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pisces88
post Mar 23 2013, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 23 2013, 10:59 AM)
Go to Post #1, read the FAQs  sleep.gif
Your UT portfolio is like a "Greatest Hits" compilation thumbup.gif

That's effectively about 60% in equities, 40% in bonds...

Thanks to FSM, we can have most of the great funds under 1 distributor, convenient and cheap rclxms.gif
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do you mean the part of : dividend is just "left hand go right hand"?

i understand this.. so at rm1.00 now, if after ex-date it goes to 0.90. and i bought it earlier at rm1.00, buying it again at .90 brings down my average to .95 right? is that how we do it in UT? bear with me please sweat.gif
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Mar 23 2013, 11:18 AM)
do you mean the part of : dividend is just "left hand go right hand"?

i understand this.. so at rm1.00 now, if after ex-date it goes to 0.90. and i bought it earlier at rm1.00, buying it again at .90 brings down my average to .95 right? is that how we do it in UT? bear with me please  sweat.gif
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Just a simple example to illustrate, but that's essentially how it works...

You hold 100 units at RM1.00 each. RM1.00 x 100 = RM100
Let's say you get 10 units extra from distribution. After distribution you hold 110 units at RM0.9091 each. RM0.9091 x 110 = RM100

Now, let's assume you top up RM10 after ex-date,
RM10 / RM0.9091 = 11 units bought

Your holdings now:
(110 + 11) x RM0.9091 = RM110

Initial value: RM100
Top up: RM10
Total: RM110

Yes, topping up after distribution ex-date brings your unit cost down. BUT AT THE SAME TIME the value per unit i.e. NAV price also comes down - IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE whether you top up before or after ex-date. Cost per unit in UT means little in isolation, the difference between cost per unit and NAV price multiplied by your units held is what matters.

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post Mar 23 2013, 11:40 AM

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i see! thanks for the insight! learnt something new today ^^
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Mar 23 2013, 11:40 AM)
i see! thanks for the insight! learnt something new today ^^
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You're welcome. Just inserted your question as another FAQ on Post #1 smile.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 23 2013, 11:47 AM)
You're welcome. Just inserted your question as another FAQ on Post #1 smile.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 23 2013, 09:15 AM)
The standard is about 1 month from ex-date. Now my OSK-UOB Income Fund is next to go ex doh.gif
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Mine will be Kidsave... sweat.gif
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post Mar 24 2013, 10:28 AM

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EI Asia Pacific equity had drop below it's benchmark.. haihz.. =(
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QUOTE(johnnywzm @ Mar 24 2013, 10:28 AM)
EI Asia Pacific equity had drop below it's benchmark.. haihz.. =(
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It has never/rarely beaten its benchmark tongue.gif

The Shariah variant perform better... icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 24 2013, 10:32 PM

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for unit trust, we invest big amount of money or we put little by little better?

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post Mar 24 2013, 10:55 PM

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hello sifus, im thinking to park some of my money into bonds, looking for low to moderate risk bonds. from FSM's webpage, one of the recommended bonds are

Bonds - Asia
United Asian Bond Fund Class SGD

Bonds - Global
LionGlobal Short Duration Bond Fund

Bonds - Money Market & Short Duration
Cash Fund

Bonds - Singapore-Centric
LionGlobal Spore Fixed Inc-A
United SGD Fund Cl A

any advise on any of these?

and how do i calculate past performance of UT? when i view 'fact sheet', i see some numbers, but cant figure how to count =/
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post Mar 24 2013, 11:33 PM

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i sell some of my unit, i think it would take 24 hours with the current price, however, im wrong. which means its quite complicated to lock in profit.
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QUOTE(speedo @ Mar 24 2013, 11:33 PM)
i sell some of my unit, i think it would take 24 hours with the current price, however, im wrong. which means its quite complicated to lock in profit.
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Click the FAQ link on Post #1

QUOTE(pisces88 @ Mar 24 2013, 10:55 PM)
hello sifus, im thinking to park some of my money into bonds, looking for low to moderate risk bonds. from FSM's webpage, one of the recommended bonds are

Bonds - Asia
United Asian Bond Fund Class SGD

Bonds - Global
LionGlobal Short Duration Bond Fund

Bonds - Money Market & Short Duration
Cash Fund

Bonds - Singapore-Centric
LionGlobal Spore Fixed Inc-A
United SGD Fund Cl A

any advise on any of these?

and how do i calculate past performance of UT? when i view 'fact sheet', i see some numbers, but cant figure how to count =/
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Are u aware that u are looking at FSM Singapore website? hmm.gif
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post Mar 25 2013, 09:50 AM

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Bro Pink, is it possible to put ur excel at the 1st thread? biggrin.gif i lost it becos now i outstation, hard to keep track of my UT.. becos FSM is using weighed average cost, it is not the price i bought.. i wanna see the price i bought vs the current price.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Mar 25 2013, 09:50 AM)
Bro Pink, is it possible to put ur excel at the 1st thread? biggrin.gif i lost it becos now i outstation, hard to keep track of my UT.. becos FSM is using weighed average cost, it is not the price i bought.. i wanna see the price i bought vs the current price.
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Ok. Done already, u try see got problem or not?

Add: At 1st post of this thread

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post Mar 25 2013, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 25 2013, 09:54 AM)
Ok. Done already, u try see got problem or not?

Add: At 1st post of this thread
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Yeah no problem, thanks mate biggrin.gif
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post Mar 25 2013, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 25 2013, 12:21 AM)
Click the FAQ link on Post #1
Are u aware that u are looking at FSM Singapore website? hmm.gif
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hi pinky, i didnt noticed initially. sweat.gif but im interested to invest in Sg, china and indonesia... any recommended bonds?
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Mar 25 2013, 11:23 AM)
hi pinky, i didnt noticed initially.  sweat.gif  but im interested to invest in Sg, china and indonesia... any recommended bonds?
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For Southeast Asian markets, Hwang Asia Quantum is very good (small-mid cap Asia Ex-Japan equities, but quite heavy on SEA markets).

Look at these too:
OSK-UOB Equity Trust
Hwang Select Asia Ex-Japan Opportunity
Eastspring Investments Asia Pacific Shariah
CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic income

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post Mar 25 2013, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 25 2013, 12:13 PM)
For Southeast Asian markets, Hwang Asia Quantum is very good (small-mid cap Asia Ex-Japan equities, but quite heavy on SEA markets).

Look at these too:
OSK-UOB Equity Trust
Hwang Select Asia Ex-Japan Opportunity
Eastspring Investments Asia Pacific Shariah
CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic income
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noted smile.gif thanks. will have a look~
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post Mar 25 2013, 12:35 PM

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You can also add OSK-UOB ASEAN fund if you want purely ASEAN region. I analysed it before. Quite impressive the performance.

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