still recommended to protect the power as the same time to prevent back surge...

if just protect a simple pc setup as what u said, SF9812DSL will sufficient for u... it used to protect 1 set of PC, 1 unit of modem and 1 unit of wireless router if u have any within a small area/room...

wont effected broadband connection speed... none of LYN forumer complaint after used cal-lab except wrong installation...

SP9201DAF same with ADSL splitter filter... it able to protect analog telephone and digital broadband at the same time
SP9201DSL only protect digital broadband for modem only...

cal-lab not recommended to protect tel line for ur PC setup only, and unsure how effective is ur old adaport surge protector... if u insist to protect tel line only, u have to bear the risk yourself since the surge may come from power line although ur tel line protected by cal-lab...

i had a LYN forumer insisted to protect tel line only and i mentioned bear the risk himself although i recommended him the correct model and correct installation... result: his modem burnt after few months...

so far, none complain from LYN forumers who using recommended models, correct installation and correct equipments, except 1 of them done the wrong installation after investigated by cal-lab staff which his installation caused back kick...

sure will have some dropping on broadband but not significant, around 1-2%...
more devices/components, more Ohm...

here my latest speedtest... using 512 streamyx...
broadband signal filter by 2 models - SF9512DSL (RJ11 cable) and SLAN1236 (RJ45 cable)


if u just intend to protect simple pc setup... i recommended SF9812DSL and get a SKPXDSL for spare module purpose

allow me to make your scenarios in simple ways
1. want to protect 1 unit of modem and 1 set of pc
2. want to protect analog telephone as well
3. dont have other PCs or other networking devices connecting to your modem and your PC
4. all the equipments (telephone, modem and PC) located at the same room and areas

in order to fulfill ur requirements, MDSC0039 + SP9201DAF is ur choices
MDSC0039 protect power line which used to feed your PC and modem
SP9201DAF act as ADSL splitter filter, it split the telekom line into analog signal (telephone) and digital signal (modem)

SF9812DSL with SKPX (fuse) module but unlucky tat it used to protect digital signal only which splitted by ordinary ADSL splitter filter... it cannot used to protect analog telephone... otherwise broadband signal quality will be decrease and telephone may not protected bcos SF9812DSL designed to protect digital signal interface...

all of the cal-lab products doesnt come with replaceable fuse, it wont work well... it used to BURNT while overvoltage, it not used to detect or isolate or arrest the surge...

SF9512 (Digital + Analog interface) used for dial up modem, fax machine and 512 streamyx
SF9512DSL (Digital interface only) used for higher speed of broadband
both of them come with 1 @ 3pin power socket and telephone module

SF9512DSL MS2+3 is a multi socket of SF9512DSL
it have 2 @ 3pin and 3 @ 2pin power socket and telephone module for broadband

SF9812DSL basically same with SF9512DSL, difference is SF9512DSL doesnt come with SKPX (fuse) module for telephone line

SF9812 (digital) same with SF9512, protect dial up modem, fax machine and 512 streamyx

SD9623 used for unique equipments which used 4 pins of the telephone line, such as ISDN connection
normal telephone and broadband used 2 pins (pin2 and pin3) only of telephone line
the protection level will same with SF9512 and SF9812, used to protect dial up modem, fax machine and 512 streamyx


1 unit of cal-lab product will sufficient for ur PC equipments loh...
u can try with "Dual Protection" if u not confident on the cal-lab products yet... but i cant confirm hows the broadband signal quality since tel line filtered by 2 units of cal-lab... i tested with 9512 + 9812, my modem cant detect streamyx signal...
but i using SF9512DSL (protect power, tel line) + SLAN1236 (protect lan cable), my torrent speed still able to reach 50kb+/s with my 512 streamyx... below is my connection speed with both models...

DSL version only used to protect modem, not for telephone...

u can use SF9812DSL for ur modem and PC set... but not recommended to locate ur telephone beside ur modem and PC... otherwise will cause the back kick, the surge may pass thru the telephone and the surge able "jump" into ur modem and PC set, lastly ur equipments still will damaged, although ur modem and PC protected by cal-lab at the front end...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Jul 24 2007, 08:20 PM

cal-lab not recommended to split after their products except SP9201DAF and power line, otherwise the result may different as you expected...

and the "fuse" either for DSL or D (Digital), cant mess up together... 1 unit of 9812 only have 1 "fuse"... and the "fuse" only for telephone module, power module dont have fuse...

the installation diagram should be like this


This post has been edited by gkl83: Jul 24 2007, 08:46 PM

all of the 9812 models have "fuse" which refering to SKPX...

9812 have power module (3pin power socket) and telephone module (RJ11 socket)...

power module dont have fuse but telephone module have "fuse" (SKPX)...

the "fuse" that i mention is not the fuse that u can found in DIY hardware shops...

if u dont want ur streamyx broadband speed effected, only SF9812DSL is ur choices... and cannot split after SF9812DSL as i shown u in the diagram... only can split before SF9812DSL, but telephone not protected and telephone cannot locate near ur modem and PC...

your "protect modem, telephone & PC" not recommended
u split the line after cal-lab unit and may effected ur broadband signal speed and cal-lab protection
ADSL splitter filter designed to split the analog signal and digital signal...
telekom -> SF9812DSL -> filtered as ADSL signal (digital only) -> ADSL splitter filter -> unsure what the outputs since the inputs only digital...

your "protect modem & PC" is what exactly want i want so say and same with the diagram i drawn just now...
telekom
V
ADSL Splitter Filter -> digital signal -> SF9812DSL -> digital signal -> modem -> PC
V
Analog signal
V
Telephone

try to locate ur telephone away from ur PC more than 3 meters... but as far as possible to avoid telephone carry surge and "jump" into ur PC

if u really concern on the phone, just follow my recommendation on my 1st reply
MDSC0039 + SP9201DAF
this combination can protect a cordless phone also...

yup... i afraid u will split the tel line after the SF9812DSL and complain the broadband speed effected significantly... and protection level may reduce also... if u dont have telephone nearby, i will recommend for SF9812DSL for sure...

SP9201DSL = SF9812DSL/SF9512DSL's telephone module
which means MDSC0039 + SP9201DSL = SF9812DSL / SF9512DSL

MDSC0039 have 1@3pin power socket, u can use multi socket to increase the number of power socket...

SP9201DAF = ADSL splitter filter + lighting protection
just replace ur ordinary ADSL splitter filter with SP9201DAF instead...
and u can use ur broadband and telephone at the same time, the modem wont disconnect...

if u expected for SF9812DSL + SP9201DAF for double protection on tel line, so far i hvnt try both combination, i have to do a testing 1st before i sell both of the models to u...

MDSC0039 protect power line which feeding power to ur PC and ur modem
SP9201DAF protect tel line which feeding digital signal to modem and analog signal to ur telephone

if surge come from power line... blocked by MDSC0039 and not able bypass it toward PC and modem...
if surge come from tel line... blocked by SP9201DAF and not able to bypass it toward telephone and modem...

usually only the front end device will burnt and wont effect the other devices...
if SP9201DAF burnt, the replacement cost will be RM15 only... if u stay along LDP areas, u can easy approach cal-lab showroom at bandar utama to do replacement exchange by urself...

i think MDSC0039 + SP9201DAF will suit for ur requirements and the price almost same with SF9812DSL...
the only things that SF9812DSL not able to protect analog telephone... but MDSC0039 + SP9201DAF combination can protect analog telephone...

yup, if damaged have to post back to HQ at Johor, Muar for restoration...
the restoration cost will around RM10-RM15... Rm10-Rm15 ensure your equipment in safe condition, still value for ur money...

Tested with SF9812DSL + SP9201DAF while using the telephone... not noise from telephone...


and the SP9201DAF used to replace the ADSL splitter filter... not need to install the ordinary splitter in ur installation...

SP9201DAF have a cable and 2 holes, a cable and a hole used "from telekom" or "to modem" and another hole used for "to telephone"

both units charge u Rm110 + Rm8 delivery cost to sarawak...

do u need a spare SKPX module for SF9812DSL? if the SKPX in SF9812DSL damaged by lightning, u can swap urself with working SKPX and ur SF9812DSL alive back...

if SF9812DSL + SKPX DSL + SP9201DAF, give u cheaper price RM120 + RM8 for delivery cost...
Note: SKPX cost RM19

1. should be RM10 i think

2. if only SF9812DSL's SKPX module damaged, should be RM5-10 i think... if whole unit burnt, Rm15...

with/without insurance also the same replacement cost... but without will free hassle...

3. yes, the replaceable module is SKPX module for telephone line only (RJ11)

4. SP9201DAF dont have module, once it burnt have to send back to HQ for repair. item name = model name.

if we do replacement by ourself at Klang Valley direct with showroom, have to pay RM25 immediately replacement. if u do postage to HQ, RM15 for replacement cost + RM5 delivery cost (poslaju), u still save RM5 but take time to repair and deliver.

5. warranty is lifetime. u used cal-lab 10 years and fail tat time. the replacement cost still RM15 instead buying a new 1 with "Recommended Retail Price". but if u used 1 day only and so unlucky lightning strike tat day, u have to pay RM15 also since ur equipment is protected and cal-lab is "working" to protect ur equipments.

6. i will test ur units before send to u, very less chances to receive defect units. if u really receive defect units, can send back direct to HQ and i pay u the delivery cost to HQ.

change module wont void warranty, just make sure the stickers on the cal-lab case not damaged, then warranty still will lifetime... i can confirm tat take out the module wont effect the sticker...

usually only SP9201DAF or SKPX module will damage, bcos lightning come from tel line often... both of the units replacement cost maybe just RM10 or below...

if whole SF9812DSL burnt, will be RM15 to do replacement. hence, if we do hand by hand swapping direct with cal-lab, that will be RM25... yours only RM15 + RM5 (delivery to HQ)... still cheaper...


i not sure the quality of Prolink UPS, but cal-lab able to compatible with most of the UPS and free hassle, just plug and play...
if tend to protect UPS also, u can plug the power socket before the UPS...
Wall socket -> cal-lab -> UPS -> PC

if about the internet socket on UPS, i not sure whether it will effect ur streamyx speed or not...
but u can plug it as well if the speed not effected..
Tel socket -> cal-lab -> UPS -> modem -> PC

i recommended for SF9812DSL + SKPXDSL for simple setup, lower replacement cost and efficient, although is slightly expensive...

i think the electric shock is caused by your equipment electric leakage...
if u used another multi socket but still the problem still persist, cal-lab wont help much bcos mostly ur equipment caused the problem...
it just designed to protect surge from the external environment...

yup. maybe ur equipment fail to operate properly and the electric leak...
maybe is ur monitor, maybe is ur psu... if u changed multi socket but problem still persist, means ur equipment got problems...

1. connect the SP9201DAF green cable with SF9812DSL green cable, the surge of SF9201DAF will isolate together with SF9812DSL and ground into earth point...

2. Yes. Connect both models green cable. done.

3. the "line 1" and "hole 2" is the same, either "from telekom" or "to modem", can be two ways. but "hole 3" only "to analog telephone". wont be easily damage if located the units together. in logic, the SP9201DAF failure will higher than SF9812DSL.

4. if the surge jump into SF9812DSL thru telephone or tel line. it still will able to isolate and do surge grounding.

5. the distance is not the main concern. the main concern is the installation, ur equipment will get damage if u done wrong installation which caused back kick by lightning.

6. the module is under the SF9812DSL's tel line connector, unscrew both screw then u will see it.

7. if u didnt ground the SP9201DAF together with SF9812DSL, SP9201DAF have higher chances to get burnt bcos it cant isolate the surge.

on ur installation, ur equipments (4 plug + PC) will protected which power source come from MDSC0039

the green wire on SP9201DAF can be connect to MDSC0039's connectors which provided with 2 small screw at the side of MDSC0039.

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Added on August 1, 2007, 9:14 pm
yes, it as simple as ABC...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Aug 1 2007, 09:14 PM

usually 1 day will arrive to sarawak. i using poslaju. Rm6 postage to sarawak. my bank info located at page 1

SF9512DSL can support up to ADSL2 as well...

but i would recommended get SF9812DSL and a spare SKPXDSL module...
if the SKPXDSL module inside the SF9812DSL burnt, which means not signal for ur modem, u can swap it with spare module into SF9812DSL immediately, and ur SF9812DSL will alive back again. and the burnt module can be send back to HQ to restore but u have to pay little amount to repair, should be RM5 only + postage Rm5...

if SF9512DSL burnt, the restoration cost will be RM15 + RM5 postage to HQ...

u plug the ADSL splitter filter before cal-lab unit or after cal-lab unit?

u sure that ur unit still working ? try to plug the unit with normal telephone? if u only can hear buzz sound after u plug cal-lab unit on telephone, sure that its burnt...

u can use public bank to interbank me.

u can check my 1st page, i have plenty of previous transaction with postage. they all bank in to me 1st before i send their units...

how about the telco box direct into SF9512 ? without using splitter...