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hanishoney
post Jan 16 2015, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(AjiAjo @ Jan 16 2015, 08:43 PM)
I just came across something seemingly new with ECE R44 certification which are below RM500.
http://www.koopers.co/cat-car-seat.cfm
Apparently most comes with 4 years warranty and infant insert.

Anyone have come across this car seat?
Actually I wonder how to verify the ECE R44 certification as well...
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I've seen this new brand in nearly all the Malaysian online baby shops, but so far, none of the online baby shops actually claim that they are ECE R44 certified. Don't rely on word of mouth. Either have it in black and white, where the webpage describing the carseat says ECE R44 CERTIFIED, or see the ECE R44 sticker for yourself. At least then, if it turns out to be a lie, you have black-and-white proof that they claimed the certification when they didn't have it, and you can make a police report for cheating and take them to small claims court.

Verifying the ECE R44 certification involves first looking at the sticker, because the sticker gives the initial info about the certification. It's in a code though. For basic info about the sticker, can start with this: http://www.bebeconfort.com/car-seat-safety...4-04-label.aspx. You especially need to figure out the country code that the certification comes from. Then you have to determine who is the car seat regulator of that country and contact that regulator for verification.

Personally, this is why I prefer buying American crash tested car seats. Centralized authority, lots of online info with specifically listed brands, so harder to fake. But obviously, they're more expensive, because the cheap seats don't get exported.

This post has been edited by hanishoney: Jan 16 2015, 09:29 PM
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post Jan 18 2015, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(hanishoney @ Jan 16 2015, 09:20 PM)
I've seen this new brand in nearly all the Malaysian online baby shops, but so far, none of the online baby shops actually claim that they are ECE R44 certified. Don't rely on word of mouth. Either have it in black and white, where the webpage describing the carseat says ECE R44 CERTIFIED, or see the ECE R44 sticker for yourself. At least then, if it turns out to be a lie, you have black-and-white proof that they claimed the certification when they didn't have it, and you can make a police report for cheating and take them to small claims court.

Verifying the ECE R44 certification involves first looking at the sticker, because the sticker gives the initial info about the certification. It's in a code though. For basic info about the sticker, can start with this: http://www.bebeconfort.com/car-seat-safety...4-04-label.aspx. You especially need to figure out the country code that the certification comes from. Then you have to determine who is the car seat regulator of that country and contact that regulator for verification.

Personally, this is why I prefer buying American crash tested car seats. Centralized authority, lots of online info with specifically listed brands, so harder to fake. But obviously, they're more expensive, because the cheap seats don't get exported.
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how about infa secure luxi caprice, safe or not ?
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post Jan 19 2015, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(systemup @ Jan 18 2015, 07:37 PM)
how about infa secure luxi caprice, safe or not ?
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First and foremost, let me remind everyone again, that all car seats are only safe IF installed and used in your car correctly. No matter how crash tested it is, if you use your creativity to install it instead of following the instructions, or if your kid's harness is threaded through the wrong slot, or if you didn't tighten the harness enough around your kid, your car seat can hurt people instead of saving them.

InfaSecure Luxi Caprice is Australian. Australia have their own standards, which is still better than Malaysian standards, because Malaysia has NO standards.

I downloaded the InfaSecure Luxi Caprice manual from their website: http://infasecure.com.au/wp-content/upload...S-ISSUE-B_1.pdf

And on page 7, under WARNINGS, the last point says:
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THIS RESTRAINT MUST BE ATTACHED TO A CHILD RESTRAINT ANCHORAGE POINT IN THE CAR. REFER TO CAR OWNER’S HANDBOOK FOR LOCATION OF ANCHORAGE POINTS. REFER TO A CHILD RESTRAINT FITTING STATION IF NO CAR ANCHORAGE POINTS ARE IN THE MOTOR CAR.

So, for this carseat to be safe, depends on whether your car has a child restraint anchorage point. If you have a car that you bought in Australia, then you can call the Australian dealer you bought your car from and ask about installing the anchorage point (if it's not already installed). The manual even has more phone numbers you can call in Australia.

If your car is not from Australia, read your car manual. Does your car have isofix? If your car has isofix/latch, then your car will have a child restraint anchorage point (or two or three), which would be known as top tether or top anchorage point.

But if you have isofix in your car, if you haven't already bought this carseat, you might as well buy a carseat with isofix installation, because it'd be easier to install correctly. The Luxi Caprice manual looks complicated and confusing to understand. If you don't believe me, download it and read it for yourself because I provided the link.

If your car doesn't have the top tether of an isofix and your car manual does NOT mention any type of child restraint anchorage point in addition to using the seatbelt, then this carseat will NOT be safe to use in your car.

It is always best to read your car manual AND the carseat manual before you buy any carseat, to find installation incompatibilities like this.

This post has been edited by hanishoney: Jan 19 2015, 11:43 AM
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post Jan 20 2015, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(hanishoney @ Jan 19 2015, 11:39 AM)
First and foremost, let me remind everyone again, that all car seats are only safe IF installed and used in your car correctly. No matter how crash tested it is, if you use your creativity to install it instead of following the instructions, or if your kid's harness is threaded through the wrong slot, or if you didn't tighten the harness enough around your kid, your car seat can hurt people instead of saving them.

InfaSecure Luxi Caprice is Australian. Australia have their own standards, which is still better than Malaysian standards, because Malaysia has NO standards.

I downloaded the InfaSecure Luxi Caprice manual from their website: http://infasecure.com.au/wp-content/upload...S-ISSUE-B_1.pdf

And on page 7, under WARNINGS, the last point says:
So, for this carseat to be safe, depends on whether your car has a child restraint anchorage point. If you have a car that you bought in Australia, then you can call the Australian dealer you bought your car from and ask about installing the anchorage point (if it's not already installed). The manual even has more phone numbers you can call in Australia.

If your car is not from Australia, read your car manual. Does your car have isofix? If your car has isofix/latch, then your car will have a child restraint anchorage point (or two or three), which would be known as top tether or top anchorage point.

But if you have isofix in your car, if you haven't already bought this carseat, you might as well buy a carseat with isofix installation, because it'd be easier to install correctly. The Luxi Caprice manual looks complicated and confusing to understand. If you don't believe me, download it and read it for yourself because I provided the link.

If your car doesn't have the top tether of an isofix and your car manual does NOT mention any type of child restraint anchorage point in addition to using the seatbelt, then this carseat will NOT be safe to use in your car.

It is always best to read your car manual AND the carseat manual before you buy any carseat, to find installation incompatibilities like this.
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ya ya my car got anchorage point ,must be safe lor.......isofix car seat very expensive, cheapest rm 13xx sweat.gif sweat.gif , this car seat can use to 8years smile.gif
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post Jan 20 2015, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(systemup @ Jan 20 2015, 01:39 PM)
ya ya my car got anchorage point ,must be safe lor.......isofix car seat very expensive, cheapest rm 13xx sweat.gif  sweat.gif , this car seat can use to 8years  smile.gif
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Remember, it has to be installed CORRECTLY to be safe. Do read the manual and confirm you can figure out how to install every stage correctly. If you can't install correctly, you're paying money to ENDANGER everyone in your car. Might as well endanger everyone for free.

Also, don't assume that you can use it for 8 years. Remember that you have to replace your carseat if you have a car accident. Even if it's just a small car accident, the forces of impact in an accident can damage a carseat in ways we cannot see from the outside. If our car insurance would replace carseats like they do in Europe or America, then no issue, but unfortunately, after an accident in Malaysia, we have to fork out our own money to buy another carseat if we get into an accident.

To me, booster seats are pretty cheap. Even Sweet Cherry has (had; currently out of stock) an ECE R44 certified booster for RM250. They're cheap because they only help fit your kid to the car's seatbelts. Booster seats are not the actual part doing the protecting. I would rather increase my budget for a carseat that will last me 4-5 years that I KNOW I can install properly in my car, and when my kid outgrow the carseat, buy a cheap booster.

LATCH carseats (American) are cheaper than ISOFIX (European) and work exactly the same way. The Graco carseats I list here are currently both RM560 and the Evenflo is RM700 at First Few Years, a shop you can find at the Curve or at Paradigm. Make sure to read the manual and try to install the carseat on their dummy chair before buying!
http://www.firstfewyears.com.my/graco-clas...e-car-seat.html
http://www.firstfewyears.com.my/graco-comf...e-car-seat.html
http://www.firstfewyears.com.my/evenflo-su...e-car-seat.html

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post Jan 26 2015, 07:28 PM

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Joie has new model - Joie Steadi (Something in between Tilt and Stage) with auto adjust seat belt height than Tilt.

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post Jan 28 2015, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(paultantk @ Sep 21 2014, 12:50 AM)
I self imported a britax max fix designed to be rear facing up to 18 kg.

highly recommend it
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Do u incur any import tax/duty from malaysia custom?
Mind to share more info?
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post Jan 28 2015, 08:21 PM

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yes i did. kena whack around RM1000 at customs. had to go the kastam near the old LCCT to pay and claim the seat.

anyway if i were to buy a similiar "spec" seat now i would go for Concord Reverso which the official distributor confirmed are bringing in. no need to mafan self import.

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post Jan 28 2015, 08:54 PM

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Anyone selling used car seat? Please PM me.. Prefer Graco, Maxi Cosi, Peg Perego
hanishoney
post Jan 29 2015, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(Allise @ Jan 28 2015, 12:32 AM)
Do u incur any import tax/duty from malaysia custom?
Mind to share more info?
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My sister was in the USA, so she flew back to Malaysia with two Combi Coccoros AND two Medela PISA breastpumps for her sisters as part of her luggage. She told customs that she didn't know the price because they were gifts from American friends to her sisters, and customs just charged her RM50 in TOTAL.

With customs, it does depend on your luck.
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post Jan 29 2015, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(paultantk @ Jan 28 2015, 08:21 PM)
yes i did. kena whack around RM1000 at customs. had to go the kastam near the old LCCT to pay and claim the seat.

anyway if i were to buy a similiar "spec" seat now i would go for Concord Reverso which the official distributor confirmed are bringing in. no need to mafan self import.
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shocking.gif then I better not to import from others country liao.. It's not worth cry.gif
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Bought this last year in Midvalley fair for RM399.
IMO, not bad smile.gif

http://www.sweetcherry.com.my/index.php?ro...&product_id=109
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post Jan 30 2015, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Jan 30 2015, 12:04 PM)
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Bought this last year in Midvalley fair for RM399.
IMO, not bad smile.gif

http://www.sweetcherry.com.my/index.php?ro...&product_id=109
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My understanding is that not all Sweet Cherry carseats (very few of them, in fact) are certified as crash tested. So I would not recommend to rely on them to save your child's life in case of car accident, unless you have confirmed that the one you purchased is certified by a specific government body with crash testing requirements for child carseats. I know of only one that was certified (under Europe's ECE R44) and it was a booster seat, not a 5-point harness seat.

If anyone has had a child in an uncertified carseat that survived a car accident, do share the brand and name of the carseat! Saving money is always awesome, as long as it also saves lives.
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QUOTE(hanishoney @ Jan 30 2015, 12:27 PM)
My understanding is that not all Sweet Cherry carseats (very few of them, in fact) are certified as crash tested. So I would not recommend to rely on them to save your child's life in case of car accident, unless you have confirmed that the one you purchased is certified by a specific government body with crash testing requirements for child carseats. I know of only one that was certified (under Europe's ECE R44) and it was a booster seat, not a 5-point harness seat.

If anyone has had a child in an uncertified carseat that survived a car accident, do share the brand and name of the carseat! Saving money is always awesome, as long as it also saves lives.
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Accident happens,and there is no best safety belt can save you from fatal accident. As long as it meets the requirement of sitting safe in car strapped on, and comfortable for baby, then I think it's the best choice already.

Accident mostly happens when you overspeeding, and your kids are bothering (not strapped on car seat) you while driving. I also do not deny that accidents happens out of your hand but out of 3 factors, 66% chances of accident to happen are in your hand. So yeah
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QUOTE(hanishoney @ Jan 30 2015, 12:27 PM)
My understanding is that not all Sweet Cherry carseats (very few of them, in fact) are certified as crash tested. So I would not recommend to rely on them to save your child's life in case of car accident, unless you have confirmed that the one you purchased is certified by a specific government body with crash testing requirements for child carseats. I know of only one that was certified (under Europe's ECE R44) and it was a booster seat, not a 5-point harness seat.

If anyone has had a child in an uncertified carseat that survived a car accident, do share the brand and name of the carseat! Saving money is always awesome, as long as it also saves lives.
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At least for this model, I saw that it has the ECE R44 sticker, and this is not it's most expensive model. I expect its other more expensive models to have that certification as well. But best to confirm before ordering. By the way, buying from Lazada is much cheaper for this brand.

http://www.sweetcherry.com.my/?route=produ...t&product_id=70

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post Jan 30 2015, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Jan 30 2015, 12:47 PM)
Accident happens,and there is no best safety belt can save you from fatal accident. As long as it meets the requirement of sitting safe in car strapped on, and comfortable for baby, then I think it's the best choice already.

Accident mostly happens when you overspeeding, and your kids are bothering (not strapped on car seat) you while driving. I also do not deny that accidents happens out of your hand but out of 3 factors, 66% chances of accident to happen are in your hand. So yeah
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But choosing a carseat that has been crash tested means that it can save you from the accident that the crash testing simulates, which is actually the most frequent type of car accidents that happens. Carseats that ARE not crash tested can actually CAUSE INJURY. You might as well not buy at all and save your money. I know of a mother who DIED when everyone else in the car did not, because her head smashed into her child's carseat. I think it's a waste of money to buy a carseat that is not crash tested because it can actually INCREASE the chance of death, not reduce it.

And actually, the most frequent accident doesn't happen when overspeeding, but in traffic jam after work, when all the drivers are tired and someone was just too tired to press the pedal correctly. That is admittedly not a fatal accident, but it CAN cause INJURY. I myself have been in that kind of accident. My son was in his certified, properly installed car seat, and slept through the whole thing. The car in front of me was not moving, but they didn't wear their seatbelts and hit their head on the dashboard. If they had had a baby in their arms, the baby would have flown forward into the dashboard/windshield and while may not have died, may have been hurt. If there had been a "carseat" that was not tightly secured, the carseat could have flown forward and hit the driver or front passenger and KILLED them, due to the weight and strength of the carseat (this is what happened to my friend's sister in law). The front of my car needed some knocking, and the bumper and both front lights had to be replaced. So please take note that a non-fatal accident can BECOME fatal because a carseat was in the car, and not installed properly or was not crash tested to ensure no harm happens in a crash.

Crash testing is not just to ensure that the child survives that car accident, but to ensure that the car seat doesn't cause injury to other passengers in a car accident.
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post Jan 30 2015, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(hairybelly @ Jan 30 2015, 01:42 PM)
At least for this model, I saw that it has the ECE R44 sticker, and this is not it's most expensive model. I expect its other more expensive models to have that certification as well. But best to confirm before ordering. By the way, buying from Lazada is much cheaper for this brand.

http://www.sweetcherry.com.my/?route=produ...t&product_id=70
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Good to know that it has the ECE R44 sticker! Pity that they don't write it on their website. I wonder why? It's such an important selling point.
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QUOTE(Apple_Apple @ Jan 28 2015, 08:54 PM)
Anyone selling used car seat? Please PM me.. Prefer Graco, Maxi Cosi, Peg Perego
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For used baby good, you may join the facebook closed group - Preloved Baby Goods Malaysia.
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I have bought the new britax pavilion click tight, i would say it is very convenient and easy to install using the new click tight system. it is also rated for 10 years of usage which means i can use it for his sibling after he out grow the seat. Using the most likely height as reference, i think i can use this until he is 6 years old.

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