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post Aug 3 2007, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(lamely_named @ Aug 3 2007, 09:41 PM)
ok, will try it now, hopefully this work.  smile.gif

Btw, do you need any "proof of bank-in" from me if I buy from you? Like a screenshot of successful bank-in or something?

I use online banking.
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prefer to have any black and white...

u intend to get SP9201DAF? i not sure whether it will work together with ur SF9512 or not
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post Sep 5 2007, 10:24 PM

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Yes, get a MDSC0039 to combine together with SP9201DAF... this combination able to protect 1set PC equipment, modem and analog telephone...

about the grounding of MDSC0039, u can connect the green wire of SP9201DAF to MDSC0039's earth connector, so SP9201DAF able to do surge isolate...
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post Sep 6 2007, 09:03 PM

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i can COD at shah alam, sunway, along LDP and kepong...
i will be at kajang this monday...
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post Oct 25 2007, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(ReaperOfSoul @ Oct 24 2007, 08:19 PM)
Which surge protector is suitable for washing machine  unsure.gif  . My mum wants to get 1  nod.gif  . Thanks..
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MDSC0039 or SC0039, both of the units can support up to 2000w
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post Nov 11 2007, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(spideymung @ Nov 11 2007, 05:58 PM)
my SP9201DAF onli lasted a month...got struck by lightning again, is it too sensitive or wat?

i had already got a recycled unit for RM25 just last month. Now its out again....realli thinking if its too sensitive just to make us pay more.

Anyone had this experience?
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did u ground the green cable to earth pin? otherwise the isolated surge no where to go, retain in SP9201DAF and self-destruct to ensure equipment in safe condition...

FYI, SP9201DAF replacement cost should only RM15... may i know where u do the replacement?

if u follow my recommendation to use SF9812DSL to protect ur PC setup, the replacement cost just Rm10 to replace a small cube module which inside the SF9812DSL...

if u only used SP9201DAF to protect tel line but power line not protected, pls take the risk that the surge may come from power line anytime and destruct ur PC setup although SP9201DAF still working...

so far i only receive 2 complain from my customer...
a customer used IT pack, equipments burnt... problem due to wrong installation and caused back surge after investigate by cal-lab staffs...
a customer not following my recommendation to protect his modem and PC, bcos insist want to cut cost...

hence, most the customers who followed my recommendation not complain to me, at least i ensure their equipments in safe condition... maybe have small numbers of unhappy customer but i dont know who they r...

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post Nov 12 2007, 04:47 AM

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QUOTE(spideymung @ Nov 12 2007, 12:00 AM)
The SP9201DAF protected my equipment, notin damaged...but this is my third one in like 4 months since i last got it...

The total cost would be 43 + 25 + 25 = RM93....thinkin maybe i would be better off getting a belkin....at least that is lifetime warranty....

I got my replacement at Centrepoint DIY. The grounding was also done properly...the SP9201DAF just seems abit too fragile in my opinion....
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Forwarded ur feedback to Cal-Lab office, see what they can do on ur problem...
but the charges from Centrepoint DIY hardware shop was overcharge... doh.gif sweat.gif

belkin still have it own disadvantages also... may burn equipments as well...
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=12523107
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=11281791
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=9241155
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=9232867
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=9218943

Latest cases belkin fail to protect and burnt equipments...
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=537490
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=476518

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post Nov 13 2007, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(spideymung @ Nov 12 2007, 12:00 AM)
The SP9201DAF protected my equipment, notin damaged...but this is my third one in like 4 months since i last got it...

The total cost would be 43 + 25 + 25 = RM93....thinkin maybe i would be better off getting a belkin....at least that is lifetime warranty....

I got my replacement at Centrepoint DIY. The grounding was also done properly...the SP9201DAF just seems abit too fragile in my opinion....
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Reply From Cal-Lab officer:
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CLLI or CAL-LAB Lightning Isolators are designed to self-sacrifice so that user and equipment can be safe from lightning! If there was no surge, CLLI would not be damaged! We have nearly 1,000,000 CLLI in use at the homes and offices. Sometimes, during dry season, we get less than 10 units a week for LLSWA service. BUT, during rainy seasons, we get 30 to 80 a week. All damaged decause of lightning or power surges and none at all due to manufacturing defect!

Is SP9201-DAF too sensitive? Not at all. Only powerful surges would cause it to be damaged. Other times, it simply resets at DSL side but Analog side may need manual reset sometimes. (Please note that the DSL side cannot protect analog devices such as dial-up modems or FAX or cordless-phone!)

Your customer has 2-issues. We have 3 explanations:
1. The first issue is beyond our control when lightning surges arrive or not arrive so often. It is definitely not because our CLLI is too sensitive. We actually wish we do not have to carry out any aftersales restoration, because it is often a SUBSIDIZED service. When middle-man over charge or make a few bucks, we normally do not make any money from LLSWA!
2. We advise customers to check from our website to know what to pay and how much to pay. We have no control over how much others charge.
3. CLLI creates SAFE-islands while others do not. How to create SAFE-island if CLLI do not self-sacrifice? Your customers have to choose whether to use ISOLATION-TECHNOLOGY OR ORDINARY TECHNOLOGY. They cannot have it both ways!

If your customer was only using it for DSL, only very powerful strikes will damage it.
Chances are his place is very prone to powerful strikes!

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post Nov 15 2007, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(spideymung @ Nov 15 2007, 01:44 AM)
ok...will give it another try...but a recycled unit costs RM25 or RM15?

the website says ----> Lifetime Exchange-replacement @ RM25 (found on http://www.cal-lab.com)

i just need a place to exchange which is reasonable...i work on weekdays...so it might be hard to get to the office on weekdays.
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The replacement cost will be RM25, Rm15 & RM10 but depending on Recommended Retail Price

more than RRP RM50 : replacement cost RM25
between RRP RM30 - RM50 : replacement cost RM15
below RRP RM30 : replacement cost RM10

u can approach cal-lab showroom when next saturday (1st & 3rd week of saturday close)

before u going there pls call cal-lab office 77268680 to do appointment, they will serve u on the right time without waisting ur precious time, if u come on the right time may meet the cal-lab's founder & inventor face by face. smile.gif

and they knew the DIY hardware shop overcharged u, they managing this issues now since the shop damanging cal-lab reputation sweat.gif that one of the reasons why we hardly to get cal-lab lightning isolator from other shops / hypermarket because of no commitment, they can cheat cal-lab shakehead.gif

if u worry the sensitivity level of SP9201DAF, perhaps u can try to do replacement for SP9201D (digital version) which have less sensitivity than SP9201DAF/SP9201DSL, but it able to support up to 512 streamyx (hopefully u using this package). maybe u can request do testing for the speed difference between SP9201DAF and SP9201D by using this http://www.speedtest.net/ on the spot. hence if SP9201D dead, the replacement cost will be RM10 smile.gif

actually SF9812DSL is the best bang for u if ur house area a lot of strong surge, the replacement cost will be RM10 to replace SKPX DSL (RRP RM20) inside SF9812DSL and can purchase another SKPX DSL for spare module purpose smile.gif hence, if u want to use the SF9812DSL for analog telephone or fax machine, what u need to purchase is another version (digital version and auto reset version) of SKPX which cost u RM20 only, 1 unit can do different purpose and for particular by changing module. nod.gif

bear in mind, i think ur power line not protected, is it? the surge may come from power line anytime also to strike ur PC although rare to happen. if someone stealing the TNB copper power line, the voltage may increase from 230v up to 400v (u can read the news from newspaper or TV) and ur PC will burnt as well, in addition cal-lab still protect ur equipment for such condition.

actually based on my experience, my 1st unit of cal-lab SF9512DSL burnt after used 1 month+, because i using it during thunderstorm tongue.gif once lightning strike, power trip, but cal-lab immediately burnt on the spot, i deserve it but PC still working fine after restore the power. so i replaced another units, and try not to online when raining if can and unplug telephone line when not using internet (why need the protection while not using computer?) to avoid replacement cost (not extra money to burn sweat.gif ), the 2nd units serving me more than 1 years. tried to BT 24/7 for few days last week, cal-lab still working (maybe i lucky). now, my 3 years old poor rig still working condition under cal-lab protection, dont have any hardwares damaged after i bought it from lowyat plaza smile.gif in addition i adding more and more hardwares into it, stressing it and no issues found... nod.gif

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QUOTE(WhiteWing @ Nov 16 2007, 10:40 PM)
gkl83,about the replacement for damaged unit la...
above RM49 = RM25
around RM29~RM49 = RM15
below RM29 = RM10

So the replacement for SP9201-DAF and SP9201-DSL/AR/D was RM15 smile.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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is it ?
the SP9201 not under Rm10?

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QUOTE(WhiteWing @ Nov 17 2007, 01:42 AM)
No !!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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ok... updated my database... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zamanjaafar @ Nov 18 2007, 12:40 AM)
I have a pc system plus minibar attached to a 6 socket belkin surge protector.  Is there a Cal-lab device to put between the wall socket and the belkin main plug?
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yes... it can be done... cal-lab can compatible with different brand of lightning protection, cal-lab will perform protection as well (if correct installation only)... in additional, more devices, more Ohm and caused slightly higher power consumption...
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QUOTE(zamanjaafar @ Nov 18 2007, 08:43 PM)
can u recommend me one device?  too much, donno which is best...
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provide me ur information about the PC system.
example what equipments connected within ur PC system or within PC areas such as monitor,, CPU, modem, Amplifier, coredless phone, etc
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QUOTE(psychict @ Nov 25 2007, 11:19 AM)
Hi GKL,

I have three computers at three different points. 1 DSL, 1 Telephone Intercomsystem (Like offices but I only have one line) So I have two telephone lines. DSL line has fried 4modems so far so I'm guessing surge is thru phone line. None of PC equipment were burnt throughout the years.

Question for you, with CalLab, we protect the DSL and divert the surge to our EARTH cable on the Green in Power Outlet, would that surge become harmful to other equipments attached on the same electrical system?
ie, surge comes thru telephone line, CalLab diverts to Earth in Power outlet, surge then travels to ground via Earth cable, somehow it wanna have a detour towards my other equipment in the house (Is this possible?)

Thanks for taking the time to answer biggrin.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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Reply From Cal-Lab Officer
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A lightning strike is too complex to be analysed by words and speculations or guessing what took place after a strike!

The only way a fairly accurate (still not accurate) analysis could be done is to have a complete and accurate survey and measurements of all interconnected equipment - where the locations and ambience are accurately captured.

This is why CAL-LAB often asked customers to describe ALL INTERCONNECTED EQUIPMENT IN EACH SETUP, WITH A SKETCH & WITH ACCURATE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE POWER CONSUMPTION AND HOW EACH IS CONNECTED IN THE SETUP and what are connected to external parts.

Making a sketch of different setups connected together may be useful BUT not necessary - because CAL-LAB attempts to protect your equipment by creating ONE-SAFE-ISLAND at a time!

As to how a strike come in and go out, we dare not even attempt to speculate! We can only anticipate and try to make users and equipment safe from powerful strikes, by installing a correct CLLI correctly at each setup.

But you can read our various pages on this subject in the website - on LIGHTNING SURGE & POWER SURGE / WHY CLLI IS DIFFERENT / LIGHTNING FACTS / etc.

As to choosing an appropriate CLLI, we would not be having so many models & versions, if it was so simple! That's why we have engineers to help when written inputs are sufficiently available!

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QUOTE(psychict @ Nov 25 2007, 11:19 AM)
Thanks for taking the time to answer biggrin.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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Reply from cal-lab officer
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A lightning strike is too complex to be analyzed by words and speculations or guessing what took place after a strike!

The only way a fairly accurate (still not accurate) analysis could be done is to have a complete and accurate survey and measurements of all interconnected equipment - where the locations and ambience are accurately captured.

This is why CAL-LAB often asked customers to describe ALL INTERCONNECTED EQUIPMENT IN EACH SETUP, WITH A SKETCH & WITH ACCURATE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE POWER CONSUMPTION AND HOW EACH IS CONNECTED IN THE SETUP and what are connected to external parts.

Making a sketch of different setups connected together may be useful BUT not necessary - because CAL-LAB attempts to protect your equipment by creating ONE-SAFE-ISLAND at a time!

As to how a strike come in and go out, we dare not even attempt to speculate! We can only anticipate and try to make users and equipment safe from powerful strikes, by installing a correct CLLI correctly at each setup.

But you can read our various pages on this subject in the website - on LIGHTNING SURGE & POWER SURGE / WHY CLLI IS DIFFERENT / LIGHTNING FACTS / etc.

As to choosing an appropriate CLLI, we would not be having so many models & versions, if it was so simple! That's why we have engineers to help when written inputs are sufficiently available!

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QUOTE(psychict @ Nov 27 2007, 09:41 PM)
So what would they recommend? I have three computers, at three separate power outlets (different circuits on breaker), ONE dsl line coming in. Based on history current comes in through phone line and killed adsl modems.

I totally rule out current spikes coming in through power outlets as my house is properly protected by my neighbour's  RM30k lightning arrestor.

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so basically u have 3 PC setup ? do u mind to draw a diagram to understand ur PC connectivity between each others?

QUOTE(mikelarren @ Nov 27 2007, 10:45 PM)
Here is the diagram of my pc setup:

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So is SD-4C & SF9812DSL sufficient to protect the whole system??
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QUOTE(mikelarren @ Nov 27 2007, 10:45 PM)
Here is the diagram of my pc setup:

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So is SD-4C & SF9812DSL sufficient to protect the whole system??
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both models will sufficient to protect, but with SLAN1236 will gain the extra protection to avoid back surge thru lan cable smile.gif
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QUOTE(louislee1991 @ Nov 28 2007, 09:05 AM)
SD9623, Protect:PTT -> RRP:RM89, 15%off, Now:RM76< I am interested in buying this product. I have 2 streamyx lines. can i use this? will it slow download my internet download and surfing speeed? I am using vpn for both lines. Place of COD? I possible i can get it today cause i am going to low yat today maybe can meet somewhere. Will pay when i receive package. Please reply ASAP.
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sorry for late reply... just received ur post... sweat.gif

SD9623 designed for RJ11 telephone port which used 4pins (Pin1-4), usually use by ISDN connection or other special equipments... FYI, streamyx only use 2pins (Pin2 & Pin3)...

if u have 2 units of modem/router and located together at the same location, SF9812DSL and SP9201DSL will sufficient to protect from tel line side, but lan cable side still a question bcos the surge may come from lan cable and strike ur modem/router
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QUOTE(Jenn77 @ Nov 28 2007, 11:40 PM)
Heya I already PM'ed you my requirements. Please let me know, ok.
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Here ur installation... so dont have other PC or other equipments connected to the diagram below?
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QUOTE(louislee1991 @ Nov 28 2007, 09:44 PM)
So wht do u suggest? I have 1 desktop and 2 lapie and i have 2 modem and a router and 2 homeplugs. I also have a pair of speaker and a printer. Please reply ASAP
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Here your installation...
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QUOTE(DreamChaser @ Dec 24 2007, 10:52 PM)
Which unit do I need? I have only 1 Streamyx line at home and so far have a few modem/router burned by lightning already.

The main phone line comes into my modem/router and the modem/router will be connected to two PCs. I need to protect my phone line. Thanks.
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what is ur complete equipments list u having for ur computer... if for ur common setup, 1 modem with 2 PC... the installationa diagram should look like this....
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QUOTE(mokhazu_1985 @ Jan 6 2008, 01:20 PM)
Hi. I interested to get 1 Cal-Lab Lightning Isolator for my parents 300 watts plasma tv and a dvd player.I want a unit which can protect both power and antenna side for the plasma tv.Which model suitable for me?Also, i want to know whether SC9517 unit still available or not?Thanks you.
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if tended to protect power and antenna only... STV9511...
if tended all in 1 (protect power, antenna, astro & telephone)... SFTV9622FC/SFTV9622FC MS2+3/SFTV9822FC..

SC9517 only protect power, but it is DIY module... i can get the unit for u if tended to get it... i dont have the stock on hand now...
otherwise MDSC0039 will be ur choice if not intended for DIY and it is Plug & Play...
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QUOTE(kok_hui @ Jan 6 2008, 11:02 PM)
What is the product to protect only one adsl wireless router modem? need to protect the phone line and power line.
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if only ADSL wireless router modem WITHOUT any wired lan cable with PCs...
SF9812DSL/SF9512DSL will sufficient to protect it without doubt...

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