Maybe the voltage is too high? Or too low? Can you check? Maybe leave the battery in with the camera on for a while. Of course if you can try another (maybe not full battery) that would be even better. Good luck!

Actually the price is quite standard for the 10-24 on that forum, you can find cheaper ones too (lens cap missing, and there's one for 800 that has a nice scratch in the center of the lens...).

RM 700 for a Tamron 17-50 2.8 that has a small backfocus problem.

The Sigma 10-20 4-5 for RM 1000, without lens hood. Also tempting, but the Tamron is better...?

i vote for sigma.

Haha, any reasons? From reviews the Sigma seems to be lacking in sharpness and the focus isn't flat, as in if you focus on the center the rest of the image will be blurred out, etc. Also the Sigma is heavier and can only do 10-20... (I think I'd enjoy having it on as a traveling lens all the time, so the additional 4mm on the long end would be nice). And it is not as fast. Basically the 10-20 4-5.6 (or so) is a bit outdated.

Also... how important/useful is the lens hood on an ultra wide angle lens?

read somewhere (forgot already), they test both; turn out the sigma is more sharp (edge) at all length.

if i did read properly la....

Haha, yeah I did read something like that too, somewhere. The edge sharpness seems to be better on the Sigma, but the center sharpness...


http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/sigma_10-20_4-5p6_n15/4

http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/tamron...4_3p5-5p6_n15/4

I'm not worried about distortion, CA or anything like that, there's a Lightroom profile for that for both lenses. The superior focusing system... it's screw driven for the Pentax version (why...?).

http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax...troduction.html
http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/sigma-...troduction.html


If I really need sharpness I'll stop down anyway, so that's not an issue.

any k10 users here?

Hi to all Pentax-ian!
im currently a Fujifilm X100 user and would like to have a taste of pentax camera, i been using schools semi-pro DSLR (Nikonny D300s & D50) for covering school event, and would like to get one for my own use, especially covering portraits shots


was looking at K5 II series and would like to have some comment on choosing pentax over D7100 and 70D, assume i have not invested in any company yet...want to know how you guys think of pentax over other brands...currently none of my friend is pentax user yet and im little bit poison over pentax price to performance ratio...
cheers!

This post has been edited by lamjunrong: Jul 19 2013, 02:19 PM

did u get a chances to test k5ii b4??

Ok, so why I like Pentax is the size, weight and usability. Basically I don't like to carry heavy big ass cameras with me. The Pentax K-5 is (comparatively) light weight and small, yet feels like it can take a ton of beating. Also the buttons are where I expect them to be and feel good (Canon is a big offender in that area). The features that I mostly need are easily accessible, which is not the case for other cameras. I basically just needed to hold the K-5, D7100 and 60D in my hands to know I'd buy the Pentax (of course I would have anyway cause I already invested in Pentax, but it still is my favorite camera). Those Canikons would stay at home all the time, cause I don't want to carry them.

One drawback over Canikon is the lack of a cheap 50mm 1.8. While Pentax does have one, they charge like 2x as much for it. The 50mm 1.4 is ok in terms of pricing. On the other hand you do get plenty of wonderful fixed focal length lenses that are small, bright and high quality, which is nice for portrait work.

Now if you do love to shoot video the 70D is an interesting alternative. The autofocus system seems to work very well for video. Also there are nice profiles meant for color grading, you can use magic lantern at some point, you do get a button to immediately start recording and you do get full manual control. Those things are missing from Pentax (though you are able to create profiles yourself, but they affect your regular photos too). You do need to buy stabilized lenses, whereas with the K-5 the camera simply uses the built in stabilizer. Video files are much bigger with the K-5 as well.

Crazors: I only had only tried k5 only. Not until really deep as not really keen in Pentax yet. Would like to really hands on k5IIs on the picture sharpness.

Kadajawi: canny and nikky does not have cheap 50mm lens? Isn't the current 50mm f1.8D from Nikon cheap enough? Maybe I left out something. True is true, the camera grip and feel is very important as it makes me want to grab it again and go shoot for the next pic rather than review playback on the LCD screen.

I'm not really good in videography, but heard everyone say canny video system is very gooding. Nikky ones had turn me down when up to the AF during recording, hope Pentax excel on this. Seems like very hard to buy or try Pentax camera, is there someplace like showroom like nikky ones in Times Square?

So which Pentax u are using now together with what lens?

Ahem, I meant the other way round. A Canon may cost you RM 350, the equivalent (though hopefully better built) Pentax more like 900... at least those are the prices in Europe, haven't checked in Malaysia. And well, that is ridiculous.

Pentax doesn't do AF during recording To be honest I haven't seen a DSLR that does it to the degree where I find it acceptable. Perhaps Sony, but those are DSLT, and maybe the new 70D. I focus manually, and it works (the lower the DoF the better it works).

I used a Pentax *istDS (2005 camera) from 2008 to 2012, and then a Pentax K-5. My lenses are the kit lens that came with the *istDS (I believe that was their first 18-55, and it's pretty good. Newer ones except for the K-5 kit one seem to be downgraded versions of it, but with improved coating), a 50mm 1.8 by Centon (in pretty bad shape though, the aperture blades got stuck, I tried to fix it and ended up with a few extra screws...) and a Tokina SZ-X 80-200 (bought new in Singapore from a dealer who was desperate to clear stocks of lenses he couldn't sell He gave me a ridiculously good price, I would probably have spent the same on a second hand lens). I might be getting the 10-24 from Tamron, been longing for one like those for quite a while. Need to find it overseas within the next 1-2 weeks though, and currently none are available

Well, have you liked the K-5? Because the K-5 IIs is almost identical, except for the LCD and the AF system. As for sharpness you can surely find plenty of samples on the internet. Personally I hardly care about the internals of the camera, like the sensor. Yes, Pentax uses great ones made by Sony, and so does Nikon. Canon is a bit behind, but then again their 70D has a very exciting new sensor with the new AF system built in (a 40 MP sensor it seems that uses the excess in pixels to focus? Or something like that...?). But in the end all of these cameras can take great sharp photos. You can also use a Sony NEX, or a mFT camera from Panasonic or Olympus. They'll all be sharp (depending on the lens). So ergonomics and additional features are more important to me (I love the sensor shift feature, but if you focus on portraits it'll probably be rather useless to you).

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Jul 19 2013, 05:33 PM

sorry for misunderstood about the 50mm lens...actually which brand of camera to me is not really big deal, but i need for the best bang for bucks as me still student and "every cent counts"...well K30 is also on my list but seems like i will miss the top panel lcd and the "weight" of the camera...so K5 is like my choice lar, its pricing makes me think twice of D7100 and 70D or even second hand 5DMk2

might need a DSLR to cover portrait shoots, sharpness wise is actually not my real concern, as i not gonna print out larger than A3, so even a DSLR with 8MP will cover my job
the shooting experience and DSLR handling is quite important to me, let say you have a FF camera but the grip is a big no go for you, you might not even want to pick up the camera for the next time, but pentax K5 grip and feel is very my taste la

wanna ask are you going to the upcoming TT session at Taman Jaya? might want to get some 'teaching' from you guys

btw, i have tested the Tamron 10-24mm UWA lens last year at CEX 2012, the lens build quality is not up to my expectation as is very plasticky and zoom barrel feel less solid
it is the widest range of UWA i ever use, quite handy when when you want super wide and not so wide...softer edges and have to stop down to f5.6, in my Nikonny case..but should be no big deal with tripod, for the price you paying, i recommend you go for sigma 10-20 f3.5 constant aperture ones,(recommended by Steve Chong, which happy show me his 10-20mm work art, one word, impressive) which has better IQ and build quality
or just go crazy with distortion with sigma 8-16mm f4.5-5.6, a super slow lens....
cheers!

I'm not going, cause I'm near JB. But if there is TT somewhere around JB I might be interested.

Well, at the moment the only 10-24 available has a nice scratch in the center of the lens... like a 3x3mm area that is scratched. The price is accordingly quite a bit below what you'd normally pay (and might bargain further), but... yikes. I wouldn't mind with a tele lens, but a UWA... Also I have to shoot into several bright lights at the same time, with a heavily stopped down lens. Basically exactly the conditions that make you see such scratches.

Yeah, the range is what interests me, I need the 10mm, but if I can use it as a walk around lens that'd be pretty cool. I'm fine with shooting at high f-stops, well, I have to anyway. Usually everything is supposed to be in focus. When walking around I'm fine with not so sharp photos. The 10-20 f3.5 is really out of budget, and I just need something that is sharp at f11. Build quality is nice, but... well, I can do without. The 18-55 kit lens has served me well. And also the Tamron is simply even lighter than the Sigma 10-20 4.5-5.6 or so... that's nice.

Haha, distortion won't work for me. I sometimes shoot interiors (which hopefully will pay for the lens ).

Alternative could be a nodal point adapter (right now I have to trick around to get huge panoramas where lines match, takes a ton of time, with that adapter it would be much faster). More flexible as I can shoot even wider, but nowhere near as fun as a UWA lens.

One disadvantage could be if you're the only one shooting Pentax you can't borrow lenses from others. But to be honest I'd feel uncomfortable using anyone elses lens, too scared to damage it. I'm the one treating a rental car better than his own car... But if you like the K-5 grip and feel, and like the buttons etc., more so than the competition, then that'd be what I'd buy. While I smile when I see the D7100 or 70D price, I would still have picked the K-5 if I had no other lenses and the cameras were the same price.

Btw. when I bought my K-5 the alternative would have been the slightly cheaper K-30. I've tried that in the shop too, but somehow it just didn't feel as nice as the K-5 to me. (The demo unit was painted blue, so maybe that made it feel cheaper). Also the top panel LCD was a big point for me. My old Pentax had that, and I used it. I didn't want my new camera to feel like a downgrade. Since you are used to the big boys from Nikon I'd suggest you to stay in the same class.

Oh...didn't know u in jb....I in jb too...

This thread reminds me of the years when I am using Pentax P30T manual focus camera with 35-80mm and 100-300mm lens. Got somje great shot whit it. It is good to know there are some serious Pentax users. In those day I feel I am the only using Pentax. Nice job Pentax!



This post has been edited by khakilang: Jul 20 2013, 05:13 PM

Yes.
Pentax users not as many as canikon..and now ricoh wanna totally remove pentax name from their company...no body will remember us then...

The thing about pentax processing is the images produced more lively and real. The color is more real.
And comparing the body, k5 is really small and the grip is really fit in my hand. 1 hand shooting also possible and easy. For me at least. Hahaha..

Nikon...the images more bright. Like the brightness up 1 notch.
Canon..soft. but sharp.

Oh..all this. ..my 2 cent talk....hahahaha...

anyone using mx1? looks attractive to me

i was also targeting at K-30, since is same APSC format with K-5, so not much diff when come to image controlling and bokeh and DOF, but i certainly miss the top panel lcd if take K30. but i would thumbs up for K30 exterior quality even though its painted in blue or 'Star Wars Stormtrooper's White" its polycarbonate body is so much better than the Canny 1100D and Nikky D3200...

is true that cant actually borrow lens from others, but even the 18-55mm kit lens serve me well and is small and i just like its macro power...

btw, any idea i where can get the old K5 and around what price, is discontinued edi right? but seems like major camera shop didnt even sell pentax also...
cheers and happy shooting!

I am planning of jumping ship to Pentax. Can anyone recommend me a reliable reseller to trade in my Nikon D200 and all the accessories for a Pentax DSLR. The model will depend how much I can trade in and how much I need to top up. Kind of a tight budget. Thanks!

Both of u...which location??