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post Feb 20 2013, 02:16 PM

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How's everyone doing? Ate a lot and play a lot this CNY?

A few things that I really want to point out to those who are new/young/exploring the world of gambling.

As QGGC chairman, I would like to remind you that the world of gambling looks posh and exciting but in reality it is dark and lonely. Just make sure you explore the other side before you jump in.

In a world where money matters a lot, gambling will easily fuel your greed and eventually consume you from within.

Those who are planning to quit or want to quit or just jiajia want to quit, can always contact me (contact at post #3). There is only a limited number of times where you can be knocked down before you can't get up again.

Cheers!
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post Feb 20 2013, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(Ducki3s @ Feb 20 2013, 02:18 PM)
girls wont be landu as guys
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How about you bro? Of so many ppl here, the most I want to meet is you
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post Feb 20 2013, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(vamp1re @ Feb 20 2013, 06:35 PM)
must be Whysee and his wife smile.gif
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No leh. Macy didn't contact me even though my contact is in #3 doh.gif

Nvm, she already got job cool.gif
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post Feb 21 2013, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(nekodaisuki @ Feb 21 2013, 11:47 AM)
U wan know my commitment?
Tolak epf+socso got 1750 nia.
250 - bike loan
500 - house loan
500 - rental fee
left 500 nia..
makan - ?
utilities - ?
petrol - ?

cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif

go fight limbobo need capital that is extra money ma....so no extra money cannot fight limbobo
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How come have to pay house and rental? Also 2k nowadays hard to survive in KL.
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post Feb 21 2013, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(nekodaisuki @ Feb 21 2013, 12:10 PM)
house loan is my parents staying de place.
rental is my place which i'm staying..
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Finding bf is one thing. On the other hand you should be independent as well and not rely on others.

Some tips on what to look for:
- look beyond what he have now and see what is his potential like
- don't be easily swayed by sweet words. Have to determine whether it's from the heart or merely to get into your pants
- beauty can be a double edged sword. You will attract unwanted attention
- the past should remain in the past. The future is uncertain. Work on the present
- there are good men out there. You just have to look harder
- old one don't go, new one won't come

Cheers

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post Feb 21 2013, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(nekodaisuki @ Feb 21 2013, 12:21 PM)
dunwan ler..2 days ago i break with him, my another ex propose me back..he is a great person..but i told him if he can wait me for 4 years liao, wait another 4 years because i wan to study..kesian him
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Don't give him false hope la. You will never go back to him. Just my 2 cents though because this drama I have seen and experienced before. Won't have happy ending for the guy

You are not looking for a great guy. You are looking for a guy who can give you support and motivation. You are looking for an independent and strong guy and not somebody that is meek and merely wait for things to happen and put everything to chance

Again it's also my 2 cents and experience on girls such as you smile.gif

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post Feb 21 2013, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(faceless @ Feb 21 2013, 12:39 PM)
I cry.gif on your behalf because I feel your pain although I never experience before.
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No need cry.gif la. We are still in good terms. Girls who look back usually won't be happy. Guys who just hope and hope and pray also won't get what they want
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post Feb 21 2013, 07:05 PM

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I see my name mentioned a few times

For those who needs help quitting gambling, please contact me (see post #3)

I'm not saying that I'm a saint that can help but I'm just guiding you if you need it. Although the centre I recommend is a rehab but it's more like a close group of ppl trying to help fellow gamblers

Time and again I will still gamble a bit, sometimes when bad habits creep up I know how to control

Gambled a bit during CNY, BR:
- played 6 colour pai fa (like 13 card pai fa)
- kampung baccarat (I dealer)
Max bet is rm 20. 6 ppl playing.
After 4 hours or so I'm up 1k++

Pay back house owner a bit since he dulan. I'm in for the amusement only anyway
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post Feb 21 2013, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(vamp1re @ Feb 21 2013, 07:07 PM)
u gambled at Rehab ?  tongue.gif
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Haha no la. At friend's place. Some lan du fella. Can see people's greed and anger la in gambling. Bo song. Win already boastful, lose already start cursing and dulan. Last hand he lost triple rm 60 total but pay rm 10 only. Some more I quietly give money to his gf to pass to him

Gambling really isn't very healthy lor. Everyone is tryin to win money that the other party don't want to lose. Loser not happy, winner also paiseh and mm hou yee si
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post Feb 21 2013, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(axn992 @ Feb 21 2013, 07:30 PM)
Crown Australia. poker still learning. poker competitions help to increase skill. unfortunately, i was told genting no texas holdem.
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Which popular poker player you like?
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post Feb 21 2013, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(nekodaisuki @ Feb 21 2013, 07:35 PM)
i have always wish for a guy who is kind, patient, understanding, handsome, rich and loyal.
but all the time i get guy who is hot tempered, over jealous, sensitive, greedy and flirty.

but when i have some guys that fulfill all mentioned criteria, they are either married, divorced, playboy, taken or gay..sometimes, the feeling just isnt there when it's fulfill all 100%
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Sounds like a train wreck waiting to happen. Try going into a relationship without any wants/wishes/requirements. Also other than handsome, the rest can be cultivated/accumulated naturally
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post Feb 21 2013, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(nekodaisuki @ Feb 21 2013, 07:33 PM)
if im not mistaken, genting got o...
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Neko-chan, Genting one is player versus banker. Real one is player vs player. House gets X% as rake per hand
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post Feb 22 2013, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Feb 22 2013, 10:34 AM)
yea lor ~ long time casino tutup liao  brows.gif

I huat in mah shen can liao bruce.gif

Tips
If you want to use martingale (double up after lose) use grand martingale better which is just x2 of what you lost + 1 unit.

Example,
Bet 1 = Lost  = Bet 3 , lose again = Bet 7
Bet 3 = Lost = Bet 9 lose again = Bet 21
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1,3,7,15,31

5th bet you already invested 53 units. If 1 unit is rm 100 then it's rm 5,300. If you win in that bet then you win 5 units.

Sad to say this system isn't perfect and if it really works then casino close long time already. See wizardofodds.com for simulation of martingale over high number of hands. The other end of the curve is scary
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post Feb 22 2013, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Feb 22 2013, 11:11 AM)
example only bro ~

If you use 4-5 games how to type 1 by 1  sweat.gif

4 games = 16 probability
5 games = 32 probability

Only 1 ultimate losing option .
4 games = 6.25% of losing
5 games = 3.125% of losing

Fixed:
1.WWW = +3 (1+1+1)
2.WWL =+1 (1+1-1)
3.WLW =+3 (1-1+3)
4.WLL  =-3 (1-1-3)
5.LWW =+3 (-1+3+1)
6.LLW  =+3 (-1-3+7)
7.LWL  =+1 (-1+3-1)
8.LLL   =-11 (-1-3-7)

If one cycle means no win no lose. Please check my maths

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The probabilities are not adjusted to winning percentage of a bet. Ie the winning chance on a red/black bet in single zero wheel is 48.65% and not 50% as claimed. Nothing in casino is 50/50

In 3 games model, probability of winning 3 bets in a row is 11.51% and losing 3 times in a row is 13.53%. Over more games, the gap will become wider and wider. So tread with care bros. It's not as easy as it sounds

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post Feb 22 2013, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Feb 22 2013, 12:31 PM)
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Sauce
                        Probability 
Banker wins  0.458597
Player wins  0.446247
Tie            0.095156 

Ignoring tie in baccarat  . Spliting the odds for tie to both Banker + Player, 0.095156/2 = 0.047578
Banker wins = 0.458597 + 0.047578 = 0.506175
Player wins =  0.493825

With this I can say it's close to 50%-50% after reducing the 5% commision on banker wins.

Regarding the streaks in baccarat  ---> Wizard of Odds  Seems like my calculation earlier is correct

Note
I don't play the wheel only bangala ~
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Adding the Tie probabilities to banker and player seems wrong because you don't win money of it. Mathematically incorrect la bro

Please double check this:
1.WWW = +3 (1+1+1)
2.WWL =+1 (1+1-1)
3.WLW =+3 (1-1+3)
4.WLL =-3 (1-1-3)
5.LWW =+3 (-1+3+1)
6.LLW =+3 (-1-3+7)
7.LWL =+1 (-1+3-1)
8.LLL =-11 (-1-3-7)

Also if you are going to bet on so called 50/50 bets then single zero wheel black/red yields a higher winning percentage (which is 48.65 as opposed to banker 45.85. Both also NOT 50-50).

If you read careful in wizardofodds:
I get asked a lot about the probability of getting x bets in a row correct in baccarat. Not that the answer is of any value, but to end the questions, I submit the following table

If you have been reading wizardofodds then you will know that he is super anti martingale or system of any form. I will say that NO system has been proven to win 100% in long games. Casino wins in long run.

The reason I'm giving these points is because I don't want fellow GGC members to feel that this system is sure fire to work. TREAD WITH CARE

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post Feb 22 2013, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(nekodaisuki @ Feb 22 2013, 12:58 PM)
one day work 8 - 12 hours. one week work 6 days. and already been 2 years plus up there facing same damn thing...
see people lose more than win..
see people lose until crying, win until pengsan also got...
hit jackpot but not enough 21 years old..
so many drama can see up there..
lose blame dealer, win also blame dealer cause not enough

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I'm interested in those dramas. Maybe a few key or memorable ones. Or those that carry a harsh lesson. Maybe can meet up? Gathering this data for my little project of setting up a website to help addicted gamblers
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post Feb 22 2013, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(Stimx @ Feb 22 2013, 02:45 PM)
Ghoss, thats why i suggest to use the system method of ....PBPBPBPBPBPBPB....... if u hv a statistik, u can match against it... probability of win is there...

The $ martingal u recommended will let u win more $.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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What if open BPBPBPBPBPBPBP? Then die straight straight also
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post Feb 22 2013, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(spiritualgambler @ Feb 22 2013, 03:13 PM)
System help how many people die leh?
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Fixed
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post Feb 22 2013, 06:04 PM

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Eh sounds like a gathering. Maybe I can join on 3/3

Oh I support Katak's call for gathering

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post Feb 22 2013, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(leileichungy @ Feb 22 2013, 08:54 PM)
nothing..no one care also..

bye..
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Lai let's go gathering can meet unkers

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