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ghoss
post Feb 22 2013, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(Stimx @ Feb 22 2013, 09:39 AM)
blink.gif Lu cakap apa? Beat the system?  doh.gif  shakehead.gif
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there is no such thing as beat the system .

It's all in the probability ~ It seems like a winning system cos the time for it to lose not yet come
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post Feb 22 2013, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Feb 22 2013, 10:06 AM)
there is no such thing as beat the system .

It's all in the probability ~ It seems like a winning system cos the time for it to lose not yet come
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Ah Ghoss thumbup.gif If there is a system that can beat, then there will be no casino... laugh.gif

You not want make yr way to Genting this weekend, CNY 15 last day to Huat!!!! big big oooooo laugh.gif

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post Feb 22 2013, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(hightechgadgets8 @ Feb 22 2013, 02:48 AM)
tadi cakap cannot sleep. haih. betul2 can't sleep. shui duoh hao
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Boss, check your pm.
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post Feb 22 2013, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Stimx @ Feb 22 2013, 10:20 AM)
Ah Ghoss  thumbup.gif If there is a system that can beat, then there will be no casino... laugh.gif

You not want make yr way to Genting this weekend, CNY 15 last day to Huat!!!! big big oooooo laugh.gif
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yea lor ~ long time casino tutup liao brows.gif

I huat in mah shen can liao bruce.gif

Tips
If you want to use martingale (double up after lose) use grand martingale better which is just x2 of what you lost + 1 unit.

Example,
Bet 1 = Lost = Bet 3 , lose again = Bet 7
Bet 3 = Lost = Bet 9 lose again = Bet 21
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post Feb 22 2013, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(hightechgadgets8 @ Feb 22 2013, 02:48 AM)
tadi cakap cannot sleep. haih. betul2 can't sleep. shui duoh hao
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Dai sei. Now also not yet wake up?
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post Feb 22 2013, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Feb 22 2013, 10:34 AM)
yea lor ~ long time casino tutup liao  brows.gif

I huat in mah shen can liao bruce.gif

Tips
If you want to use martingale (double up after lose) use grand martingale better which is just x2 of what you lost + 1 unit.

Example,
Bet 1 = Lost  = Bet 3 , lose again = Bet 7
Bet 3 = Lost = Bet 9 lose again = Bet 21
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1,3,7,15,31

5th bet you already invested 53 units. If 1 unit is rm 100 then it's rm 5,300. If you win in that bet then you win 5 units.

Sad to say this system isn't perfect and if it really works then casino close long time already. See wizardofodds.com for simulation of martingale over high number of hands. The other end of the curve is scary
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post Feb 22 2013, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(macy yen @ Feb 22 2013, 01:23 AM)
No choice, I am sad thinking of this...actually still got contact but have not meet.my parents warn me dont do thing behind their back else they will disown me.
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So easy disown shakehead.gif ...
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post Feb 22 2013, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Feb 22 2013, 10:34 AM)
yea lor ~ long time casino tutup liao  brows.gif

I huat in mah shen can liao bruce.gif

Tips
If you want to use martingale (double up after lose) use grand martingale better which is just x2 of what you lost + 1 unit.

Example,
Bet 1 = Lost  = Bet 3 , lose again = Bet 7
Bet 3 = Lost = Bet 9 lose again = Bet 21
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The problem with this method is the min/max cap but generally u still have a chance of earning as long as u're disciplined. And yes if u want to make money open a casino 99% of gamblers lose overall.

There are risk mitigation methods like counting cards, calculating odds, etc.
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post Feb 22 2013, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(whyseej00 @ Feb 22 2013, 10:56 AM)
1,3,7,15,31

5th bet you already invested 53 units. If 1 unit is rm 100 then it's rm 5,300. If you win in that bet then you win 5 units.

Sad to say this system isn't perfect and if it really works then casino close long time already. See wizardofodds.com for simulation of martingale over high number of hands. The other end of the curve is scary
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It has to be for those games that has a 50/50 betting odds like big/small, red/black type, etc.
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post Feb 22 2013, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(whyseej00 @ Feb 22 2013, 10:56 AM)
1,3,7,15,31

5th bet you already invested 53 units. If 1 unit is rm 100 then it's rm 5,300. If you win in that bet then you win 5 units.

Sad to say this system isn't perfect and if it really works then casino close long time already. See wizardofodds.com for simulation of martingale over high number of hands. The other end of the curve is scary
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Yes , this is the betting method .

You need a good bet indication as well . Since I free then I show you.

Let's use 3 games streak.
Possible outcomes . W= Win / L= Lose
1.WWW = +1
2.WWL =+1
3.WLW =+1
4.WLL =+1
5.LWW =+2
6.LLW =+3
7.LWL =+2
8.LLL =-7

So let's say averagely this happens 1 cycle , you will still profit 4 units each cycle.

Best way to profit is to hit and run before the losing streak comes.
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post Feb 22 2013, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Feb 22 2013, 11:03 AM)
Yes , this is the betting method .

You need a good bet indication as well . Since I free then I show you.

Let's use 3 games streak.
Possible outcomes . W= Win / L= Lose
1.WWW = +1
2.WWL =+1
3.WLW =+1
4.WLL  =+1
5.LWW =+2
6.LLW  =+3
7.LWL  =+2
8.LLL   =-7

So let's say averagely this happens 1 cycle , you will still profit 4 units each cycle.

Best way to profit is to hit and run before the losing streak comes.
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only 3 games streak that's insufficient to mitigate losing streaks? Well higher increases the chances and the stakes.

This post has been edited by Tak3shi: Feb 22 2013, 11:11 AM
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post Feb 22 2013, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(Tak3shi @ Feb 22 2013, 11:09 AM)
only 3 games streak?
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example only bro ~

If you use 4-5 games how to type 1 by 1 sweat.gif

4 games = 16 probability
5 games = 32 probability

Only 1 ultimate losing option .
4 games = 6.25% of losing
5 games = 3.125% of losing
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post Feb 22 2013, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Feb 22 2013, 11:11 AM)
example only bro ~

If you use 4-5 games how to type 1 by 1  sweat.gif

4 games = 16 probability
5 games = 32 probability

Only 1 ultimate losing option .
4 games = 6.25% of losing
5 games = 3.125% of losing
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true. tongue.gif
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post Feb 22 2013, 11:27 AM

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i pening tengok number
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post Feb 22 2013, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(nekodaisuki @ Feb 22 2013, 11:27 AM)
i pening tengok number
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tengok moneyflies.gif got pening tongue.gif?
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post Feb 22 2013, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Feb 22 2013, 11:32 AM)
tengok moneyflies.gif got pening tongue.gif?
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number i pening. tengok cash note i tak pening
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post Feb 22 2013, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(nekodaisuki @ Feb 22 2013, 11:32 AM)
number i pening. tengok cash note i tak pening
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Now you get to see out mathematician at work smile.gif

Ghoss you long time also post this type math liao. I wub.gif to see them again smile.gif
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post Feb 22 2013, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(faceless @ Feb 22 2013, 11:36 AM)
Now you get to see out mathematician at work smile.gif

Ghoss you long time also post this type math liao. I wub.gif to see them again smile.gif
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Bo Nian wans try Ghoss method @ banggala unsure.gif

Bo Nian test and see repot BR... laugh.gif
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post Feb 22 2013, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Feb 22 2013, 11:11 AM)
example only bro ~

If you use 4-5 games how to type 1 by 1  sweat.gif

4 games = 16 probability
5 games = 32 probability

Only 1 ultimate losing option .
4 games = 6.25% of losing
5 games = 3.125% of losing

Fixed:
1.WWW = +3 (1+1+1)
2.WWL =+1 (1+1-1)
3.WLW =+3 (1-1+3)
4.WLL  =-3 (1-1-3)
5.LWW =+3 (-1+3+1)
6.LLW  =+3 (-1-3+7)
7.LWL  =+1 (-1+3-1)
8.LLL   =-11 (-1-3-7)

If one cycle means no win no lose. Please check my maths

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The probabilities are not adjusted to winning percentage of a bet. Ie the winning chance on a red/black bet in single zero wheel is 48.65% and not 50% as claimed. Nothing in casino is 50/50

In 3 games model, probability of winning 3 bets in a row is 11.51% and losing 3 times in a row is 13.53%. Over more games, the gap will become wider and wider. So tread with care bros. It's not as easy as it sounds

This post has been edited by whyseej00: Feb 22 2013, 12:28 PM
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post Feb 22 2013, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(Stimx @ Feb 22 2013, 11:44 AM)
Bo Nian wans try Ghoss method @ banggala  unsure.gif

Bo Nian test and see repot BR... laugh.gif
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stim stim shame on you. Lepak here so long dunno I am not about system but supernatural feel.

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