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 Car Care and Detailing [V2], LYN Automotive Detailing Thread

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TSKrisMas
post Jun 11 2013, 06:00 PM

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Oh? Ahhh....secretly ah?
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post Jun 11 2013, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(ChiaKhai @ Jun 11 2013, 07:01 PM)
speaking of machine;

I bought a G110 here on LYN. with a transformer.
used 3 times with the 115V plug on the transformer then only noticed I probably should plug in at 110V  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

since last time overheat and burnt my pad (the white thing that stick with the backing plate melted and torn)
I feel something odd with my DA.

the sound like a bit awkward, and I feel like its not rotating properly
*dont know if Im reacting over the incident of the DA really have problems   sad.gif

can Sifus help me out?
Don't know about the wrong voltage use, but I know a little bit about the pad/backing plate rotation. Firstly, even though the G110/G220 is called a 'DA', it's not really a 'Dual Action' per se (vibrate & rotate at the same time), its actually a form of Random Orbital machine. The backing plate is fixed onto a free spinning spindle , i.e. the pad can spin freely. Hence you can safely put your hand onto the pad when the machine is on and can stop the pad frm spinning. It's the friction between the pad & the paint that's really causing the pad to spin. So, to get the pad to spin correctly when polishing, you have to have the face of the pad as flat as possible with the surface and the pressure exerted is just right. If you angle it in a certain way with certain pressure, the pad can stop spinning or even spin the other way around.

A true 'Dual Action' would be like the Flex 3401 VRG or the Makita...err...I think its the 9040 or something...which have, what we commonly called, a 'forced rotation' whereby you can't stop the pad from rotating.

Another possible reason for the velcro delamination would be due to heat. Although the surface of the paint don't heat up that much as compared to using the rotary, due to the random orbital movement, the pad itself would generate quite some heat internally. The heat, coupled with the orbital movement could weaken the adhesive and delaminate the velcro that's glued to the foam. So far i found that this could happen when either working with the same pad for too long with too much pressure, or when the pad is damp or cacked up with compound/polishes.

Keep practicing trying to hold the machine so as to get the pad to be as flat as possible and try to find that 'sweet spot' with the pressure to get the necessary spinning speed.

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post Jun 11 2013, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(SupremeCareForYou @ Jun 11 2013, 10:34 PM)
Yes we do...
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LOL....kinda quoting 'old' post there. Where have you been bro?
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post Jun 12 2013, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(sakurazz @ Jun 12 2013, 12:12 AM)
hi sifus here..

it seems it enters the clear coat..

anyone know how to clean this?

tried with pressure with wax and even small dips of petrol, still can't

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Hrrmm...is that rust? Iron remover.....?

QUOTE(mav3rick @ Jun 12 2013, 02:17 PM)
you're right, the D156 is the pro/detailer line version of the UQW. Same purpose, different packaging, different scent smile.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 12 2013, 02:26 PM)
i see, so actually different product hehe

good for spraying when car's still wet? since i dont think it was mentioned anywhere
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D156 is the pro version of UQW, same product tweeked for the pros. Might not be identical but, normally, I found that their performace/usage is better as compared to the consumer version as they don't have to worry about the average Joe goofing up the usage and taking advantage of the 'satisfaction guarantee or your money back' thingy that they have over there....oh...and not to mention far far cheaper....hahaha....
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post Jun 12 2013, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 12 2013, 05:01 PM)
hehe thanks for the confirmation sifu  notworthy.gif

btw he mentioned it was bird dropping, should be ez job no need sanding right?  rclxub.gif
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After reading about the stuffs that he tried, it doesn't sound like any 'normal' poop. Anyway, the colour do look like rust....a 'heavy metal' birdie...???!!!

@sakurazz, how does the surface on that particular area feels like? Or, better still, you know anybody who has those 30X handheld microscope or something similar....?
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post Jun 12 2013, 08:51 PM

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ohmy.gif That looks awful. Definitely a re-paint job...some dents work too...you're looking at around RM600 for a decent paintjob. Price would vary a lot though, depending on the level of workmanship you're looking for.
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post Jun 19 2013, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(arj @ Jun 18 2013, 11:02 PM)
Received a shipment today from the recent Father's Day sale ph34r.gif
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Been a while since I went for a shopping spree like this....DON'T FORGET THE REVIEWS YA....hehehe....
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post Jun 20 2013, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 20 2013, 04:15 PM)
oh ya what you guys use for paint chip (my hood's so full of them lol) correction/hiding/cover ups?
Haven't tried anything that's successful....so far 3' is the closest I can get away without noticing them, using paint specifically mixed to match by car paint supplier.....
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post Jun 21 2013, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(YoNgZ @ Jun 20 2013, 05:36 PM)
Greetings to all the shifus here  notworthy.gif ...

Newbie here trying to learn detailing...

Been reading thru this thread V2 since yesterday... long way more to go as i'm still @ pages 24 haha.

Been talking to bro Quazacolt in PM, been grateful to him as he provides me with alot of basic informations and tips since i'm a newbie.

Some questions to ask here....if one could share his opinions or advices i would be really grateful  rclxms.gif

1. I'm getting a new car or shifus here calling it a truck as it's a Toyota Hilux Vigo. Been reading to gain some basic knowledge to learn how to protect my new car. As i will be travelling to East Malaysia soon... will need to prepare all the tools and detailing products needed .

Wanted to ask for new car, i was planning to :-

WASH/DRY

Clay [Do i need to clay since it's a new car?]

Polish [Dont think i need to polish a new car unless there's scratches?]

Apply Permanon Sealant

then is it recommended if i topper my Permanon with Wax? [I was told not to from the official recommendation and instead use Optimum Instant Detailer]

and lastly doing regurlay wash at least 2 times a week to maintain the car.

Am i skipping any steps or doing any unncessary steps? hopefully shifus here can light me up. Cheers!  thumbup.gif
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Clay & Polish - In my book, clay is a must before doing any polishing even if you don't see any embeded dirt. And I do suggest you still do a light polish even if you don't see any 'scratches'. You wouldn't know how long the car had been stored in an open field and how much contaminants it had 'sucked up'. A light claying and polish would remove any embeded dirt and 'deep clean' the surface and would make the sealant/wax of your choice perform better.

Since you mentioned Optimum, why don't you go for Optimum Car Wax instead of the OID. Not much use of the OID except for after a wash to spruce up a little bit of shine, and also, it won't lay down much of a protection on the paint. A spray sealant/wax like Optimum Car Wax, Megs Ultimate Quick Wax, Duragloss Aquawax, etc. is something good to have in hand for a quicky topping-up when you notice the protection is deteriorating.

Oh...may I also suggest you get something for those plastic deck, trims, steps, etc...that lorry of yours have lots of plastic/vinyl. A water-based/spray on dressing that can be diluted would be very suitable, just spray on and wipe evenly...something like Duragloss 321 Non Silicone Dressing or the like.
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post Jun 23 2013, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 23 2013, 04:37 AM)
KrisMas those 3M blue masking tape, i found them, and bought them... rm100+ moneyflies.gif  gone lol  (bought 1" and 1.5" respectively)

supposedly low adhesive and can be stuck on 60days without leaving residue/harming surface, so should be damn gentle on automotive to go crazy on it (like 2-3 layers just for extra guarantee? lol)  without much care tongue.gif
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Wow....but, good investment, cuz so far haven't had any issues with adhesive residue or taking the paint along when removing with those 3M blue or green tapes. Expensive, but I think it's 60m so it's gonnago a long way....

QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Jun 23 2013, 12:06 PM)
I always am amazed by how those detailers can clean the engine so well.

So I got to this:

Is this method recommended? I finally figure out the shinny thingy part out when he starts spraying trim shine on the engine.
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I don't see anything wrong with the video. He's covered all the basics. You might want to have some brushes or rags for any stubborn/cacked in areas and brush/wipe them before the hose-down. Now, this is VERY IMPORTANT! REMEMBER ALL THE PLACES YOU'VE COVERED WITH THE ALUMINIUM FOIL AND MAKE SURE YOU REMOVED THEM ALL BEFORE STARTING THE CAR.

Oh...and check out Megs Hyperdressing. Spray on when still wet, close the lit, start the engine, open the bonnet after 5 minutes and watch how shiny the engine become after it dries.....hahaha
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post Jun 23 2013, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Jun 23 2013, 08:17 PM)
What other alternative for Meg Hyperdressing? It looks like Hyperdressing is professional range item.
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Sorry. Don't know of any equivalent/alternative. Get a gallon and share la. I think Kecik Jb in 'the group' sells them quite cheap. If not can get from 'you-know-who' la.

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 23 2013, 08:19 PM)
btw what's the difference between:
- hyper dressing
- all season dressing
- silicone free dressing

looks like hyper dressing is good for both interior/exterior, and can go from high gloss to satin shine dependent on minimal 1:4 ratio to 1:10?

oh ya what is the recommended dilution ratio for super de-greaser?
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- hyper dressing - water based
- all season dressing - silicone based and it's more like Megs GC Endurance
- silicon free dressing - don't know much about this one.

Oh...btw Hyperdressing's dilution is between 1:1~4

For SD, like I said, I normally use 1:10 on everything. If one application not enough then I'd rather go for another round instead of using a stronger dilution. But for engine, especially those that aren't that well maintained, I'd start with 1: 5~8. JFYI, SD at 1:4 is really wicked. On tires, you'd immediately see brown residue being dissolved and dripping down, on wheels you'd see the dirt and brake dust (those loose ones) being 'dislodged' and flowing down, on undercarriage all you'd need is just to spray it and you'd see the whole underside turning brown and dripping everywhere on the floor, PW wash and all is done....minimal scrubbing needed. But, at the price that we are paying for it, 1:10 had performed well enough for me personally...no need to overdo and 'waste'....
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post Jun 24 2013, 04:29 PM

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OPC is safe for rubber, provided that you rinse off thoroughly.
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post Jun 25 2013, 08:31 AM

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May I suggest a wet/dry vacuum instead. The 'wet extractor' might come in handy in the future...
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post Jun 25 2013, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 25 2013, 09:01 AM)
hmm what's a good portable one (similar to the dyson) then?
http://www.karcher.com/int/Products/Home__...um_cleaners.htm
Karcher doesn't have portable ones though

btw for the cleaning agent hose, do you use shampoo in neat or diluted?
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Don't know of any 'portable' wet/dry vacuum. Maybe compact ones but not-so-portable: http://www.perfectlifes.com/category/16-steam-vacuum
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post Jun 25 2013, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 25 2013, 10:57 AM)
hmm never heard of this brand, expensive a? lol
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...very....their compact 'entry level' household steamer/extractor would set your bank account back by RM1.8k. They came over to my house and did a demo....was impressed (with the machine but not the salesman who was not able to answer many of my questions with a straight face) but, alas, too expensive for me.....
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 25 2013, 11:44 AM)
or you don't generally put car shampoo in the PW to foam up the car?
Oh...the 'foamer' that comes with the PW or the 'chemical intake tube' is practically USELESS (foam-less).
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post Jun 26 2013, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(arj @ Jun 25 2013, 11:02 PM)
For that you need a proper foam lance brows.gif
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QUOTE(shootingstars83 @ Jun 25 2013, 11:43 PM)
is this what they call snow wash?
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 26 2013, 12:09 AM)
omg pls dun poison XD
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This was only using 2oz of Optimum Car Wash with a proper foam lance...MUAHAHAHAHA.......
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post Jun 26 2013, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 26 2013, 10:51 AM)
omg what foam lance you using? where you got it from/how much?
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Don't have any other picture of it except for the one below. I thought it would work with my normal garden hose (which has quite a high pressure) but it doesn't. Now it's currently fitted to my pressure washer gun. Got it from CYC and it cost me....errr....not sure....I think around RM4xx or so.....

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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Jun 26 2013, 11:21 AM)
Aftermath of yesterday's haze rain in Subang sad.gif this was even after I poured gallons of clean water to wash the haze rain away!
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Unfortunate....but this commonly happened every year after haze+rain....

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 26 2013, 03:09 PM)
hmm my friend/colleague got sierra glow on his car that is etched full of water marks and he wants to remove it (including SG)

so, what is an effective way of removing it would you suggest?
personally i think IPA/APC/SD should do the trick, however if there are better solution, that would be great too smile.gif
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IPA/APC/SD wouldn't work much on water spots. Best (safest) is to clay then polish.
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post Jun 26 2013, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(shootingstars83 @ Jun 26 2013, 03:23 PM)
let's camp at his house and wash our cars together laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 26 2013, 03:38 PM)
and "borrow" his rupes and supernatural waxes aye? laugh.gif
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Oii!! No 'cuci2 bersih' camping in front of my house okay!! And if you want anything supernatural you'd need to come over at midnight when the moon is full la.....LOL

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 26 2013, 03:38 PM)
CYC?
i saw autogeek selling theirs for 120 usd or so, with adapter for Karcher PWs available
hmm guess that's standard price
You forgot about the shipping....that thing is full brass (except for the plastic parts) and is heavy man...

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 26 2013, 03:38 PM)
eh no sifu, he doesn't want to remove the water spots, he wants to nuke SG clean lol (along with it the water spots etched deep onto SG)
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Same thing...safest is to clay then polish...won't take much to remove the SG... tongue.gif
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post Jun 26 2013, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 26 2013, 04:06 PM)
simply polishing can remove SG? lol (heyyyy maybe THAT is why you're discouraged to polish/wax after done SG LOL!)
I didn't say anything..... whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif

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