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Peugeot 408 Owners/ Fans Thread, Motion & Emotion
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sctang408T
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Feb 19 2013, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Feb 19 2013, 10:53 AM) The bolded part is the one that looks scary, it come again on 120k km service interval. the italic part is what i suspect too. The specified L needed is 4.25 L yet everytime purchase and paid for 5L, what a waste. Think I will ask next time where does the extra 0.75 L goes to, and can we save it for next service. But I still find it hard to believe RM180++ /10k km only for new Honda Civic. My Honda experience so far (my Mrs. car) is they always charged higher than indicated in schedule, and higher than 180++ at 5k km interval (older version of Honda), so 180++ at 10k km is really AMAZING if true.  RM 180 for Honda Civic must be joking. My last 7 years of owning Honda City (lower than Civic), never ever my service go below RM 200. 5000 km service somemore.
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zweimmk
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Feb 20 2013, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(sctang408T @ Feb 19 2013, 11:56 PM) RM 180 for Honda Civic must be joking. My last 7 years of owning Honda City (lower than Civic), never ever my service go below RM 200. 5000 km service somemore. City yes. Also if your city was 07 batch, there was a 3 year free service promo. I don't remember if it was free labour or all inclusive, but that was cheap then. City goes on 5k service interval and still do so now, but not the new civic. Right now the price is around rm220 to rm230 1st 10k service for the new Civic and they send you a rm40 discount voucher if you complete a questionnaire that they mail you.
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EnergyAnalyst
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Feb 20 2013, 07:28 AM
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Feb 19 2013, 06:21 PM) They were selling last year stocks for 5k plus discount and this year models for about rm2300+ discounts. Haven't heard of free road tax or insurance, could be the alternative offer if you didn't want the discounts. Honda doesn't manufacture their own engine oil, don't think any automotive manufacturer does that. Their supplier is Idemitsu as far as I know. I was really hoping Contis could close the gap of servicing cost with the Japanese, then people will have one less reason to buy T&H. Jeez read harder... I said brand not produced. It is like GSK (Glaxosmithkline) producing Horlicks and Ribena. The latter 2 are brands. GSK is producer.
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EnergyAnalyst
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Feb 20 2013, 07:36 AM
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Feb 20 2013, 12:29 AM) City yes. Also if your city was 07 batch, there was a 3 year free service promo. I don't remember if it was free labour or all inclusive, but that was cheap then. City goes on 5k service interval and still do so now, but not the new civic. Right now the price is around rm220 to rm230 1st 10k service for the new Civic and they send you a rm40 discount voucher if you complete a questionnaire that they mail you. With the voucher, I think we can conclude the 1st 10k is RM180 for Civic. But it will go up for later service. Speaking of voucher. Need to check with my pug bro. I come across some other model owners using a voucher booklet at the Pug service centre. Anyone any idea how those things come from and how they work?
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lowpro
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Feb 20 2013, 08:01 AM
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Feb 20 2013, 07:36 AM) With the voucher, I think we can conclude the 1st 10k is RM180 for Civic. But it will go up for later service. Speaking of voucher. Need to check with my pug bro. I come across some other model owners using a voucher booklet at the Pug service centre. Anyone any idea how those things come from and how they work? those vouchers are most probably lion save vouchers. lion save is nasim's commercial name for a free service programme. if you bought your car with a free service programme, you would probably have the booklet. some 407 had partial discounting (lion save 70 i think), early 308 had it and the 207 early batch had 3 year free service and the final batches all came with 5 year free service. they all use the lion save booklet and vouchers are peeled off to redeem their free service.
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zweimmk
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Feb 20 2013, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Feb 20 2013, 07:28 AM) Jeez read harder... I said brand not produced. It is like GSK (Glaxosmithkline) producing Horlicks and Ribena. The latter 2 are brands. GSK is producer. Is that important? It's not like they sell Honda brand engine oil over the counter and people that buy them won't usually be end users, at least I don't think so. And people who run tracks will probably be buying race grade engine oil instead (e.g. Motul). Let's move on to more major issues rather than nitpick stuff that hardly matters at all. The important thing is for Contis to try to close the service cost gap. Be it NA or forced induction. Then there are less reasons to buy T&H&N and we get better specification cars because of increased competition. Winner: consumer
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sctang408T
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Feb 20 2013, 08:44 AM
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I think should consider hybrid which more worth it then. Because the car we bought now about 100% tax (compare here and langkawi). But hybrid car just a few thousands different. So when think about it, you are paying another 100% to the government, actually the car worth half you paid. But for hybrid you paid for about fully on the car value.
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EnergyAnalyst
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Feb 20 2013, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Feb 20 2013, 08:12 AM) Is that important? It's not like they sell Honda brand engine oil over the counter and people that buy them won't usually be end users, at least I don't think so. And people who run tracks will probably be buying race grade engine oil instead (e.g. Motul). Let's move on to more major issues rather than nitpick stuff that hardly matters at all. The important thing is for Contis to try to close the service cost gap. Be it NA or forced induction. Then there are less reasons to buy T&H&N and we get better specification cars because of increased competition. Winner: consumer Well. You brought it up .....just do me a favour read harder. Kay? I believe Honda having it branded Honda, a more familiar brand create pychological effect to Honda's supporter else Honda would not call it their genuine HONDA fully synthetic Engine oil in their website, in the packaging, and YES sell it over their service centres as Honda's engine oil, etc. and I suspect ( emphasise the word suspect) it was produced for Honda to honda's spec, yes /no?
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EnergyAnalyst
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Feb 20 2013, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Feb 20 2013, 08:01 AM) those vouchers are most probably lion save vouchers. lion save is nasim's commercial name for a free service programme. if you bought your car with a free service programme, you would probably have the booklet. some 407 had partial discounting (lion save 70 i think), early 308 had it and the 207 early batch had 3 year free service and the final batches all came with 5 year free service. they all use the lion save booklet and vouchers are peeled off to redeem their free service. You can always count on lowpro on this sort of thing. Great stuff , just one more question, how to get one?
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lowpro
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Feb 20 2013, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Feb 20 2013, 09:39 AM) You can always count on lowpro on this sort of thing. Great stuff , just one more question, how to get one? if you bought your car with a free servicing plan, the book should be given to you within a week of you getting your car (i'm not 100% sure here though). but, you can only get it if your car was sold together with the free service package. e.g. all 207 sold got 5-years free servicing. This post has been edited by lowpro: Feb 20 2013, 10:00 AM
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rinnyrinny
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Feb 20 2013, 10:04 AM
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i wonder any pug owner here having the same problem like my car do? the wiper can't wipe smooth, i have sent to SC (twice) but still the same after service i suspect SC not even check it or didn't bother this issue. if the wiper go smooth the water mark line should be in nice straight curve. but mine can see a lot of "v" or "W" after wiper on This post has been edited by rinnyrinny: Feb 20 2013, 10:05 AM
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EnergyAnalyst
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Feb 20 2013, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(sctang408T @ Feb 20 2013, 08:44 AM) I think should consider hybrid which more worth it then. Because the car we bought now about 100% tax (compare here and langkawi). But hybrid car just a few thousands different. So when think about it, you are paying another 100% to the government, actually the car worth half you paid. But for hybrid you paid for about fully on the car value. Hi bro For the sake of fuel saving and environmental concern aka lower emission, I would love to see hybrid models from conti but here in Msia there is almost next to none for conti. For japs yes, aplenty. VW offers hybrid version of Toureg. But just one model. The last any hybrid was mentioned by Peugeot was Nasim said only studying the possibility of bringing in 3008 HYbrid4 in April 2011, but no news since then. Hell, we are only just seeing Turbodiesel for 508 GT and 508 SW GT finally here in Malaysia since last year June. So hybrid is so ruled by the japs here. If u r saying Civic Hybrid.... Hmmm. Yes may becfor some but not my cup of tea. I still like Conti best particularly Pug or Citroen.
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zweimmk
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Feb 20 2013, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Feb 20 2013, 09:37 AM) Well. You brought it up .....just do me a favour read harder. Kay? I believe Honda having it branded Honda, a more familiar brand create pychological effect to Honda's supporter else Honda would not call it their genuine HONDA fully synthetic Engine oil in their website, in the packaging, and YES sell it over their service centres as Honda's engine oil, etc. and I suspect ( emphasise the word suspect) it was produced for Honda to honda's spec, yes /no? Moving on. Have you thought about the part costs for your PUG after warranty ends and where to service you car after that or do you not intend to keep the car longer than 4 or 5 years? Does Nasim allow owners to bring their own engine oil to the service center? Are there any good reliable outside workshop? Any clues? This post has been edited by zweimmk: Feb 20 2013, 10:11 AM
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EnergyAnalyst
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Feb 20 2013, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Feb 20 2013, 09:52 AM) if you bought your car with a free servicing plan, the book should be given to you within a week of you getting your car (i'm not 100% sure here though). but, you can only get it if your car was sold together with the free service package. e.g. all 207 sold got 5-years free servicing. None was offered when I bought my 408. If can't get one AFTER sales then, sounds like a dead end, sigh.....
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zweimmk
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Feb 20 2013, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Feb 20 2013, 10:06 AM) Hi bro For the sake of fuel saving and environmental concern aka lower emission, I would love to see hybrid models from conti but here in Msia there is almost next to none for conti. For japs yes, aplenty. VW offers hybrid version of Toureg. But just one model. The last any hybrid was mentioned by Peugeot was Nasim said only studying the possibility of bringing in 3008 HYbrid4 in April 2011, but no news since then. Hell, we are only just seeing Turbodiesel for 508 GT and 508 SW GT finally here in Malaysia since last year June. So hybrid is so ruled by the japs here. If u r saying Civic Hybrid.... Hmmm. Yes may becfor some but not my cup of tea. I still like Conti best particularly Pug or Citroen. There's that new Audi A6 hybrid, rumor has it that it falls in the rm288k range excluding insurance. Then there is the BMW active 3&5 which falls under the forget about it price category.
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EnergyAnalyst
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Feb 20 2013, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Feb 20 2013, 10:06 AM) Moving on. Have you thought about the part costs for your PUG warranty ends and where to service you car after that or do you not intend to keep the car longer than 4 or 5 years? Does Nasim allow owners to bring their own engine oil to the service center? Are there any good reliable outside workshop? Any clues? I am keeping my options open in whether owning it for 5 years or keep it for as long as the lion heart is still beating strong. The short to mid term future is kind if in a haze so I will take one day at a time. As far as brought own oil, have to admit I have not thought about that and judging from how ill informed the service agent has been, I don't think I can get an affirmative answer easily. I can anticipate and imagine a blank face even now. I will ask next with the service manager , thanks for pointing it out as an alternative. I think as far as outside workshop, There were quite a few mentioned now and then in other pug models thread here at lowyat.net. Why ? You want to introduce yours? Speaking of which how VW's take on this matter?
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zweimmk
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Feb 20 2013, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Feb 20 2013, 10:20 AM) I am keeping my options open in whether owning it for 5 years or keep it for as long as the lion heart is still beating strong. The short to mid term future is kind if in a haze so I will take one day at a time. As far as brought own oil, have to admit I have not thought about that and judging from how ill informed the service agent has been, I don't think I can get an affirmative answer easily. I can anticipate and imagine a blank face even now. I will ask next with the service manager , thanks for pointing it out as an alternative. I think as far as outside workshop, There were quite a few mentioned now and then in other pug models thread here at lowyat.net. Why ? You want to introduce yours? Speaking of which how VW's take on this matter? Interestingly, Audi actually allows owners to bring their own engine oil. But they are distributed by Euromobil rather than handled by VWM. VW allows you to use your own engine oil to top up the oil levels for tsi engine but it has to be an engine oil in their approved oil list. During service intervals, you have to use the engine oil provided by the service center, this is true for the TTDI branch, I haven't checked the other branches to see if it is also true for them as well.
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EnergyAnalyst
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Feb 20 2013, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Feb 20 2013, 11:11 AM) Interestingly, Audi actually allows owners to bring their own engine oil. But they are distributed by Euromobil rather than handled by VWM. VW allows you to use your own engine oil to top up the oil levels for tsi engine but it has to be an engine oil in their approved oil list. During service intervals, you have to use the engine oil provided by the service center, this is true for the TTDI branch, I haven't checked the other branches to see if it is also true for them as well. Great stuff, approved oil list for top up only still sounds better than not allowed anything at all. Good to know, can attempt to ask to get the same treatment from Pegeot Blue Boxes. even top up 0.25L a time will still save some dough
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EnergyAnalyst
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Feb 20 2013, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(rinnyrinny @ Feb 20 2013, 10:04 AM) i wonder any pug owner here having the same problem like my car do? the wiper can't wipe smooth, i have sent to SC (twice) but still the same after service i suspect SC not even check it or didn't bother this issue. if the wiper go smooth the water mark line should be in nice straight curve. but mine can see a lot of "v" or "W" after wiper on Never notice really but since the wipers swings open like spread eagle instead of left right left right, can it be the reason why it form V or W as its trail of water mark line?
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