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s_kates81
post Mar 22 2013, 03:02 PM

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A little question about Annual Trustee fee, when it's charged? Is it one year after we purchase a fund or in January every year? What if we sell the fund before it reaching a year, say, in 11 months? Do we still have to pay this fee?
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QUOTE(s_kates81 @ Mar 22 2013, 03:02 PM)
A little question about Annual Trustee fee, when it's charged? Is it one year after we purchase a fund or in January every year?  What if we sell the fund before it reaching a year, say, in 11 months? Do we still have to pay this fee?
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it's already factored in the NAV, so you 'do not' see the charge
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QUOTE(s_kates81 @ Mar 22 2013, 03:02 PM)
A little question about Annual Trustee fee, when it's charged? Is it one year after we purchase a fund or in January every year?  What if we sell the fund before it reaching a year, say, in 11 months? Do we still have to pay this fee?
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Go read Post #1 tonight after 9PM, I will insert a new FAQ on fees and its impact on NAV valuation
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post Mar 22 2013, 10:24 PM

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Distribution statement for AmAsiaPacific REIT and AmDynamic Bond are out.
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post Mar 22 2013, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 22 2013, 10:24 PM)
Distribution statement for AmAsiaPacific REIT and AmDynamic Bond are out.
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And I'm still waiting for OSK-UOB Emerging Markets Bond's...
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post Mar 22 2013, 11:00 PM

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s_kates81 read Post #1 icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 23 2013, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 22 2013, 10:31 PM)
And I'm still waiting for OSK-UOB Emerging Markets Bond's...
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Yup, me too... I think can only see the statement around 1 month time, rite? Same case with my OSK-UOB Asian Income Fund's
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QUOTE(kabal82 @ Mar 23 2013, 08:40 AM)
Yup, me too... I think can only see the statement around 1 month time, rite? Same case with my OSK-UOB Asian Income Fund's
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The standard is about 1 month from ex-date. Now my OSK-UOB Income Fund is next to go ex doh.gif
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post Mar 23 2013, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 22 2013, 10:31 PM)
And I'm still waiting for OSK-UOB Emerging Markets Bond's...
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Same here. AmAsia Pac Reits are my first UT dividends, so seeing the email was a cherry popping moment for me. Hehe.
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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Mar 23 2013, 09:44 AM)
Same here. AmAsia Pac Reits are my first UT dividends, so seeing the email was a cherry popping moment for me. Hehe.
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Refresh yourself on what UT dividends mean to us investors...read Post #1 lest u thought that it's some sort of windfall for u tongue.gif

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post Mar 23 2013, 09:57 AM

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Haha yea I read thru a few pages back on how dividends are actually a 'taking from our left hand and giving us on our right hand' situation. Nonetheless, its nice seeing the value of my investments spike up after the drop during ex-date.
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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Mar 23 2013, 09:57 AM)
Haha yea I read thru a few pages back on how dividends are actually a 'taking from our left hand and giving us on our right hand' situation. Nonetheless, its nice seeing the value of my investments spike up after the drop during ex-date.
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BIG DROP - rise - drop - rise - drop - BIG RISE

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That's why I usually stop recording the NAV movements of a fund that went ex, I just "freeze" it at last NAV price before ex-distribution, then update the movements again after the crediting of distribution so as not to mess up the IRR of my portfolio.

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 23 2013, 10:00 AM)
BIG DROP - rise - drop - rise - drop - BIG RISE

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That's why I usually stop recording the NAV movements of a fund that went ex, I just "freeze" it at last NAV price before ex-distribution, then update the movements again after the crediting of distribution so as not to mess up the IRR of my portfolio.
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Hey, thats a good idea. Just recomputed my XIRR. Even before receiving back my OSK OUB EM Bond Fund dividends, it stands ta 9.45%... What took me so long to jump on the UT bandwagon lol. I've been contented with subpar FD rates for so long.

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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Mar 23 2013, 10:13 AM)
Hey, thats a good idea. Just recomputed my XIRR. Even before receiving back my OSK OUB EM Bond Fund dividends, it stands ta 9.45%... What took me so long to jump on the UT bandwagon lol. I've been contented with subpar FD rates for so long.
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Share with us your UT portfolio breakdown? icon_idea.gif

E.g.
Fund A XX%
Fund B X%
Fund C XX%
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post Mar 23 2013, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Mar 23 2013, 10:13 AM)
Hey, thats a good idea. Just recomputed my XIRR. Even before receiving back my OSK OUB EM Bond Fund dividends, it stands ta 9.45%... What took me so long to jump on the UT bandwagon lol. I've been contented with subpar FD rates for so long.
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yes please share your portfolio.. i wish to learn more about UT in this few months, then when the FDs mature can invest in UT instead..
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Mar 23 2013, 10:25 AM)
yes please share your portfolio.. i wish to learn more about UT in this few months, then when the FDs mature can invest in UT instead..
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...post&id=3314350

This palia portfolio delivered IRR of 6.2% as at end of Feb-2013 blush.gif
- Started in 2008
- 2010-2011 disposed a lot of funds, kept only a little
- Major revamp and restarted investing at 2012

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post Mar 23 2013, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Mar 23 2013, 10:25 AM)
yes please share your portfolio.. i wish to learn more about UT in this few months, then when the FDs mature can invest in UT instead..
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Haha, very humble investments la. most of them purchased during the FSM 0.5% promo, so the break even was much quicker.

AmBond ~18%
RHB Bond Fund ~11%
OSK-UOB Emerging Markets Bond ~17%
Hwang Select Balanced Fund ~10.5%
Aberdeen Islamic World Equity ~18%
AmAsia Pacific REITs ~14%
Hwang Asia Quantum Fund ~12%

approx at that range to date, based on current value. I do a monthly topup to whereever I see value and based on the recommendations of the sifus here.


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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 23 2013, 10:35 AM)
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...post&id=3314350

This palia portfolio delivered IRR of 6.2% as at end of Feb-2013 blush.gif
- Started in 2008
- 2010-2011 disposed a lot of funds, kept only a little
- Major revamp and restarted investing at 2012
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rclxms.gif thanks.

haih im only having 3.xx% from FD for the past 3 years.. last year moved some funds to REITs, getting 6.xx%. this year will move some funds to UT. i currently have UO asian income fund, and its only because the bank agent managed to persuade me thumbup.gif

UO AIF ex-date soon right? do u suggest i top up?
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post Mar 23 2013, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Mar 23 2013, 10:54 AM)
Haha, very humble investments la. most of them purchased during the FSM 0.5% promo, so the break even was much quicker.

AmBond ~18%
RHB Bond Fund ~11%
OSK-UOB Emerging Markets Bond ~17%
Hwang Select Balanced Fund ~10.5%
Aberdeen Islamic World Equity ~18%
AmAsia Pacific REITs ~14%
Hwang Asia Quantum Fund ~12%

approx at that range to date, based on current value. I do a monthly topup to whereever I see value and based on the recommendations of the sifus here.
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i didnt know about FSM until few months back.. OCBC charge me 4% SC leh.. so now reading up on FSM and see what i can do sweat.gif

i see many ppl have Ambond and OSKUOB Emerging Markets bond, many i should look into it hmm.gif
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Mar 23 2013, 10:54 AM)
rclxms.gif thanks.

haih im only having 3.xx% from FD for the past 3 years.. last year moved some funds to REITs, getting 6.xx%. this year will move some funds to UT. i currently have UO asian income fund, and its only because the bank agent managed to persuade me  thumbup.gif

UO AIF ex-date soon right? do u suggest i top up?
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Go to Post #1, read the FAQs sleep.gif

QUOTE(Hevrn @ Mar 23 2013, 10:54 AM)
Haha, very humble investments la. most of them purchased during the FSM 0.5% promo, so the break even was much quicker.

AmBond ~18%
RHB Bond Fund ~11%
OSK-UOB Emerging Markets Bond ~17%
Hwang Select Balanced Fund ~10.5%
Aberdeen Islamic World Equity ~18%
AmAsia Pacific REITs ~14%
Hwang Asia Quantum Fund ~12%

approx at that range to date, based on current value. I do a monthly topup to whereever I see value and based on the recommendations of the sifus here.
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Your UT portfolio is like a "Greatest Hits" compilation thumbup.gif

That's effectively about 60% in equities, 40% in bonds...

Thanks to FSM, we can have most of the great funds under 1 distributor, convenient and cheap rclxms.gif

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Mar 23 2013, 11:04 AM

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