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TSKrisMas
post Nov 20 2013, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(bakry @ Nov 19 2013, 08:13 PM)
Guys, any reviews on those Japanese car waxes? A friend told me they are really good. He showed me a can. Tin bulat. But I didn't try it on my car since I just only sent to shop for polish n wax. Meguairs.

So are those Japanese ones good? Mana nak cari?
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I haven't tried too many of them, but there's two products that I think are worth considering. One is the Soft99 Rain Hop - great beading, nice durability of around 2 ~ 3 weeks. The other is Naviwax Ioncoat - was still beading nicely after 3 weeks when I decided to wash it off and top up with something else. A little bit less user-friendly as compare to some other paste waxes - tends to streak a lot of the surface is not prep/clean properly. But if done right, can rival some of the more exotic waxes.

QUOTE(jyane @ Nov 19 2013, 09:10 PM)
Hi guys,

      I waxed my car recently and i found out, something like dirt or water look on my white car paint.. but when i use my hand or towel to rub it, it wont come off.. it just like the dirt or water is inside my paint.. the water is like black black light mud colour.. What did i gone wrong or did my wax gone wrong? my car doesnt look glossy.. like got some mud on the paint.. how to i reserve the paint to white glossy looking? please help.. thanks a lot guys...
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Nov 19 2013, 09:49 PM)
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Something like this?
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QUOTE(jyane @ Nov 19 2013, 10:02 PM)
But i did wash my car weekly, and wax it round 2-3mth or even i have time.. beside polish, any other way to solve it?
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QUOTE(jyane @ Nov 20 2013, 07:40 AM)
beside clay.. is there any other way? cos i never use clay before..
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Those are water spots/marks/etchings. If you can't remove them by 'rubbing' it, you'd most probably need something stronger to remove them. If they're just 'light' spotting you might be able to remove them with some chemical (water spot remover, vinegar, etc.) or, if severe enough, the only way to 'remove' them is by compounding. You can try claying but, personally, I don't like claying off water spots as you'd most probably would need some polishing afterwards since claying would induce some marring. I'd rather chemically remove them as oppose to claying if they're just light spottings.

The picutre that TDUEnthusiast shows is hard water etchings - the clear coat is already etched/damaged. Those would definitely need some heavy compounding work.

QUOTE(linkinawe @ Nov 19 2013, 09:16 PM)
thanks for the reply. Would you mind telling me what micro-restore is available in our Malaysia market ? Brand ?

and one more thing. How to clean brake dust effectively ?  I've tried OPC 1:7, no hopes. Then 1:3 , agitate 5 minutes, I can see some brake dust dissolve, but they are still there  rclxub.gif ! The brown stains ! I've tried to seek answer in autogeek, like TrixX, Tarminator, P21S and blah blah. Unfortunately our Msia car detailing market is very small, I only can find Meg WB, Sonax full effect. Which product that you come across that do best at cleaning brake dust ?
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I only know of one place selling this: Micro Restore Microfiber Detergent Concentrate. Damn expensive though....RM100 for 32oz.

For the initial cleaning, you might want to use Megs WB or IronX. Megs WB have worked well for me every time but, on those very stubborn ones, some agitation (with a soft brush) is still needed. And for the initial cleaning, it's best if you can take the wheels off...easier to 'scrub' and get into those hard-to-reach areas (like behind the spokes). Sonax Full Effect is a tad bit weaker than IronX but it also worked in removing those embedded brake dust....though a little slower and needed a few rounds but it does work. But my money is still on Megs WB. Find somebody who's willing to sell you some 500ml of it if you think 1gal is too much. At 1:4 you already have 2.5L of it and that's more than enough already. Do a couple of rounds of cleaning and if you can still see them, try claying them off and then clean again afterwards.

For maintenance, I just use an APC (light dusting) or degreaser (heavy dusting). I clean them every week (including the wheel barrel) and, normally, it'll take about a year or so before I need to do another off-wheel cleaning. Since you've already have it, OPC at 1:5 would do fine for maintenance. Just remember to rinse thoroughly though cuz OPC is a little bit stubborn to fully rinse off and any residue *could* cause some whitish stain on the wheel. Normally, I'd go for another round using normal shampoo if I were to use OPC.

QUOTE(jyane @ Nov 19 2013, 09:59 PM)
Does that mean DG105 can act as wax? what the diff btw wax and sealant? from wad i read for 105, it is a total performance polish.. does tat mean DG105 is a polish thing? thanks for the clarify..
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DG105 is a sealant. Don't ask me why they call it a polish but it's definitely a sealant.... sweat.gif
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post Nov 20 2013, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(bakry @ Nov 20 2013, 10:47 AM)
How is the gloss on the rain hop and naviwax? i like em shiny! was looking online and saw some other one. king of gloss.

where can i find these japanese waxes?

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Autobacs Klang got quite a few of them. But last time I went around a couple of months ago I noticed their stocks is 'shrinking'....don't know why.... hmm.gif
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post Nov 20 2013, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(LazyJin @ Nov 20 2013, 11:46 AM)
Give Hypercoat a call? (60) 3- 8024 4594
Btw, need some advice from the veterans. I'm looking for a waterless wash product and really wanted the Meguiars D115 Rinse Free Express Wash and Wax but Hypercoat will not be bringing this in. Anybody know good sources?

I've been using Meguiars Rinse Free Express Wash D114 at 1:128 ratio as a waterless wash spray, it's good but i use it a lot and after 2-3 uses the surface is no longer hydrophobic. I've got a gallon of D156 Xpress spray wax, so i'm really tempted to mix 15% into my current waterless wash bottle in the hope it will leave that hydrophobic layer of wax. Anybody tried mixing products like these before?

If all else fails, i'll just spray wax after a waterless wash. Or try the Optimum or Duragloss products.

P/S : The D114 was a sample, so if that runs out i'll need to source that as well. Hypercoat not selling.
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You can try asking Hypercoat SG.

hrrmm...I haven't tried mixing D156 into D114 before. But, even if it does work, wouldn't it just be a waste as you'd be diluting the D156? Wouldn't using them separately would be more effective? Just a thought. Anyway, I'll give it a try also when I got the time.

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post Nov 22 2013, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(windskill @ Nov 22 2013, 12:37 AM)
Is the yellow-color-holder a holder that can buy from the market? What's it called actually?

Also, most of the time I only found pads for DA. Are those pads applicable for hand use?
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I'm not sure what that 'holder' is called but local Sonax does sell something with similar function called the Sonax P-Ball, RRP at RM38.

DA pads are ok for hand use. Actually, I like them better as I know their level of aggressiveness....

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post Nov 22 2013, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(windskill @ Nov 22 2013, 04:42 PM)
Okay, I see. So, it's not necessary to purchase those specialized hand applicator pads(eg: CCS euro foam,etc.) but you can just use DA pads to polish/wax by hand.

Is that correct?
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Yup. So far they worked just fine for me....and much better (and faster) than the hand applicator for deeper defects removal (I'm talking about the LC CCS orange & white spot pads). But I don't like using the Megs spot pads by hand though...they're a bit too thick.

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post Nov 25 2013, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Nov 24 2013, 09:37 PM)
I had the meg scratch removal 2.0. Can I ask what is the most effective way to use it to remove scratch ?
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Megs ScratchX is it? You can use it with the Megs yellow applicator pad. One pea-size drop for around 5" ~ 6" long scratch. Put some passion (pressure) on it for removing the scratch. Then lighten up the pressure for 'refining'. Might need quite a few rounds to remove scratches as it's not as aggressive as Megs Ultimate Compound.

You can also use it with a cotton or microfiber cloth for the initial few passes for removing the scratch and use the yellow applicator later for 'refining'. Cotton and microfiber cloth are more aggressive than the yellow foam and would work faster on deeper scratches.

Just take note that some deeper scratches aren't that easy to remove altogether...even when using a machine/rotary. So don't be disappointed if it doesn't work for you.
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post Nov 26 2013, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(christ14 @ Nov 25 2013, 10:52 PM)
opti seal ok? not newbie not pro either.. permanon platinum almost finish and garage sale got stock
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How much is the garage sale? Interested in getting another one if the price is right.....
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post Nov 26 2013, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(windskill @ Nov 26 2013, 08:35 PM)
Is it possible to use normal torchlight to see the swirl marks, besides using sunlight?
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Yes. Just a matter of how bright your torch is and how dark is the background or how much is the surrounding light. Basically, a torch rated around 150 lumen or above can show swirls on cars under the shade/porch.
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post Nov 27 2013, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(waseken2 @ Nov 26 2013, 10:58 PM)
hi all the sifu, any ideas how to remove bake tree sap? already try IPA, polish (by hand), clay, also can,t remove....
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Find yourself some tar remover, soak a tissue or cotton ball with it and put over the sap. Don't let the tissue dry and keep it damp with the tar remover by topping up. Let it dwell for 10~15 mins. That *should* soften the sap and then gently scrap it off with your fingernails or a soft plastic (like your laminated driving license). If not soft enough repeat the soaking. If still doesn't work then you'd need to get some wet sanding paper and CAREFULLY sand THE SAP off.
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post Nov 29 2013, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Sugizo @ Nov 29 2013, 11:17 AM)
Going to purchase a Rupes Bigfoot. Any sifu can recommend should I get the 21" or 15"? If get 21" can change the backing plate to 15"?

Anymore gatherings that sifus sekalian can show a newbie detailer on the tips and tricks on paint correction?
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Personally, I like the LHR15 over the LHR21. I've tried both before deciding & the 21mm throw was too much for my liking/preference. Furthermore, I like using the smaller pads.

Yes you can get the extra LHR15 backing plate to use with smaller pads but, just FYI, the throw would still be 21mm.

There's one DIT (Do It Together) in the pipeline....trying to sort out the details. Stay tuned.
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post Nov 29 2013, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Nov 29 2013, 04:13 PM)
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my car after my short polishing stint with borrowed things from krismas is showing decay

at long last, the wax has given up its soul and water mark is appearing
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You still have your B&D with you? (or was it the Bosch.....)
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post Nov 29 2013, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Nov 29 2013, 04:16 PM)
its KP600 in bright orange. i forgot what is it.

i doubt its "amazing" torque can remove anything more than a housefly
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That would be the B&D.

LOL....Used to be 'just for waxing only' but you'd be surprised what some of the current polishes can do on that machine. Even my Bosch is now able to remove sanding marks, which was quite impossible to do during 'those times'....hehehe....

Btw, wanted to ask you for long time already but keep delaying and forgetting. How come got *extra* pads in the bag you gave back ah?

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post Nov 29 2013, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Nov 29 2013, 04:31 PM)
oh really ka? that "polisher" kononnya don't have backing plate pun lar
i cant attach nuts to it
Oh? I tot you modded it like our old lost friend....errr...what's his name now..... unsure.gif
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post Nov 29 2013, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Nov 29 2013, 04:43 PM)
i'm out of m21 2.0 too... any cheap good wax to recommend? i have Soft99 metallic can and also Polymer Sealant (those in jusco)
You should know better that 'cheap' doesn't always agree with 'good'..... tongue.gif

Joking aside....you should give DG105 a try....that or Menzerna Power Lock.
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post Nov 30 2013, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(Sugizo @ Nov 29 2013, 11:21 PM)
How far away roughly is the Do it Together? biggrin.gif
I'm thinking on a Saturday or Sunday, 2 weeks from now.....
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post Dec 2 2013, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(Sugizo @ Dec 2 2013, 08:24 AM)
There is this layer of craters or mini holes that I cannot even it out. Any sifu can advice on this what method to apply and what product to use? (Please refer to picture)
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Repaint eh? Those would need sanding and leveling. Not sure whether it's safe unless you're willing to risk clear coat 'puncture' or strike through.
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post Dec 2 2013, 10:24 AM

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Nope. That's the 'legendary' bad paint job....tongue.gif
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post Dec 2 2013, 05:40 PM

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Car Care & Detailing [V3] is up.

Quazacolt...do your stuff.... tongue.gif

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