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ben3003
post Mar 4 2013, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 4 2013, 08:50 PM)
Kaka, that day u were sitting with the HwangIM representative, u got his contact?

HwangIM website since the makeover is displaying prior day NAV...i.e. when I click to view fund prices, it shows 01-Mar-2013 NAV but those NAV prices shown are 28-Feb-2013 prices (I confirmed against Bloomberg and FSM data) doh.gif
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yalo.. hwangim change new website the price become slower than FSM liao lolz..
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post Mar 5 2013, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 5 2013, 09:53 AM)
Anyone with experience investing EPF a/c 1 money with FSM? Can share how's the process like? I'm thinking to buy Hwang Select Opportunity with EPF money hmm.gif
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u confident HSO can perform better than EPF 6% ? haha..
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post Mar 5 2013, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 5 2013, 10:21 AM)
Yeah, 3-year, 5-year and 10-year historical data proved it. And I've got the time to let it catch up should equities underperform for 1 or 2 years. smile.gif
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haha biggrin.gif if it follows the trend then shouldnt be a prob lol.
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post Mar 5 2013, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 5 2013, 10:33 AM)
Don't wanna lend too much money to our rotten government laugh.gif

On a serious note, doubt I will need to purchase a house of my own since I'm the only child, marry also will live with my dad. Might as well take on a little more risk in search of more returns.
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oh.. why is it related to buy house? can u use epf to buy house?
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post Mar 5 2013, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Mar 5 2013, 10:55 AM)
Hi ben3003,

  I do simple model calc buying rm 400k, require 10% pay from EPF account 2.
The person work for 5 year equivalent salary permonth to save rm40k

Assumtion house above rm400k, then account 2 also atleast minimum rm40k
10% house down payment = rm40,000
5year EPF contribution with montly to Acc2 =rm 666.6666667
Acc 1 70% montly = rm1555.555556
Acc 2 30%monthly =rm 666.6666667
Montly Contribution to EPF=rm 2222.222222
Employee Salary using revese EPF contribute 11% + 12% = rm7911.111111
the person need to earn rm 8k per month for 5 year only can save rm40k to pay 10% down payment.
I remove the yearly EPF dividend, to made it simple clear cut for 5year flat saving.

notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif Forgive me i do any wrong calc let me know, juz to share my view and my maths.
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 5 2013, 10:57 AM)
Yea, up to 20% of your A/C 1 excess can be used to invest/buy house
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Oh ok, understood.. but this is only if u buy using EPF lo.. if u downpayment use cash then this not an issue right? i tot is a requirement..

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post Mar 5 2013, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Mar 5 2013, 03:04 PM)
Shld be account 2. Pay 10% downpayment must hv cash to pay upfront within 3year from SnP can redem from account 2 EPF.

I used my EPF for UT investment in Public Mutual. long term becoz i dont want EPF used my money buy/sell stock by paying back vmad.gif  less then UT.

By the way i open EPF-Public Regular Saving Fund during Aug/2008@0.5033 & Mei/2009@0.4582 Financial Tsunami.
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hmm, so should be clever abit to switch to UT? biggrin.gif but need a more stable and less risky one, few percent higher than EPF then very happy liao haha.. so HSO is considered a good choice? any other selections?
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post Mar 5 2013, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 5 2013, 07:50 PM)
HSO only if u are adventurous, OSK-UOB KidSave Trust highly recommended, its a very solid balanced fund.
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kk gonna take a look. Something weird, Hang Seng dropped quite alot yesterday, but HAQ NAV still managed to climb, abit abit lol.. i expect it to drop lol..
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post Mar 5 2013, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 5 2013, 07:56 PM)
I already said, yesterday's crash was driven by property stocks which are mostly large cap stocks, Hwang AQ invests in smaller caps. Read the news la bro... tongue.gif
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haha i see HAQ hold CCB in its top 10 holdings ma.. banking sector also drop..
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post Mar 5 2013, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 5 2013, 08:38 PM)
Yeah my Hwang Global Financial Institutions down 0.33% yesterday, as I said yesterday drop driven by property stocks in HK/China, and usually when property stocks selldown, banking stocks also kena cos the 2 sectors are closely related.
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oh.. kk still learning, learned something new everyday biggrin.gif now waiting RSP date so i have extra UT go into my portfolio lolz..
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post Mar 5 2013, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 5 2013, 08:48 PM)
+100

That's why I only buy OSK-UOB funds that I believe can hold for long-term.
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wat are the funds tat u believe in? biggrin.gif
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post Mar 5 2013, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 5 2013, 08:55 PM)
With OSK-UOB I have Income Fund, Global Equity Yield and Emerging Markets Bond.

And of course, Cash Management Fund laugh.gif
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LOL CMF da best biggrin.gif now climb to 3%pa edi haha.. Suddenly saw ur avatar changed i tot wrong ppl replied my post with quote hahaha..
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post Mar 7 2013, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(wayne84 @ Mar 7 2013, 09:52 PM)
Actually...US market now also quite scary when hitting all time high....we can not time the market folks....jus follow the flow and keep amour....need to turn down the monthly top up into GEM + world + China/asia fund as well.....have no direction wher market heading now...except japan
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if like wat u said means go defensive? park all inside CMF fund? becos bond also very uncertain ma haha..
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post Mar 7 2013, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 7 2013, 10:11 PM)
Do Value Averaging on your portfolio as a whole, e.g. if u plan to "value up" RM500 a month, but your portfolio went up RM300 last month, just top up RM200 on your portfolio, top up on the laggards. That's what I do.
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hmm, tis i cannot really understand, why need to do this? if rise then u top up the same amount not better? if not like the rise in ur invest is equal to nothing.. becos like u every month u got rm500 to invest in UT, but now u only invest rm300 to ur portfolio, then 200 u put where?

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post Mar 7 2013, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 7 2013, 10:26 PM)
CMF lo doh.gif

*think reverse scenario*

If u top up RM500 come rain or shine, what about a month when your portfolio kaboom go -RM300? Still top up RM500? Then it's net +RM200 for the month...

I'm of the opinion that Value Averaging is superior to Dollar Cost Averaging. With DCA, u might end up deploying your cash even when the market is overheating. With VCA, u top up more when the market crash, top up less (or even stop topping up altogether) when the market rallied hard.
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oh ok, so with VCA, if tat particular portfolio dropped rm200 tis month, so u add rm700 next month? then if ur portfolio keep earning rm500 every month u also cannot top up if u stick with the VCA? haha..

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post Mar 9 2013, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 9 2013, 12:08 PM)
Hi there,

Take a look at my portfolio
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...post&id=3314350

That was last month's position, some changes were made since then but not really that significant. wink.gif
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wow so many fund biggrin.gif HAQ giving me 4% return for around 1week plus, doing quite well tis fund, not affected by HSI slump biggrin.gif i saw they switched their CCB holdings to other things.. great decision, banking is doing bad in HSI currently.
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post Mar 9 2013, 01:01 PM

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Yup, it's China Construction Bank, even when dealer talked to me CCB she also curi curi laughed abit biggrin.gif
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post Mar 10 2013, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(greyPJ @ Mar 10 2013, 10:38 PM)
about 100k
ahhhhhh im scared liao, but the return for 10 years is more than 100%, everyvyear also make money
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u see them every year make money is history already.. doesnt mean tis year they will perform same, better or worst. It is still a high risk fund. u wan sai lang we also cannot how haha.. but don put all eggs in 1 basket, so not so risky, return maybe lower but when loss, u dont lose everything biggrin.gif
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post Mar 12 2013, 06:22 PM

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anyone have issue logging in fundsupermart?
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post Mar 12 2013, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Mar 12 2013, 06:45 PM)
Let me guess - U loggin in from office? Where yr IT ppl has setup a load balancer?
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FSM's system can't handle it the last i tried - multiple IPs while "keeping the same password token".
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oh kk.. i reload the page try again can edi.. very weird haha.. i access from home tho..
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post Mar 14 2013, 10:37 AM

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yeah tomorrow can get RSP edi.. then i terminate it then i can top up those funds anytime haha.. only can top up at 15th is too long.. cannot tahan, money come in end of month, at 15th oledi use half liao lol..

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