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TSKrisMas
post Jun 26 2013, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 26 2013, 04:44 PM)
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eh who's CYC btw?
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Clean Your Car - a UK based online detailing products supplier
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post Jun 28 2013, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(wingchiew @ Jun 28 2013, 01:56 PM)
- Do you polish your brand new car right after you collect it?
Sent your car to a reputable detailer for evaluation. But chances are you would need to polish it.

- Are those full auto-detailing packages you find on deal sites like groupon a good choice for starters?
I just can't seem to even have a 2nd look on those...too many 'scammers' out there.

- How often do you need to do such detailing?
Difficult to say. It all depends on how good (or bad) you maintain your car. I've seen cars that are well maintained (daily driven) and still doesn't need any MAJOR detailing even after 1 1/2 years.
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post Jun 29 2013, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(thom_chai @ Jun 28 2013, 06:21 PM)
Doing some test spot on the dirty cushion. I'm loving the meguiar's APC biggrin.gif
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Nice one. What dilution?

QUOTE(flowerhorn @ Jun 28 2013, 10:02 PM)
All purpose cleaner. Semua pun boleh. Lol. Duragloss ultimate orange & hecta pl considered apc?
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DG UO is an APC, and because its citrious bases, it can also be use as a mild degreaser. 1:20~25 for interior, 1-10~15 for exterior (as apc), 1:5~neat for light degreasing.

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 29 2013, 02:36 AM)
can find people share wut (bring own bottle/spray bottle plz)

and yes i dont mind selling some because i don't see myself finishing a gallon anytime soon LOL
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Well....you haven't found it's full potential yet...say...household use....LOL
TSKrisMas
post Jun 29 2013, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(flowerhorn @ Jun 29 2013, 09:21 AM)
I got the IPA thanks to bro arj for pointing out the link. I used it neat to remove the paint transfer and it came off easily. I'm concern now that it was too strong for the clear coat. Anyone knows what would be the correct dilution to use? But daym, first time using ipa and it was excellent stuff!
Even using it neat, it wont harm the paint, IPA is a very weak solvent. But it'll be a little wasted if u use the spray method as some would have evaporated before it has the time to do its job. Better go 1:1 with distilled water....or 25% even....then you wound have time to wipe whatever it desolved before they're dry up again.
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post Jun 29 2013, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(thom_chai @ Jun 29 2013, 09:37 AM)
1:10 Hopefully powerful enough to tackle the rest of the seats and carpet, hahaha.
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Wanna try going 1:15 and see whether it also work. Cuz i think 1:10 is too strong for fabrics....and also would be a little bit more difficult to rinse off thoroughly....I normally use around 1:20, but if it's as soiled as the picture shows, a stronger dilution would be better.
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post Jul 2 2013, 02:18 PM

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For 'artificial' lighting/'swirl finder'/defect checking, next best (after the sun) would be a high CRI torchlight/floodlight (like the street light). But normal halogen/metal halide/LED with 3000k ~ 4500k colour temp would do fine. But for those surface defects like orange peel, oxidations, burn through, etc. normal fluorescent tube would do. A high powered LED is also very handy (cuz it's very portable) but couldn't show hologram marks very well.
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post Jul 3 2013, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Jul 3 2013, 09:30 AM)
Also, does anyone know where I can source a detailing brush set, except on eBay? Would prefer to find it locally before subjected to brutal amounts of shipping costs.
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What brush/usage?
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post Jul 3 2013, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Jul 3 2013, 09:39 AM)
Typically for exterior like for emblems, and door jambs. If I can't find a better price around I'd most likely be looking for this set.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160908922447?ssPag...984.m1438.l2649
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RM5 for 3 batang at Giant, paint supply/accessories section....'al-cheapo' but works la. After a few usage the bristles got hardened a little la but, at that price, I just throw away (or save it for brushing non-painted). Can't compare because haven't got those al-expensive ones before...
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post Jul 3 2013, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Jul 3 2013, 04:46 PM)
I can't find any resources which OPC changes color after contact with grease though.
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*mental note: another one into the list of tests to do*
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post Jul 4 2013, 11:07 AM

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For those of you who are wondering what Hyperdressing is, it's a water-based dressing for interior/exterior rubber, plastics, vinyl, etc. It comes in a concentrated form, i.e. for usage, recommended dilution from 1:1 ~ 1:4, the stronger the dilution and shinier the finish.

I particularly like the HD because it's easy to use especially for dressing the engine bay and wheel wells. After cleaning, I spray it on and just let it dry....no need to wipe except if there's overspray, etc.

I don't have any recent pics but here's roughly how it looks. Remember, this is just spray on and walk away...no wiping....

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Oh...and like always, proper cleaning is the key for best results. But with HD, after cleaning I can straight away spray on the wet engine/engine bay, start the engine and let the heat do the drying and....voila....
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post Jul 4 2013, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Jul 4 2013, 11:18 AM)
KrisMas, how long does an application of HD on exterior trim averagely last?
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Won't last too long on exterior (exposed) trim...since it's water based. I'd say...maybe...2 or 3 washes. The HD excels more on conveniences...spray on and leave dry. So, other then for engine bay & wheel wells, I don't use it much for anything else. On tyres the shine can only last for around one week or so (at 1:4 dilution).
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post Jul 5 2013, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Jul 4 2013, 09:34 PM)
Thanks. Is it sticky or does it sling off, or anything like that? I'm currently using those RM10-ish water based tyre shines - TBH they work well enough on plastic, but it's just prone to sling and smear. After driving for a day I can see the dust collected all around the trim.
On tyres, it will sling if still wet. If use on exterior trims, you would get a little bit of runs if exposed to heavy rain. When dry, it's non-greasy and *almost* completely dry to touch and won't 'hold' dirt. I do prefer something else instead of HD for trims.
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post Jul 6 2013, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Jul 6 2013, 12:01 AM)
Is there something you can recommend to us KrisMas? smile.gif
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For exterior trims?

Smooth (coated) plastics - use whatever sealant/wax you're using on the paint.
Smooth or textured (non coated) plastics - something gel/silicone based. I like Autoglym Bumper Care.
Rubber trims - ermm...this would be a little bit unconventional, but I do like Megs Endurance for exterior rubber trims.

But if looking for one single products for all, I'd say Optimum Opti Bond is a good all rounder.

But, saying all that, there would be certain application technique in order to minimise runs due to rain, etc. For one thing, needless to say they need to be cleaned. Then use the products sparringly with a cloth and, sort of like, working the product in to form just a thin layer. Then let it dry before exposing them to water or if want to apply a second layer. All the above products would leave a litthe sticky/greasy feel so you'd need to do another round of wiping with a dry cloth, if required, to remove the excess.
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post Jul 7 2013, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Jul 7 2013, 09:27 PM)
Just had a round of try out on the degreaser (1:3)... Guess I really need a power washer.

Still plenty of dirt for this 5 years old car, and never have the engine bay cleaned.

But after wash, there are plenty of oil on the floor. So if any of you wanted to try this method and wash your engine bay, do take note that your floor will get very dirty.
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Errrmm...Megs Super Degreaser? Isn't 1:3 a little above the recommended dilution/strength. Carefull.....
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post Jul 8 2013, 07:55 AM

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Time to get some brushes then. Those baby bottle brushes (especially those with long handle) would come in handy for the engine bay, especially for those hard-to-reach areas.
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post Jul 8 2013, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Jul 8 2013, 02:08 PM)
Also, I noticed the tub says to not use the wax on plastics and rubber trims - now why is this so? Is this a characteristic property of paste waxes?
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Because it'll leave a whitish stain (polish-like) residue on plastics/rubber.
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post Jul 8 2013, 08:49 PM

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Yeah man....awsome find on the pdf file. Now can bring it along when going window shopping at Autobacs. Thanks a whole lot man.
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post Jul 9 2013, 05:35 PM

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Extremeautodetailing....my place to visit if (and that's a BIG if) I were to send my car(s) for somebody else to do....hehehe....
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post Jul 9 2013, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Jul 9 2013, 05:38 PM)
thanks for the tip krismas!!

i figure buying my own bosch would be more rewarding though... but what with the pads to use, i'm lost sad.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Pads, compound, polishes, microfiber cloths, etc....what car(s) ah?

Basically you'd need compunding/cutting pads (min 2 nos) to go with a compound - e.g. Lake Country 5.5" yellow/orange pad with Megs Ultimate Compound.
Then polishing pads (min 2 nos) to go with a polish - e.g. LC 5.5" white with Megs Ultimate Polish.
Then a finishing pad for light polishing/AIO/sealant/etc.
Also don't forget to get a few microfiber cloths (at least 3, but the more the better) for buffing off the compond/polish/sealant.

I would advice to get 2 pads if you intend to do the whole car or even half a car since the pad would become caked up with compound/polish and would need to be washed after a couple of panels. But if you intend to do one or two panel per session, then one of each would be enough.
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post Jul 10 2013, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(awcc @ Jul 9 2013, 10:47 PM)
Had anyone try using the Bosch GWS 7-100ET variable speed angel grinder as a polisher/buffer? It had a speed from 2800-11000 rpm. I was thinking to get this with a Velcro backing.
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Never tried before, but 2800rpm is very high considering people would go up to only about 2100~2500rpm on the rotary....

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