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post Feb 9 2025, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(batman1172 @ Feb 9 2025, 12:05 PM)
Why so low not above 6 😳
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Because ter-sell MAHB low
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post Feb 9 2025, 12:41 PM

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Cannot pay too high. Keep for general election year
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post Feb 9 2025, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(BenChiew @ Feb 9 2025, 12:44 PM)
Old news. The shares were sold end of 2023.
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Keep for 2024 then higher dividend loh
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post Feb 12 2025, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Feb 12 2025, 12:00 AM)
Below 5.8% go Penang for holiday
Above 5.8% to 6.0% go Genting for holiday
Above 6.0% to 6.2% go Hatyai for holiday
Above 6.2% go Bangkok for holidays
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Thai authorities Setel'ed Team body parts harvesters?
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post Feb 19 2025, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 19 2025, 06:38 PM)
#Malaysians withdrew RM12.07 billion from EPF Flexible Account till Dec 31

#Involved 4.11 million members, which represents 31.1 per cent of the total 13.2 million EPF members under the age of 55

#The total remaining balance in the Flexible Account is RM7.73 billion

https://www.thevibes.com/articles/news/1050...ear-amir-hamzah
MEANWHILE ANOTHER NEWS POSTED PREVIOUSLY

Whopping RM13bil in voluntary ‘top-up’ by EPF members last year
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...bers-last-year/
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like this it's wiser to give higher % dividend to Account 3 to encourage people not to withdraw and lower % to Account 1 since it's locked.
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post Feb 19 2025, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 19 2025, 08:30 PM)
whoa bro you dare propose that? Many in here would not agree, me the 1st to protest

the wise move wont work also

how much money is there in acc 3?
the small flies you try to pander

how much in Acc1?
the big sharks would run

who are the people who WD account 3?
would they care if EPF pays 10% also??

it would back fire instead
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ahaha not me. Finance Minister of course, and yes, he needs to pander their votes. They'll do the calculation and choose the optimal solution. Maybe some extra bonus if don't withdraw Account 3.
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post Feb 19 2025, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 19 2025, 08:46 PM)
Agreed to higher dividend for account 3 👍

But disagree for lower dividend for account 1 👎

Better keep status quo... Dividend rate same for all 3 account...
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Slowly lah. They'll do careful analytics first and apply the best solution to win voters with minimal withdrawals. See, they increase 60k>100k to offset account 3 withdrawals. Everyone happy for now.
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post Feb 20 2025, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Feb 20 2025, 08:39 AM)
Impossible for a liquid account to have a higher dividend rate than others.
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Anything can happen to fish votes lah. Remember the one-off $500 freebie for balance <10k?

QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Feb 20 2025, 08:42 AM)
Wooi. You Kim Jong Un ah??  ranting.gif  ranting.gif  ranting.gif
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I thought Emperor Kim only take and not give?

QUOTE(Jenn77 @ Feb 20 2025, 08:45 AM)
One idiot in my taman whatsapp group keep posting unverified news about EPF dividend hitting 6.3%. I got excited awhile until I check here.. LOL.  biggrin.gif
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Tell the idiot 5.7% to 6.3% only 10% difference. For every 10k dividend, extra 1k only. Unless s/he has millions in EPF, like my school teacher used to teach - "boleh diabaikan".
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post Feb 20 2025, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 20 2025, 10:40 AM)
You want to retain money from moving out, is easy

forget about the Account 3 withdrawal.. that is chicken feeds only.

just come pander up to big sharks
increase voluntary contribution to 200k , or more a year

straight away can double up or triple
that is more than enough to give EPF extra cash
compared to the  outflow in acc 3.
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That's a good idea. No wonder you 生意發發.

One possible problem - civil unrest if they open up to everyone. That's why Finance Minister needs to weigh everything.
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post Feb 20 2025, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 20 2025, 01:14 PM)
Only FSA2 use collateral... Others loans cannot...

beneficiaries receive as cash... No direct transfer to EPF account sadly....
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i think he knew that.

Can use as collateral to apply credit card ah? I mean, i know it's over, but back then?

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post Feb 28 2025, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(wuwuwu @ Feb 28 2025, 09:46 AM)
According to kwsp app retire calculator with 3% avg increment, if i work until 60 yo, i have RM 4M. Ada betui ke?!
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Tarak betul. Your average increment should be more than that. Maybe 10%, more if you jump like a frog.
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post Feb 28 2025, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(wuwuwu @ Feb 28 2025, 12:08 PM)
Case study:

2015, convert RM 267,716 to SGD 100,000 to "keep value", assume total compound 10% interest for 10 years, jadi SGD 110,000, x 3.2891 > RM 361,801

if 2015 keep RM 267,716 to KWSP, assume total compound 70% interest for 10 years, jadi RM 455,117

extra RM 93,316 @ 34.8%. Conclusion, 10 years ago simpan wang to SG bank then susut nilai kaw kaw. ​
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As of February 2025, the best fixed deposit (FD) rates in Singapore range from 2.40% to 2.90% per annum.
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post Feb 28 2025, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Feb 28 2025, 04:54 PM)
i self contribute 5k on 26th Feb and today want login to check see got masuk or not
hopefully got masuk else my 5k hilang 1 bulan interest
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I help someone deposit on 26th. App FPX reflected at midnite as 27th. Online Banking pay EPF not yet reflect.
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post Feb 28 2025, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Feb 28 2025, 04:27 PM)
at least 3 people here can buy lexus with epf dividend

i can only buy roadside auntie nasi lemak...
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roadkill nasi lemak no dividend cannot afford?
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post Feb 28 2025, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Feb 28 2025, 07:48 PM)
Can. But we're just sharing the size of dividend which will be announced tomorrow 🚀
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Yalah. After dividend you can afford to acquire Nasi Lemak Madam Kuan already
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post Feb 28 2025, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 28 2025, 07:55 PM)
Online banking one would be only reflected midnite of 28 Feb...

1 day late compared with FPX @ i-akaun method

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Yeah, but my CNY one took 2 days, i.e. paid on 29th, reflected on Feb 1 as Jan 31.
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post Mar 1 2025, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Mar 1 2025, 08:26 AM)
if i go for syariah fund, can i go back to conventional later?
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Why you want to do that? Nobody does that, so, no such option. There's a certain percentage one-off deduction to sucikan conventional-to-syariah.
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post Mar 1 2025, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(GambitFire @ Mar 1 2025, 12:53 PM)
Confirm. Trump will plunge the whole world into chaos lol. Already happening. This might be the highest dividend we receive and the next few years might be below 6

But I syukur la I’m only 36 and got dividend of 58k which I’m grateful for. Just work and be grateful for what we get.
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The world wants entropy. It can just realign its vision to Stormy Don's vision, or simply impose some tariffs on China.
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post Mar 2 2025, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 2 2025, 02:54 PM)
Their performance is still below KWAP one which is around 12% ROI

Probably because bigger size AUM which effects their deployment of $$$...
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Have to compare what KWAP does. I didnt really check KWAP, but last time i check, EPF has to buy some govt bonds or something like that with low returns. Just checked, around 4%. High risk high return.
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post Mar 2 2025, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 2 2025, 04:13 PM)
QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Mar 2 2025, 04:14 PM)
Bro

Both epf n kwap hold billions and billions of govt bonds.  Epf being far larger, of course, has far more.

Its under the asset allocation. Kwap is slightly more aggressive than epf asset allocation wise. Kwap.has 35% bonds. Epf has 46%. Most of these bonds are Malaysian govt bonds.
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i mean i lazy to check and compare. As far as i'm concerned, if they went for tech in the US last year, should've made a big fat return.

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