 14 2013, 08:34 AM)
i've said it b4 and i'll say it again, pre build innerframe is not an advancement..... its a regression.

such a tech is not new, its been done b4 on ver 1.5 why on earth will u wan it in a new kit? The only reason RG is using it is bcuz tey hav no choice, if tey can make functional proper innerframe that hav to be manually build in that scale i bet u tey will dump that pre build innerframe without a moment of hesitation.
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you're correct it's been applied to rx78-2 ver1.5 but (i might miss a few) MG kits after that ver1.5 does not use that technology, for better or for worse..
it could be that bandai is "standardizing" its use for supposedly revolutionized new line of MG kits to come..
some of us prefer more fun assembling *more* innerframe parts while some of us prefer simpler & time-saving assemble, it's very subjective. given the popularity of RG kits right now, the kit-making company might as well head this way, won't it?
same as you, i do hope for a better advancement in this already advanced model kit line.
it's just a matter of days before the announcement now.. let's keep our fingers crossed. smile.gif
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post May 14 2013, 10:58 AM

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panel line... is kinda like "colour in the box" for me....

so i can decide more area where to paint chrome tongue.gif
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post May 14 2013, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(james83 @ May 14 2013, 10:57 AM)
you're correct it's been applied to rx78-2 ver1.5 but (i might miss a few) MG kits after that ver1.5 does not use that technology, for better or for worse..
it could be that bandai is "standardizing" its use for supposedly revolutionized new line of MG kits to come..
some of us prefer more fun assembling *more* innerframe parts while some of us prefer simpler & time-saving assemble, it's very subjective. given the popularity of RG kits right now, the kit-making company might as well head this way, won't it?
same as you, i do hope for a better advancement in this already advanced model kit line.
it's just a matter of days before the announcement now.. let's keep our fingers crossed. smile.gif
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1. U cant standardize its use, diff model hav diff in universe height. Some r 25m some r 15m how r u gonna make up for the missing 10m? If u gonna ignore this height and make it standard across the range then it wont be 1/100 scale model kit anymore. If u r gonna compensate it by adding some extension (dumb idea more moving parts = more unstable) then why do u bother making it standardize in the 1st place?

2. There r already similar range of product line as the above description, why would Bandai introduce something so similar to cannibalize its own market?

3. MG is the preferred line for customization due to its size and it comes in gazillion of individual pieces for easier customization. Can u chop off an RG arm n implant it on others? MG can to a certain extend bcuz we can take the frame apart and make it work. We can chop it off, put in suitable joint, kitbash it, resin base, paint it in rainbow, u name it. Keyword here is flexibility, im not talking bout structural flexibility here im talking bout customization flexibility.

what advantage does a single pre build frame has on a technical level? Easier and time saving its all personal level thats not advancement thats appeasement.
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I hope the new line's innovation is cheaper price for MG haha
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for me those ideas discussed above still don't make it so special that Bandai can really call it a revolutionised MG lineup
I'm still thinking the keyword is the 'big' they've mentioned


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