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mikehuan
post Jul 3 2013, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(Steven_aka_G @ Jul 3 2013, 12:56 AM)
I don't know about the regs here, but I'll recommend if you skip a day between legs and back. Training either of these two parts would hit the whole body hard and might affect your lifts.

This of course, is after assuming you do deadlifts and squats + you go heavy on the two lifts.
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Same could be said for Wed and Thurs.
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post Jul 5 2013, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(VaLeNrUdOn @ Jul 5 2013, 10:58 AM)
ermm by dead i meant total failure doing it with good form.
care to shed a little light on why you would move on?
for years i've been taught to finish up my reps...but i've never really ventured out to serious poundages. now that i'm trying that out, i'm facing this prob. so i'd like to understand further on how u pros do it and why?
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HEres the thing about reps. Your muscle don't know you're doing 8. It knows it can only do 6.

FOr me it depends. Sometimes I drop and continue and sometimes I don't. Depends on how I feel. By feel I mean if I drop the weights can I still do more in good form or if I'm just gonna grind it up?
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post Jul 16 2013, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(Jen55nifer @ Jul 16 2013, 10:53 AM)
Mike you don't have blood. You have alcohol in your veins.user posted imageuser posted imageuser posted imageuser posted imageuser posted imageuser posted imageuser posted image
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dafuq. which dupe are you?
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post Jul 26 2013, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(XyzionzX @ Jul 26 2013, 11:04 AM)
Newbie here, wanna ask, how to burn fat faster? If can fat burner is avoided, just wanna have natural fat burn
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ill list out the various ways:

- having more muscle mass
- high metabolism
- cardio
- insulin manipulation
- glycogen depletion workouts
- diet

research them before asking further
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post Jul 27 2013, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(AmmoShaf @ Jul 27 2013, 06:02 AM)
Just start hitting the gym for 2 days. As I'm not having any friends or trainer to advice I think I might doing many exercise wrongly. As example, yesterday when I'm doing biceps, today instead of feeling the pain at muscles, I felt the pain at the joint between bicep and forearm. I try to get some guidance from someone in the gym, but they are busy doing their stuff, so I don't want to disturb them too much. I'm totally a newbie, I don't even know the machines names. I know I can learn many things online, but it is totally different when I practically doing it at the gym. I guess I'm not that type of fast learner when it comes to this.

After finished working out, I talked to this one guy(looks experience to me) seeking for his advice on what can I do. So he start asking me whether I want to bulk up a lot or just getting some shape to my body. As my body is normal to skinny(athletic) type, I said to him I want to bulk up a bit and then having some shape. Then he gives me some advice including regularly workout 5 times per week, discipline, concentrate when working out, and don't give up early when I can't see result in 2 or 3 months. I understand that things, but before this I read some articles provide by Sifu DL regarding workout planner for newbies and in a week, one should only working out 3 times. Actually I'm looking for some advice from many experience sifu here, how do I start? I don't want to make that no trainer and friends thing as an excuse to not working out. But at the same time I don't want hurt my body by doing something wrong.
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how many days you workout is pretty subjective. i think the point hes trying to get across is you should be training 3 days MINIMUM in a week. i dont see any reasons why u cant workout more days.

as for workouts, check youtube, really helpful. lots of vids from people like scott herman showing you the proper form to do exercises. so if you cant get someone to help you just help yourself.

as for how to start, again, look online. loads of training programs you can follow. although its best for newbies to follow them to the letter, a little deviation should be alright. the main fact is that you're starting in the right direction. focus now on getting your forms right and getting into the habit of working out. its a lifestyle change, not a short term thing.

read read read online. forums like bb.com and tnation. myself in the beginning i used to read for hours every day on every subject that relates to weightlifting and bodybuilding. you will find sites like tnation sets the bar WAY up there lol.
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post Jul 27 2013, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jul 27 2013, 09:27 AM)
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post Jul 28 2013, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(potemkin @ Jul 28 2013, 01:38 PM)
Don't really get this part , but i do pull my lats back first then pull it up with my fore-arms. Still don't feel anything in my back , mostly on my arms and shoulders.
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Hmm. How heavy are you going? Did you pull your shoulder blades down? Chest out? Shoulder width grip? Bend from the hips? Flare your lats?
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post Aug 5 2013, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(free_enuf @ Aug 5 2013, 11:47 AM)
Imported mine from amazon.com, eSource on amazon to be precise. Shipping only 8.95usd per order. Got mine within a month. Another source, HD sports on FB, pricey though RM145 for Heatgear compression T versus 24.95usd on amazon. I got bored of all mine procombat compression and moved on to UA.

Edit: HD sports is local web based, ship the next day.
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cant find HD sports in facebook.
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post Aug 15 2013, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Aug 15 2013, 02:11 AM)
I quote from HD Sports

Men’s Heatgear® Sonic Compression Sleeveless

RM 145
MD, LG, XL
ID: 1236226

Nike Pro Combat Compression is retailing at 159 at KLCC. I'm sure you can get cheaper outside so....

With a mere difference of 14 bucks, HD sports is selling it at a high price tbh.

It cost only 60 SGD for that same compression shirt, If I just buy 1 pc from US. Imagine if we make a bulk, won't it be way cheaper compared to HD Sports?

Just saying  whistling.gif
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60 sgd including shipping? Is Not a very big margin of profit tbh. And you don't have to wait, cajole ppl to group buy with you, collect payment etc. Pretty worth for the trouble saved

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post Aug 29 2013, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(adix4 @ Aug 29 2013, 03:08 PM)
no, i have a good shoulder mobility and i've been going all the way down while strapping 45lbs between my d1ck

and mind you, i was using Ironmind dip belt

>show off baru beli ironmind punya belt
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What is ironmind? What is so good about it?
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post Aug 31 2013, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(YakAttack @ Aug 30 2013, 11:56 AM)
Damn it, Im getting too fat off my bulk. Losing stamina and running out of breathe much faster than usual. Is it a good idea incorporating cardio into my routine...? Something like 20 minute cycling?
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Lol you have any idea how much cardio you need to do before it gets detrimental for muscle gain?

I know someone who runs 5 to 6km per day on treadmill and still bigger than your average gym goer.
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post Sep 4 2013, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(Trait0r @ Sep 4 2013, 03:50 PM)
Hi guys, a question regarding squats, is it normal if I cant go below parallel when doing squats?

Doing 5x5 with low bar squats and shoulder width stance but check the form and I noticed knees passing toes and could not go below parallel, should I do high bar squats instead? with narrower stance. confused about the whole low bar/wide stance & high bar/narrow stance squats.
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QUOTE(YakAttack @ Sep 4 2013, 05:53 PM)
Exact same issue here, I try to go as low as I can but I just cant go below parallel.
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Why wouldn't you be able to go past parallel? Never took a shit in a squatting WC before?
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post Sep 4 2013, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(-Dan @ Sep 4 2013, 10:15 PM)
No joke, brah. I've had friends who could only get a bit  lower than a quarter squat before falling forward/backward. Their mobility was that bad sweat.gif
No worries.
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First world problems =.="
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post Oct 7 2013, 02:40 AM

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wow this place gone dead lately.

time for the regs to post a progress pic? that thread dunno go where already lol. hows everyone doing?

i'll start:

as i am still injured (left knee, basketball, dont ask), i have started trying to squat and deadlift again. did military press, DL, squat, bench on the same day after a week long hiatus from gym. Deadlift : 100kg x 5 (last set, left knee shaking and in pain)
Squats: 70kg x 5 (last set, also in pain)

but its a start. atm my right leg is feeling most of the it as it took over to compensate, and my left knee hurts more than usual though i can still walk around

for the past month i have been skipping leg days and doing hypertrophy based workouts (10 reppers, lower rest times). still being able to look pretty much the same, around 13/14ish BF% with some -slight- development on arms and shoulders.

just a report, no need to pity. injuries comes with sports and its not the first time. i'll bounce around this in time as well.
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post Oct 9 2013, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(ExCrIpT @ Oct 9 2013, 01:09 AM)
Would like to ask a question. In. A cutting phase, why increase fat intake( good fats) during cutting phase? Isn't t better to have minimal fat intake during that time?

How would increasing the intake help with fat loss
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Insulin spikes. Google that.

Fat also keeps you sated longer, less hunger pangs = less calorie intake.
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QUOTE(dirtymartini @ Oct 10 2013, 10:59 AM)
But think about it, how does thermogenesis work? it's increased energy expenditure from the nervous system for higher metabolism. plus consuming 2500 calories in 6 meals and 2500 calories in 1 meal would result in the same amount of thermogenics no?

yeah, i am familiar with his routine, i did a cycle, dropped 7% in 3 months. there are some issues to note:

-he is already big and strong, unlike most people he is targeting the program for. so with more muscle, you lift more weights, more hypertrophy despite the high reps.

-too little squats and deadlifts which have carryovers to your other lifts unlike isolations like leg ext and leg curls. isolation WILL build muscle, but not too functional ones. how often in real life do we replicate the movement of a leg ext?

-doesnt matter how simple each meal is, eating 6 meals a day takes A LOT of time. and the lower fat fcks up your testosterone. why lower your testosterone at all?

lastly, kris is already a very big guy, prolly can bench a lot. i dont know how far 300 reps of bench press with low weights will get you, other than an extremely pumped chest.
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i dont see thermogenic effect would really be much of an effect considering the effort put in. how much extra cals are u gonna burn with thermogenics in place? right, we dont know. how much weight you gonna lose if you reduce 200 cals from your daily maintenance? this you can find out.

the way i see it, you dont need to do this unless you're like at sub 10% bf, 3 weeks away from a comp.

functional strength imo is pretty baseless. how often do you deadlift something off the ground? in what way do you clean and jerk something in your everyday routine? imo the only functional strength that applies to rl is muscle ups, and even then its just an option.
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post Oct 10 2013, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(dirtymartini @ Oct 10 2013, 12:13 PM)
yeah the thermogenic effect is not quantifiable for now, so let's leave it at that. but i will stand by my IF, having 1 or 2 meals a day is good for me.

on the issue of functional strength.
i actually think picking up a heavy box or sofa is more relevant than muscling up on a tree...

but that's not what i meant. isolations are great, but they isolate. our muscles were never made to work individually. how often do you replicate a bicep curl or a kickback? what fires together wires together. we are made to move around and isolation may result in muscular imbalances (tho they can also correct it depending on what you do).

now aesthetics is very good. but to medley aesthetics with functional strength, that would be better. so, no harm in throwing in leg ext at the end of the wo to get that tear drop quadssss.
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What I'm trying to convey here is the term functional strength itself is misleading. Compounds or isolation don't matter. It's fine if you train for strength, but to train for functional strength? I've yet to hear a reasonable description on the term functional when it comes to weightlifting.

Doing compounds exclusively can also lead to muscle imbalances, fyi.

Tbh I don't think we're disagreeing with one another in this lol. Just debating for the sake of debating tongue.gif

Edit: for the record, I'm also on IF regularly, right now I'm on a short of hiatus as I have some allergies acting up. If you check my journal you can see what I train for.

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Oct 11 2013, 08:38 AM)
Hey guys, I've been doing one arm DB rows for a while now. I started with 14kg for 2 sets of 12 reps, way back in August this year. I've then progressed to 18kg for 2 sets of 12 reps in September 2013.

Don't think there's any problems with form as I don't have much pain at all on my back. Mostly weak arms/grips giving way at the 10th rep or so, so I usually cheats my last 2 reps.

I started trying out 20kg at 3 oct. And I've been having this weird pain when I turn my torso in both directions (pain is more apparent as I turn left). There's no pain when I turn my torso slightly, it's the movement like when you're in the driver's seat and you're trying to reach the back seat to get some stuff that type of torso turning.

I understand that 20kg might be too heavy for me and I've been cheating by turning my torso ever slightly to bring the weight up. I'll drop the weight back down to 18kg for this movement.

I've been told that I have to go heavy on this otherwise it won't do shit. I'm sorry for the long write up, so my question is, what is your best tip to do this movement with heavy weight. How do you avoid turning your torso to deal with the heavy load? Do your flex your abs all the way?

ps: I do my rows on a bench.
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Switch to barbell for a while. Guranteed no torso turning lol.

Always find a way to use heavier weight.
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post Oct 11 2013, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(razorboy @ Oct 11 2013, 12:11 PM)
do enlighten me on why would your torso turn like you're reaching to the back of the car when you're db rowing? why would your torso turn at all during db rowing?

from my limited exercise knowledge, i don't think you're supposed to turn your torso at all db rowing.
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Cos too heavy form breaks down delts come into play. You raise your delts to complete the rom and thus, torso turn
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Oct 11 2013, 09:12 AM)
I understand that form > weight. However, if I can actually perform the exercise with 8-10 strict reps at 18kg. I up 2kgs to 20kg, I think that's slow enough sad.gif

I prolly need to change my mindset a lil. I'm always thinking about reps. (GOTTA HIT 12 GOTTA HIT 12 GOTTA HIT 12). I should of just go with how many times I can.

Thanks man.
In this regard, I'm actually unclear of this. Is BB BOR the same as one arm DB rows? (same as in the same muscle group worked)

This is my program. I usually do back first before moving to arms, I tried switching it up yesterday as I felt that I haven't progressed much on my arms. What do you think of the volume? Are some of them redundant? Thanks man..

Chin up 3x8reps
DB curls 2x12reps
Hammer curls 1x12reps
BB BOR 3x8reps
One arm DB row 2x12reps
CG lat pull down 2x12reps
BO rear delt fly 3x8reps
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Imo just keep to your normal routine and include biceps when you do your triceps? Mixing it up like that tbh feels like there isn't any priority. If it's back day you do back, catch my drift?

As for your pain, I think some mobility work is in order after you recover. Little bits of pain and soreness is to be expected realistically. After all your putting tension on your body day in and day out, no surprises if something breaks down

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