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post Feb 20 2013, 10:44 AM

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Woot !! rclxm9.gif
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post Feb 20 2013, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(nekodaisuki @ Feb 20 2013, 11:14 AM)
dealer have no knowledge on cards.
GSA are the only one we will refer to when customer ask us...or AM.
Many people ask me before but i will ask them to refer to the counter.

so let say i get a green card, how long should i play at general casino to get enough point for a room?

BTW, there is no malay manager in genting (AFAIK)... the only malay working in casino will be fnb area and security
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depends on the season for the rate , some times 3GP also can get FW rooms.

I go once in a blue moon also can get around 25 GP

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post Feb 20 2013, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Ducki3s @ Feb 20 2013, 11:34 AM)
Why the gp so important for casual gamblers??unsure.gif
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wanna save money ma ~ tongue.gif

The last time syok for me , I claim lunch / dinner with GP
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post Feb 20 2013, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Ducki3s @ Feb 20 2013, 11:40 AM)
Redeem 3gp voucher??
U wan alot of gp thn need sacrifice money..if not hard..
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yea ~ else 9GP also can redeem makan liao
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post Feb 20 2013, 01:16 PM

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KNS ~

You all know how to ask number but don't know how to send your number first ? doh.gif
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post Feb 20 2013, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(faceless @ Feb 20 2013, 01:42 PM)
Come comment on the theme. Don't just cry and kau lui
dei, you sure can help comment on the theme gey. Got use wrong word or not?
I also want learn how to use this. How to use it leh?
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Should be correct ..my mandarin not that good
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post Feb 20 2013, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Ducki3s @ Feb 20 2013, 02:18 PM)
girls wont be landu as guys
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girls got other options to settle debt ph34r.gif brows.gif whistling.gif
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post Feb 20 2013, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(ckh93 @ Feb 20 2013, 02:58 PM)
unker stim, sad cant xfer money to mahseng  cry.gif  cry.gif
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how come ? blink.gif
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post Feb 20 2013, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(ckh93 @ Feb 20 2013, 03:03 PM)
When ayam always win money, I will transfer all the money to msport( which i dont play), incase i nothing do simply bet and lose kao the money.
Then when ayam want play, I will login and transfer money from msport to mclub brows.gif
but now when I login, the circle spin spin and wont load  cry.gif
ayam end school liao lah, now finding job flex.gif
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lol ~ just put the money in main wallet.

Don't forget to claim rebate tonight rclxm9.gif
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post Feb 22 2013, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(Stimx @ Feb 22 2013, 09:39 AM)
blink.gif Lu cakap apa? Beat the system?  doh.gif  shakehead.gif
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there is no such thing as beat the system .

It's all in the probability ~ It seems like a winning system cos the time for it to lose not yet come
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post Feb 22 2013, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Stimx @ Feb 22 2013, 10:20 AM)
Ah Ghoss  thumbup.gif If there is a system that can beat, then there will be no casino... laugh.gif

You not want make yr way to Genting this weekend, CNY 15 last day to Huat!!!! big big oooooo laugh.gif
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yea lor ~ long time casino tutup liao brows.gif

I huat in mah shen can liao bruce.gif

Tips
If you want to use martingale (double up after lose) use grand martingale better which is just x2 of what you lost + 1 unit.

Example,
Bet 1 = Lost = Bet 3 , lose again = Bet 7
Bet 3 = Lost = Bet 9 lose again = Bet 21
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post Feb 22 2013, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(whyseej00 @ Feb 22 2013, 10:56 AM)
1,3,7,15,31

5th bet you already invested 53 units. If 1 unit is rm 100 then it's rm 5,300. If you win in that bet then you win 5 units.

Sad to say this system isn't perfect and if it really works then casino close long time already. See wizardofodds.com for simulation of martingale over high number of hands. The other end of the curve is scary
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Yes , this is the betting method .

You need a good bet indication as well . Since I free then I show you.

Let's use 3 games streak.
Possible outcomes . W= Win / L= Lose
1.WWW = +1
2.WWL =+1
3.WLW =+1
4.WLL =+1
5.LWW =+2
6.LLW =+3
7.LWL =+2
8.LLL =-7

So let's say averagely this happens 1 cycle , you will still profit 4 units each cycle.

Best way to profit is to hit and run before the losing streak comes.
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post Feb 22 2013, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(Tak3shi @ Feb 22 2013, 11:09 AM)
only 3 games streak?
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example only bro ~

If you use 4-5 games how to type 1 by 1 sweat.gif

4 games = 16 probability
5 games = 32 probability

Only 1 ultimate losing option .
4 games = 6.25% of losing
5 games = 3.125% of losing
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post Feb 22 2013, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(nekodaisuki @ Feb 22 2013, 11:27 AM)
i pening tengok number
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tengok moneyflies.gif got pening tongue.gif?
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post Feb 22 2013, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(faceless @ Feb 22 2013, 11:36 AM)
Now you get to see out mathematician at work smile.gif

Ghoss you long time also post this type math liao. I wub.gif to see them again smile.gif
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QUOTE(whyseej00 @ Feb 22 2013, 11:46 AM)
The probabilities are not adjusted to winning percentage of a bet. Ie the winning chance on a red/black bet in single zero wheel is 48.65% and not 50% as claimed. Nothing in casino is 50/50

In 3 games model, probability of winning 3 bets in a row is 11.51% and losing 3 times in a row is 13.53%. Over more games, the gap will become wider and wider. So tread with care bros. It's not as easy as it sounds
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Sauce
Probability
Banker wins 0.458597
Player wins 0.446247
Tie 0.095156

Ignoring tie in baccarat . Spliting the odds for tie to both Banker + Player, 0.095156/2 = 0.047578
Banker wins = 0.458597 + 0.047578 = 0.506175
Player wins = 0.493825

With this I can say it's close to 50%-50% after reducing the 5% commision on banker wins.

Regarding the streaks in baccarat ---> Wizard of Odds Seems like my calculation earlier is correct

Note
I don't play the wheel only bangala ~

This post has been edited by ghoss: Feb 22 2013, 12:32 PM
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post Feb 22 2013, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(PUPUMAMA @ Feb 22 2013, 12:35 PM)
1-3-7-22-67 = 100 rclxub.gif
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you count wrong liao sweat.gif

1-3-7-15-31 baru correct
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post Feb 22 2013, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(whyseej00 @ Feb 22 2013, 12:44 PM)
Please double check this:
1.WWW = +3 (1+1+1)
2.WWL =+1 (1+1-1)
3.WLW =+3 (1-1+3)
4.WLL  =-3 (1-1-3)
5.LWW =+3 (-1+3+1)
6.LLW  =+3 (-1-3+7)
7.LWL  =+1 (-1+3-1)
8.LLL  =-11 (-1-3-7)


Also if you are going to bet on so called 50/50 bets then single zero wheel black/red yields a higher winning percentage (which is 48.65 as opposed to banker 45.85. Both also NOT 50-50).

If you read careful in wizardofodds:
I get asked a lot about the probability of getting x bets in a row correct in baccarat. Not that the answer is of any value, but to end the questions, I submit the following table

If you have been reading wizardofodds then you will know that he is super anti martingale or system of any form. I will say that NO system has been proven to win 100% in long games. Casino wins in long run.

The reason I'm giving these points is because I don't want fellow GGC members to feel that this system is sure fire to work. TREAD WITH CARE
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The reason I calculate it this way

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1.WWW = +1
2.WWL =+1
3.WLW =+1
4.WLL =+1
5.LWW =+2
6.LLW =+3
7.LWL =+2
8.LLL =-7


Is because you bet in sets of 3. As normally this is a 3 games streak , once you won 1 game you have to restart from the beginning to form a 3 game streak. Example,

WLL = You win 1 unit , but lose 2 in a row , the 3rd game is the deciding it to be a WLLW or WLLL . If it's LLW then you get +4 unit else -10 unit .

I didn't say this is a sure 100% matter as someone has to be the loser for someone to win , if there is a 100% method then there will be no loser thus no winner.

for this part
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The reason I'm giving these points is because I don't want fellow GGC members to feel that this system is sure fire to work. TREAD WITH CARE


Ask Pink Spider how many times I splash him cold water liao tongue.gif
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post Feb 22 2013, 01:25 PM

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^ this kind of kannasai attitude how to win money ?

Money also run away
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post Feb 22 2013, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(PUPUMAMA @ Feb 22 2013, 02:32 PM)
Bet like that can win ar?

Boss, today you want me to stand or sit?
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can but not 100%


QUOTE(Stimx @ Feb 22 2013, 02:33 PM)
Ghoss yestrday morning i saw dragon 6game... @ home CT, if like that will lose till 'fu lat'  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Stimx @ Feb 22 2013, 02:41 PM)
thumbup.gif in fact martingale is very risky. never know la.... as i seen these long dragon before in banggala, a streak of black or red in wheel and a streak of big/small in tai sai.. thats why if u that sui that day sit on one of those table.. can say KNS and will hate limbobo for the rest of the day..... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(darude87 @ Feb 22 2013, 02:42 PM)
since you guys are on martingale topic. I do have a friend 100% believe martingale will WIN.
I told him ,what if you suey and its a 10 streak dragon, he say "won't 1 ! sure will turn 1 !"  doh.gif
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let me clear the air for you guys.
Martingale =/= streak in games like 10 in a row banker /player / red / black.

Martingale is a betting system . Selecting to bet (bet all banker/player/red/black) is a selection method.

I could probably flip a coin to decide what to bet also still can win money , but the risk to lose is there.

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