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TSKrisMas
post Apr 16 2013, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(ic3rock @ Apr 16 2013, 11:22 AM)
Is sonax good? Better than soft99?
Errr....it is, in a sense, a little bit better than soft99....at least you can read the labels and instructions....hehehe....
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post Apr 16 2013, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Apr 16 2013, 01:22 PM)
But I need a good TAR remover, any suggestion?
Osren....or lighter fluid....
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post Apr 16 2013, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Apr 16 2013, 03:03 PM)
I need a proper TAR remover, because after I clayed, I can still feel stuff sticking onto the car.
Used OPC also not much helping, instead got water stain more on the surface.

That's why I want something that can remove all oil, contaminant and also TAR. I have DG 501, should I give DG 431 a try?
OPC to remove tar....?? Good luck with that.

Even with clay, if the tar had already embeded itself INTO the paintwork, the clay can only shear off the exposed portion of it. You'd need something to melt the tar and, for that, it need to be a solvent. Same thing goes for brake dust. For oil, you'd need something to emulsify it and best would be to use a degreaser. For contaminant, soils, etc. you would need an alkaline cleaner for the job (common all purpose cleaner). If you're looking for something that would do all three - CarPro TriX. But you have to remember the saying: "Jack of all trades but master in none".

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post Apr 16 2013, 08:40 PM

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Aiyo...very delicate situation there. Don't think there's any way around it. Unless you want to put up some sort of party wall using thick plywood or some sort to reduce the noise going there......
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post Apr 16 2013, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(GRexer @ Apr 16 2013, 06:49 PM)
Anyway, Giant in Bandar Puteri has it? I guess I'll have to visit it then, been ages since I last went in, didn't really liked shopping there, I'm more of a, Tesco shopper, it's right across the road for me, could even walk there if I wanted. laugh.gif
You free on Saturday afternoon? Want to pop down to Sonax's? (that is if they're open la....need to ask first)
Also can take the opportunity to go through my pads and decide for me which to let go.... tongue.gif
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post Apr 17 2013, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Apr 16 2013, 10:11 PM)
Where is Sonax? Are they open like Osren, plenty of stuff to choose from?
SS18 Subang Jaya. Plenty of stuffs to choose...even some 'non-retail' stuffs.... tongue.gif

QUOTE(GRexer @ Apr 16 2013, 10:35 PM)
Sounds like a plan. Roughly what time? Anytime before 4pm is good for me. I'm tempted to get the new craze for myself now that there are some places I know I could use it on with it's "no pressure needed" methods. Already sent Shyan a text but no response yet.
I think around 1 ~ 2pm. But have to confirm first whether they open or not on Saturday.
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post Apr 17 2013, 01:25 PM

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Bad news guys, Sonax only open until 1pm on Saturdays.

QUOTE(mav3rick @ Apr 17 2013, 09:34 AM)
anything to recommend from sonax? tongue.gif  damn.. is this called self poisoning? biggrin.gif
QUOTE(GRexer @ Apr 17 2013, 10:20 AM)
Shouldn't be a problem. Let me know. It'll be good for a visit, maybe grab some PF.
Well, Sonax, is kinda like Meguiar's in USA, they are pretty big, depends on what you want. The wheel cleaner IS highly recommended.
QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Apr 17 2013, 10:39 AM)
How much is the Sonax Wheel Cleaner?

Can help me get one? smile.gif
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 17 2013, 10:46 AM)
whats the difference between sonax's wheel cleaner compared to meguiar's or even turtle wax?

whats the main attraction of sonax's wheel cleaner?

how much it cost again?
QUOTE(acefreakz @ Apr 17 2013, 10:32 AM)
+1, i going to get one too <3 hahaha

btw bro KrisMas, where's this shop at ur mentioned location SS18 Subang Jaya?
Why don't you guys do a group buy, get the 5L one and share it out. What you guys should be looking for is the Sonax Xtreme Wheel Cleaner Full Effect and I think they retail here for around RM80 for the 500ml spray bottle. I can try to get info on the availability and price for the 5L container....later after lunch la ya..... tongue.gif

The SS18 is the main dealer/distributor. Much like Hypercoat in USJ1.

The plus side of this wheel cleaner (from my limited experience...errr...which is after using about half of the 5L container tongue.gif ) is that it's able to 'melt' those difficult to remove brake dust whilst not damaging the paintwork/coating, unlike some other caustic wheel cleaners (eg. Megs Wheel Brightener - more effective and works quicker) which requires more care and getting use to.
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post Apr 17 2013, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 17 2013, 10:46 AM)
whats the difference between sonax's wheel cleaner compared to meguiar's or even turtle wax?

whats the main attraction of sonax's wheel cleaner?

how much it cost again?
q1: I find the Sonax is more effective in removing stubborn brake dust as compared to TW or OTC Megs.
q2: very nice watching the brake dust turns purple and bleed down the wheels
q3: VERY EXPENSIVE!!!
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post Apr 17 2013, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 17 2013, 03:24 PM)

Remind me to bring some on our coming meet.... rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 17 2013, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Apr 17 2013, 03:29 PM)
Anyone know where to get the Sonax Wheel Cleaner in Penang ?
Sonax Malaysia has an fb up under that name. Might be a better idea if you ask them there. I see they have some of their products in Caltex Penang....but didn't mention which Caltex and what products....hehehe....
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post Apr 17 2013, 09:14 PM

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Aiyo...a simple meetup suddenly turning to be something like a full fledge detailing clinic already instead of *just* a machine hands-on session. Need to invite a proper sifu for this kinda of thing already la...... hmm.gif hmm.gif

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post Apr 17 2013, 09:37 PM

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I'm the kind of guy who can't seem to do/get anything right when people are watching...need reinforcements....somebody who can keep 'cool' on stage....hahaha....
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post Apr 18 2013, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(ChiaKhai @ Apr 17 2013, 10:29 PM)
Just did my 12 yr old wira.. there comes the scratched again.. now in swirls.. dunno where went terribly wrong... sad.gif
What machine//pad//polish did you use? Was the surface of the paint smooth (clayed) before you started?

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post Apr 18 2013, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Apr 18 2013, 09:30 AM)
I park under awning of My House. During raining , the water dripping on it and become this .

My Car is Honda Accord SM4 . Age : 20 years
For a 20 years old paint, it could already be the clear coat failing. But then, from the way you describe it, it *could* also be some sort of deposits...rain picking up paint/plaster/dirt, etc then deposit them (dripping from the awning) onto the surface of the paint then dried up. Might be able to save it if the clear coat underneath is still ok. Does it feel sandy-like and protruding/sticking on the surface? Do you see anything resemblance to peeling plastic wrapper (clear coat peeling off)?

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post Apr 18 2013, 11:30 AM

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DIY or plan to send somewhere?
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post Apr 18 2013, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 18 2013, 11:32 AM)
If wax stains appear all over the car in small lines after each drive for one or two times, does that mean that the wax's not good? hmm.gif. Or maybe it's because of the wax that got stuck in the gaps between body panels being blown out by the wind? hmm.gif
If by 'wax stains' you mean those that looks like dirt steaks/lines, that mean the wax is doing it's job by not letting dirt sticking to the paint...carried away by water as oppose to sticking at one place. If it's the actual wax itself, it could be.

There's also one other possibility. The shampoo that you're using could be one of those 'wash & wax' type that contains some sort of wax or other protective/shine enhancing polymer in it. If left to dry/evaporate on it's own without wiping, it would leave some kind of whitish residue that looks like 'wax stains'. Should be easily wash off or remove by a simple wipe with a quick detailer though.
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post Apr 18 2013, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(ChiaKhai @ Apr 18 2013, 11:42 AM)
Anyway, the swirls removing are no success using megs swirlx. The swirls too deep?
Pss.. geram,,
Did you just do one pass or several passes? Megs SwirlX is not that aggressive. It could mean that the swirls is too deep and need more passes. Or you can try Ultimate Compound and see whether can do better/quicker.

QUOTE(ChiaKhai @ Apr 18 2013, 11:54 AM)
Now my mindset-> Mazda = extremely vulnerable to bird droppings LOL
You cannot beat nature and bird droppings is automotive coatings most feared enemy. No paint supplier, wax/sealant manufacturers, coating specialists, etc. would claim that their product will prevent bird droppings from etching the paint/wax/sealant/coatings/etc. If somebody do, it'll most probably come out from the mouth of a marketing guy/gal who don't know sh** about what they're selling and just wanted to cash in on the uneducated (ignorant?) public.

Regardless what car, what paint, what wax/sealant, what coating, etc., if you really care for the paint you'd need to clean off the droppings AS SOON AS YOU POSSIBLY AND PRACTICALLY CAN. Worst come to worst, I would use a soaking wet tissue paper to 'soften' the droppings and wipe it off as soon as I notice it. The longer it is left on the paint, the more the harm it would cause on ANY paint/wax/sealant/coating/etc.

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post Apr 18 2013, 01:04 PM

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Yeah....best if you do. In the mean time you start with some nice read OVER HERE.
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post Apr 18 2013, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(ainnolj @ Apr 18 2013, 03:43 PM)
like to ask for my new car, after washing with Meg GCS, and clay, i only use UQW, do i need any step further after wax?
UQW is not really a 'full fledged' wax/sealant. I do suggest you use the UQW for maintenance/topping up. The 'base' need to be a proper one like ULW/UPW or DG101/DG105.

QUOTE(ChiaKhai @ Apr 18 2013, 05:53 PM)
Hi bro KrisMas

I found that there's a "hole" in my polishing pad.  cry.gif

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would that have cause the scratches?
On a DA....I don't think so. Unless there's dirt inside/edge. I have one of the older Megs W8006 pad with the pad surface looking worse than that. Haven't notice any adverse effect when polishing, even with a rotary (actually, I prefer it more than the 'fresher' pads).

QUOTE(gapsterz @ Apr 18 2013, 08:24 PM)
can you guys recommend me a good coating with budget around 100 - 200
Would you mind elaborating about the 'coating' you mentioned. What are you looking for/preference. Did you mean to DIY or a place that do 'coating'?
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post Apr 19 2013, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(gapsterz @ Apr 18 2013, 09:45 PM)
hi sifu krismas..

actually im looking for a place to do the coating..i want a coat that can repel water and dirt from destroying my car paint..do u have a place to suggest?
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 19 2013, 02:26 AM)
most coating service costs at least 1-2k

you sure you didn't miss a zero right there?
Agree with what Quazacolt said. Won't be able to get much of anything with that kinda budget. Retail price for a 30ml bottle of CQuartz (which is one of the coatings available for purchase and DIY) is already at around RM160. Best is to go for what MyWifeCar said and DIY. Or, wait until you have a budget or around RM300 ~ RM500 or so and go for a good quality detail and just concentrate on maintainance after that.

QUOTE(fatman_xing @ Apr 19 2013, 08:13 AM)
Hey all. Just wanna seek your professional advice on how to remove the scratches below. I tried using Soft99's Luster and didn't seem to work. Am I suppose to use polisher instead ? Am I suppose to touch up the paint as well (like using Ezytouch up). Thanks in advance !

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hehehe....won't get any 'professional' advice here....we're mostly amateurs... tongue.gif

Anyway, can't really judge from the picture there. Can you possibly try to remove those paint/rubber (looks more like rubber) transfer with some kind of cleaner or solvent (petrol or diesel should work if it's rubber) and check for the damage again. After cleaning, see if you can catch the scratch/damage with your fingernail. If you can, then it's better to seek professional help (bodyshop) unless you have the tools and equipment (sand paper, rotary polisher, matching paint, etc.) to do it yourself.

As for the rear quarter, did the Soft99 Luster has ZERO effect or only be able to 'remove' the scratch a little bit only? If it does, maybe more passes is needed.

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