Challenges ahead for the KL-Singapore high-speed rail — Francis E Hutchinson - See more at:
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/what-you...is-e-hutchinson

The HSR is expected to run up to four times an hour, of which one will be the direct service from Kuala Lumpur to Singapore.

A one-way ticket between the two cities is to cost an estimated S$60-65, which is about three times the cost of a bus trip, but cheaper than budget air travel.

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As land management is a state government responsibility, the opposition-controlled government of Selangor can delay land acquisition in and around Kuala Lumpur if it wishes to do so.

Assuming that 2016 is spent finalising the details, the design and tendering processes will occur in 2017.

If the eventual winners of the bid do not need to raise capital, construction can begin in 2018.

Allowing five years for construction and no delays, services can be expected to begin in 2023-24.

High Speed Rail — who gets what, when and how? (and who pays for it?) — Liew Chin Tong
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/what-you...it-liew-chin-to


Based on the only useful answer provided by Wahid, that the KLHSR will have 18 million passengers in its 10th year of operation, I do not want to appear as a skeptic, but the number clearly seems too optimistic. The Eurostar High Speed Rail between London and Paris, has only passed the 10 million passenger mark in 2013, almost two decades after going into operation.

Combined together, the population of London and Paris is almost similar to that of the pair of Kuala Lumpur and Singapore. However, the size of economy and the spending power of the London-Paris are obviously a lot larger compared to Kuala Lumpur-Singapore. Is the projection of achieving 18 million passengers a year a wishful goal or substantiated by sound and pragmatic calculations?


The most widely cited estimated cost of HSR project is now at RM60 billion.

Some of the questions Hutchinson raised in his paper should be discussed publicly.

First, will Singapore and Malaysia contribute equal proportions of the necessary capital? (definately no ! )

Second, given the sheer magnitude of the project, it is likely that both governments will need to make a financial contribution of some magnitude. Who pays for what components?

Third, tender — will both countries operate one bidding process and jointly choose a service provider? Or will Singapore and Malaysia carry out their own bidding processes and separately supervise construction on their own soil? Should this be the case, the infrastructure would then need to be joined and integrated — an additional complication.

Fourth, irrespective of whether the project is handled jointly or separately, will the tender(s) go to consortia comprising specialist companies with different expertise, or will the project be broken down into smaller packages that are managed separately?

Fifth, the relationship between the direct KL-Singapore express (direct route) and the commuter service (linking secondary cities) has yet to be finalised.

The government owes the Malaysian public many answers for the largest ever infrastructure project. Chief among which is this: Do we really need a High Speed Rail?

i've saying all along, is it sustainable, Malaysia how many are high income to afford paying fare for HSR, so many businessman kah? GST naik skit all complain to hell.. really Malaysian can afford?

1MDB board of directors offers to resign after PAC report
http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...ter-pac-report/

It is now well known that 1MDB only had RM 1 million cash equity, which necessitated a heavy dependence on borrowings to fund investments.

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The company has paid and will continue to pay off all its short term debt and all its bank debt with the proceeds from the successful sale of Edra, and currently has a cash surplus of approx. RM2.3 billion to meet future interest payment and infrastructure finance requirements.

HSR sure go to China, without the Chinese bought Edra, IMDB already insolvent & Jir Gor is gone.

mostly business trip... yg lain naik bus la...

I oso say same things, not much ppl will be willing to spend tis kind of money, rely on business trip sure cannot sustain, especially now most company cutting down overseas trip and rely more on video call......

well that's what I'm saying from day 1.

Sure HSR project goes to China

Assets rich but poor cash in hand

why not...its cheaper than air fare

HSR also save on time, no need to check in airport 2 to 3 hours before boarding and don't forget to reach Sepang Airport from KL need another 45 minutes.

yup..i think air asia who should be worried..majority will pick HSR as their mode of transportation to KL/spore

If the fare is only SGD $60 - 65 .. Why not? I will consider taking HSR back and forth from sg to Kl..

PM : High speed rail MoU to be signed soon
http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...d-soon-says-pm/

China lead Consortium emerge as winner

HSR is 'given' to China on paper

just MOU with Singapore,
than only process open tender, still long time to wait who is winner.
anyway, china have advantage in project cost saving about 10-15% and experience in rail construction Malaysia via many local rail project

This post has been edited by waja2000: Apr 13 2016, 05:36 PM

I'll ride this over AA anyday.

HSR may begin ops in 2027
http://www.nst.com.my/news/2016/04/141321/...-begin-ops-2027

noe further delay the timeline, later further increase the cost..

Properties along HSR also have "delay impact" in appreciation?

Need 7 years for construction meh? If HSR really give to China, they should take shorter time let say 5 years based on their past record.

This post has been edited by Palmwalker001: Apr 26 2016, 02:06 PM