In my gym, many have hug muscles, & they have high level of confidence --> drop weight like a champion, roars, give advices etc..

but why don't they cardio? does gym at your place have this kind of pregnanted-bodybuilder too? buncit but can't stop posing, OMG

hmmm y u bother so much?

I don't feel comfortable and convinced when these 'pro' advise me.. like when I was doing sit up with my ways, these pro came in say this and that.. (if I take of my shirt at least I don't have the 1 pack abs.. opss)

1 more thing, they like to be naked in the gym

Why do it bother you?

Everyone has their own training style. Let them be.

so you are okay with the annoying one?

I'll just turn on my ipod louder and keep doing what i'm doing.

Advice pon tanak dengar..

You don't have to do it, listen his argument and analyze. It's not that hard. They might have a point to ponder.

it is always good to listen to their opinion. Sometime is wrong and sometime is right, but you need to evaluate..being bodoh sombong won't give you shiet..

I don't care how many decade u have been training, i prefer result.. the so called sifu with no result cant convince ppl..

I dont do kardio. And I no buncit.

Did you know lifting also burns calories? So basically kill two birds using one stone.

at the gym that i go to, they prohibit dropping the weights. so its annoying when somone drop it. so if your gym have the same rule, then you should go complaint to the owner or management. As for posing half naked, just ignore them. when u get really ripped, then join them posing

Just because they have a "one pack" doesn't mean their core isn't strong. So don't discard their advice just because of that. See if there is any truth in what they say, if it's bro-science then just ignore.

About them not doing cardio, some times it's a personal choice. Maybe not everyone wants a lean body. Cheers!

Maybe they're in the bulking stage.

I hate people dropping weights on purpose, some like throwing the weights on floor...wtf...

Last time i joined ghetto gym, the owner will scold gao gao....

you do know bodybuilder have off seasons right ?

They do but some take bulking too far. Lol. With or without steroids, the amount of muscle lost doing an aggressive cut after an aggressive bulk kinda defeats the purpose. Look at people who stay reasonably lean all year round like Dan and jonh91. Even though bulking they don't let it go overboard.

This post has been edited by darklight79: Feb 17 2013, 02:29 PM

hi every body, i am in gym and enjoying with thread replies

dun scold me i am work out now. see ya

btw, is whey protein contain steroid stuff....?

no

Yes. it'll make you too huge. You won't be a natural anymore.

one say yes, one say no, which is which correct?

This post has been edited by jimlim007: Feb 17 2013, 08:39 PM

1) Are they bigger than you?
2) Can they lift more than you?

If the answer to question 1) and 2) are both yes, then listen to them.

80% diet, 20%% workout/cardio. The problem is with their diet.

darklight is a doctor ! of course he's correct
dont take whey,most of us here not natural anymore by taking whey

shit, i will stop take it, it will cut my life. will give it to my fren.

Ok.........................................................................................

Regs.... please enlighten this guy. I just realized he's new to this section and doesn't know my posts very well. Cos I'm just too...... too.....

to correct him.

you cant sense sarcasm can you? lulz.
they're joking with u

Lol. Thanks wei. After he really give away his powder and blames me for it.

lol i thought he got it already then read wanna gave it to his friend

Free steroids.... haha

WHERE WHERE I NEEED SOME GIMME PLS.

off season for years..

Actually, you have a point. Bulking isn't an excuse to look like a fat ass in the gym. Haha, a lot of people look like that. Permabulking.

what is this shit.. u should listen to Big ShoW!

Erm, I'd listen to people who can lift better than me, then again, that is if I listen

Nothing wrong IMO.

As a matter of fact, exchanging of knowledge = helps us improve and evaluate ourselves.

People will naturally feel more comfortable to accept advices from ripped builders, but why diss those who can lift more than you when you are not even close to the elite/respectable level?

Once you reach the respectable level, IMO, you won't be bothered, not by the groaning sound, the weights dropping, the half naked-ness. No one would even bother advising you except for a few whom feel that you need to follow their regime to get as big as them which is pure BS.

Cardio doesn't mean ripped. I can run 10km every morning and lift for 5 hours every evening but if I consume 8000cal daily, I'm still gonna look like a fat ass.

Monday blues, I have to be, fun and ya, our very own favourite guy here, hates cardio *no homo

Those are fat people, unless you are anywhere near that. o0o

Oi, if people giveaway whey for free then send it my way.

10km every morning

he is really a damm bad guy i really believe what he is saying, since he is kind of pro at here as other referring to. But look like he is some how can be bad thought his word made me so worry last night, cause i cannot take steroid type person.

btw, how to know if any of those protein, mass gainer, creatine, bcaa, contain steroid? will it mark/ wrote under ingredient list? i checked the nitrotech ingredient label, it does not have written any word of steroid, but i unsure how true of it. but after his words, i googling and found in other forum, there are similar questions, and some of them say it have steroid but may be some element of steroid.....

You think Big Show isn't more advanced than you?



That's Big Show, little man. He looks like he could curl your body weight with one hand even if he's not ready to step on the stage.

Yeah, I'd listen to him alright..

This post has been edited by joeblows: Feb 18 2013, 12:19 PM

Its not in the labels, but yeah got steroids inside. Dont take supplements if u cant handle roids.

LOL

damn u, stop misleading

Wei... bila balik. Jom shisha soon.

I call u, after this month, i free

let me help you here
do more readings
wikipedia

and .....all supplements you listed down here doesnt contains steroid
just lift !

They don't?

I dont want this kind of chubby shape tq

Brother. Not taking sides here. And no offense and with all due respect, I wouldn't listen to Big Show. Lol. It's a fat f***, i don't care how strong he is. I'd rather respect a natural competitor with single digit bf% and lifting elite numbers compared to a 300 plus pounder lifting elite poundages.

I don't disagree with your opinion. I too don't want to be too fat as well.

But you can't dismiss or laugh at those guys who get fat but can lift huuuuuuge weights. Especially if they are stronger than me. Especially if like TS I'm just a noob beginner.

Well said. Point taken. But tell me is this impressive? 132 pounds of bodyweight, 610 deadlift for REPS.



This post has been edited by darklight79: Feb 19 2013, 04:00 PM

You..... just do your deadlifts, squats and bench please. Fyi I do those 3 on top of my other workouts.

Very impressive. Respect to the man. Definitely elite pulling 5x bodyweight....

Here's something equally impressive. George Leeman pulling 864 deadlift.



This guy used to post on a forum I visited. He bulked up to 385lbs (obese level) as a teenager via chocolate milk, pizza and all kinds of junk but that enabled him to get the insane strength during his prime years. He lost most of the fat and is still strong as a bull...

This post has been edited by joeblows: Feb 21 2013, 01:02 AM

tq dude

another question, i have start abs work last week, i watched 2 video from youtube, 1st is 8min abs workout, 2nd is mike change 6min (bending stomach, touch toe, and push up position tahan 30sec - 20reps 3-4sets)

actually, i found the workout is quite different between these 2 video, anyone can advise what is the best workout for abs.

any of it will do, don have such BEST workout, as long as u workout consistently it is the best.

u can do both of it too, like this week do the 1st, next week do the other.

tell u wat, elite and pro here not really do their ab workout

WHOA 60kg guy lift 270kg @@

I found this today!

They are only muscles and strengths, no stamina at all

not all.. but some a big yes i think.. curve stomach ><

if u refer to those big big muscles fella, i can 100% confirm no stamina, muscles too big too hard to move.

if u refer to those normal or moderate muscles fella then those probably with stamina.

I know a few full marathoners who are big and huge muscle men

IIRC, he is not new to this section. Remember a bit of flame wars at the end of last year about sarcasm that involves me as the villain?

i don reli care all about that, but when come to they doing workout wit half naked, the sweat left on the bench ....tat is eiuuuuuuu ><

Most gym goers who lift heavy "hate" to do cardio... They are not WRONG. They choose what they want in life. As for overall fitness, it's always a good idea to throw in a few sessions of cardio. I think I should hit the treadmill today

Also actually if you do a circuit weight lifting training, it's cardio vascular exercise as well

first of all.. sit-ups r useless for building abs

you dont have to be so b****y about those big+no definition guy.. just leave them alone and thats their goal

do best your own part. show them your 6/8 packs so that they can shut their mouth. or you're just a weak kid?

maybe they are Poerlifters...PL dont need cardio

How do you know they don't do cardio? some people run OUTSIDE, I for one would rather run around a park or up a hill than run on a machine

Or he can be big and have 6 packs at the same time, that's even better.

i drop 20% bodyfat by just weight training and 100% dieting.

why need cardio?

yeah just like you darkie!

Fat dy la. =(

your metabolism rate so high need no worry

I fall under the obese category

you're putting your live at risk!

IMO, cardio is #1 priority over lifting weights for me. No point being so buff but can't run long distance

is this runners forum?

This post has been edited by janson_kaniaz: Mar 16 2013, 12:57 PM

My post isn't in anyway related to what TS said?

then u must b pretty FIT! but too bad not STRONG..

i dont see a point being able to run long distance.


see, this is a bodybuilding section. its like me going to the runners thread and saying the above. sure its your opinion, but keep it to where it belongs. you're definitely get flak for posting your opinion in the wrong places.

Maybe you guys are just taking it too seriously.

alright, i'll lighten up a bit then.


you're an idiot.

is that better?

Guess, I've to lighten up a bit as well.

You're an idiot.

Is that better?

glad we're on the same page.

Likewise

dude lopo90.. seriously cardio is not about how much or how long u can run. u should do more research

I'm going to tell you in a civil manner. You're being very rude and provocative. Mikehuan was telling you in a nice way that it is not ethical to come into a subsection for a specific sport and and deliberately talking about that sport/hobby in a disparaging manner.

I wouldn't say you're an idiot yet, but you're just being stubborn and trying to save face by persisting in posting like this when everyone is clearly against you here. Look again at all your posts and tell me if you're being impolite or not.

TS thread was mentioning about cardio and my reply was for him. I just made a comment about cardio and you guys got so worked up about it.

This post has been edited by lopo90: Mar 16 2013, 04:26 PM

lopo90. I am not worked up. But I am looking at it from a third person's POV.

Tell me if this is confrontational and insulting? Do you see us going into the runner's forum and saying "no point being able to run long distance if so skinny?" Do stop provoking the regulars here. I know a lot of them in real life and they are very nice people. And for you to make statements which annoy nice people.... well.....

Everyone got their own motivation their own priorities..i do both cardio and lift weights. this being strength forum, so no surprise bodybuilding is more popular here. i dont see one being better than the other..thats like comparing apples with oranges..

I don't see how my statement could provoke you guys so much. As I said, my reply was meant for TS.

Sigh. Your wish. What's with young fellas and their ego nowadays. Are you related to GodTier? I'm putting your on ignore. So annoying.

Do as you please. I can't stop you

thats why lol. suddenly felt malas wanna reply cos it reminded me of the absolutism mentality that is GodTier. Easier to read though, this one writes simple sentences instead of those annoying analogies

I'll butt in /k/ style ... Olympic don't lie , so choose which is your poison ... anything else give a link + reason or GTFO

Cardio



Cardio + Lift



Lift

^ this is grossly simplifying things.. if you measure health base solely on aesthetics then i guess you are right.

then again those real pro bodybuilders majority are on steroids. how healthy is that?

This post has been edited by myvi5949: Mar 16 2013, 08:40 PM

This is getting f***ing ridiculous. Lol. To each his own people!

so meaning that darklight is on steroids?? huhuhu thats just plain provocative... ouch...