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zweimmk
post Mar 6 2013, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 6 2013, 09:46 AM)
My car lah my 408 NA lah, like that  Alanis Morrisett's song, "Isn't it ironic?!"
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Not a position I like to be in. Sincerely hope everything goes well for you. On the bright side, you can screw them nicely into giving you a discount voucher for the next service. And if it's serious, make sure they damn well give you a courtesy car for your troubles.
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post Mar 6 2013, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(eusened @ Mar 6 2013, 10:51 AM)
Sorry to hear this. Pray that nothing big and it get fix asap. take care.

By the way, my old car loan is not settled and the used car fella want to take my car grant. Given instruction to the bank, only release the grant after settlement of the loan is paid. Now i am also on a hot plate. What if the fella steal my old car and i still need to pay bank. Cant afford to pay both car every month. sad.gif Any sifu can help?  cry.gif
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It's easy la, when you trade in your old car, they will give you a cheque for the value of your car. You tell them to settle it with your bank directly and bank will deal with them directly. If you still have any money left after settling your loan, tell your dealer to either issue the balance to you or directly to the showroom as downpayment for your new car.


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post Mar 6 2013, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(eusened @ Mar 6 2013, 11:09 AM)
The problem is when I trade in the car and get the new Pug, i only sign forms and change car. Didn't know that this fella will be like that. Tried to contact the SA, but not answering.
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Keep calling. When I trade in my old car, the procedure was really easy. I had them deal with the bank directly and then had the dealer handover the balance to the showroom as down payment.

I don't remember if I signed the forms before or after they dealt with the bank. Either way, they can't take your car without your car keys and the bank won't release the geran without full payment. So even if you sign a bunch of forms before they deal with the bank, they can't take your car legally.

So don't worry about it so much. Just tell the dealer to deal with the bank direct and then bank in the balance either directly to your account or to the showroom. Only handover your keys once you see the money in your account or confirmation from your SA that they received the downpayment.
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Mar 6 2013, 11:40 AM)
Since you have not traded in your car,but sold it to a used car dealer,you have to be a bit careful. I don't trust used car dealers,so would demand for a cheque upon surrender of the car to them. Prefer to hand the cheque personally to the bank.

An unscrupulous second hand dealer has plenty of tricks up his sleeves.

I'm not saying this is the best way,but that's just me!
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They don't pay, they can't get geran from the bank. So once they pay, your car loan also settled and they can also get the geran. Whatever balance, just have them issue the cheque to the showroom. The SA will confirm when the money goes through, then hand over the car. It doesn't get any safer than that already.
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post Mar 6 2013, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(eusened @ Mar 6 2013, 11:56 AM)
No, I actually trade in my Myvi and get 408. The balance from Myvi will be part of my downpayment for 408.

Now i am actually driving the 408 already, but the old loan is not settled. Just called the SA (from Nasim) and asked him about this. He says the payment is not due yet, so they are not going to pay 1st. He mentioned the 2nd car dealer (his friend) need the geran for inspection.
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Wow, can ah like that? They allow you to get the new car before you even make any payment? You win liao man.

Did they take your Myvi already or not? If they haven't taken your car yet, at least you are still safe. If they did take your car... then all i can say is good luck already. If that guy not honest, then you going to have a lot of trouble getting it back.
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post Mar 6 2013, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 6 2013, 12:14 PM)
(side story: just as i was waiting near the Honda Showroom, my peugeot Sales Agent greeted me Hello, I was surpised and more surpised that now e wears Honda Uniform, He told me he just left CSL Peugeot and joined Honda Jln Imbi since 1st March, much a freaking small world,

I asked him why he left Peugeot, he said he has disagreement with the sales commission/incentive that changes often. AND , confess Peugeot/Nasim is not agressive enought in giving goodies,etc.

He asked me to wait at Honda showroom, and i took his invite while checking out the new CRV with him telling a bit more a bout it with brochure handed to me.

When tow truck came, he even offer to drive away his colleague car to make the tow truck able to load up my car.

He then offered to give me give me a lift back to my office since he is heading to a roadshow.

I took his offer. so here I am back in the office
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Your SA is good la. That kind of service where to get man? Go Audi or BMW or Merc to buy their cars also might not get that kind of treatment man.

Honda damn lucky to get him, sure lots of sales one with that sort of customer service.
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post Mar 6 2013, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(eusened @ Mar 6 2013, 01:17 PM)
That is why I instructed my bank not to release the geran until the settlement is done.
They took my car.... Now I am damn worry.
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Ok, if like this. They have your car, but not your geran yet. Push your SA to get him to talk to the dealer. Other than that, that's not much else he can do. Best you can do now is call up the 2nd hand car dealer yourself and push him. But as long as he don't pay up the car settlement, you legally must still pay your installment for the Myvi or you will kena blacklist. At the same time, if you have already gotten the bank loan approval etc for your new car, you are also legally obligated to pay for that installment as well. Did you sign any bank loan agreement for the new car?

Also, surely you must have paid some booking fee right? Does it come up to 10% of the overall car purchasing price?

Need more info before I can see what is going on.
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post Mar 6 2013, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(eusened @ Mar 6 2013, 02:10 PM)
I will for sure pay my new car loan, but the only problem is the Myvi's car loan. Cant afford to pay both side. GG.
I didnt pay anything to the SA, because with the RM8000 cash rebate + my trade in (minus of current loan, will have 4.8k), so that is the down payment for the car.
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You haven't answered me yet

1. Have you signed the new bank loan agreement yet?
2. Is there a minimum booking fee you need to put? How much did you pay?
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post Mar 6 2013, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(eusened @ Mar 6 2013, 02:24 PM)
I have signed on the new bank loan.
I didnt pay any booking fees. He pay on behalf on me and minus it off from my NCD.
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NCD basically just reduces the insurance cost.

Basically you now have no choice but to pay off 2 installments until the dealer settles off your car. Otherwise, one of the bank will blacklist you and then you'd have a lot of problems to deal with. You have to keep calling him to push him in doing that. I don't think it looks very good at the moment, particularly if the dealer decides to drag and delay selling off your car.

Next time be more careful. Only give him your keys when money has changed hands.


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post Mar 6 2013, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 6 2013, 06:27 PM)
Car needed to spend a night at the SC, SA said need to test further to ensure no failure, will mostly only able to get the car back tomorrow
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Make sure they have someone to pick you up to get your car. And demand that discount voucher for all your troubles. That's really the least they can do
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post Mar 7 2013, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(eusened @ Mar 6 2013, 10:23 PM)
That is the 1st thing I will do tomorrow morning. Since they have already taken the car to inspect.
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Skyjack is right. Worse still if he delays on purpose because you would have had to pay a couple more installments and that means having to pay less to settle the car and profiting from the balance.

Hopefully, we are wrong about your dealer. Good luck today.
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post Mar 7 2013, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 7 2013, 11:06 AM)
Car bought end Sep 2012 (just over 5 months), mileage just over 10,000 km (service 10k km just 3 weeks back), so how can they missed it in the 1ok km service if the bat health was weak.

Need to take cab to collect car (no complimentary pick up from office to SC)

Yours also NA, I would not expect this to happen to NA, as battery drainage /lifespan should hold better compare to Turbo

The Serv Manager said, what is replaced is a newer version better battery, I will see it to believe it when I am there to collect my car after lunch
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It's not an unusual problem, even my friend's 3008 encountered the same issue as you. Glenmarie SC gave him RM80 discount voucher for his troubles, which isn't bad at all. Where did you get your car fixed? Perhaps the next time you should go Glenmarie instead, better discounts.
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post Mar 7 2013, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(eusened @ Mar 7 2013, 11:31 AM)
Crap, I called my SA and I request to settle my car loan now, then he say he will pay when the due date comes. Then I warn him that the due date is 10th every month and I do not want to pay both sides. Then he say dont worry, he will pay. Grrrrr. I really want to go to bash this fella
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Unfortunately, you are at his mercy right now. And there's really nothing you can do about it short of hoping that he'll honor his promise. We'll find out more after the 10th. Good luck and keep us updated.
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post Mar 7 2013, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(78Lions @ Mar 7 2013, 02:50 PM)
Make sure you didn't or dont sign any release form for your old car yet until it settles. Btw If you still have your old car why not try other 2nd car dealers? Anyway 10th is soon... Just don't understand why the delays cause the faster he settle, more discount from bank. But good luck !
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He already did and no longer have his old car, that's why he's now at the 2nd hand dealer's mercy. The longer the delay, the more the dealer stand to profit.
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post Mar 7 2013, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 7 2013, 03:49 PM)
I asked what is the original battery, is it Yokohama? they say no it is a Peugeot ori battery, a brand called FIAM

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Pretty much what I suspected. They use those original batteries from France. I think it's the weather that's killing the battery.
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post Mar 7 2013, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 7 2013, 05:49 PM)
Thinking back hard if any sign of weak bat was showing, i can only think of 2 occasions of small oddities

There was  1 time the car did not unlock when i press the unlock button, but I thought it was just me pointing wrong way, that happen may be a week or two back

2nd time , when i start the car without pressing the accelerator, it did not start, but doing it again shortly, it started like normal, that happened few days before my car broke down

But I could be paranoid now because things behave pretty normal aside those 2 occasions, to be safe may be watch out for these tell tell signs?

Also do what SKYjack suggest, run your car for a 1 hour straight trip on highways, but then again I was driving up to Ipoh to n fo on 1st march, so who knows ?
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There isn't any sure way you can tell, short of buying a voltage stabilizer with a readout display.

As long as you run your car everyday, the battery should charge itself.

Chalk it up to bad luck la. As long as you have warranty covering your car issues, then it should be fine. No point worrying about something that you can't prevent.
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post Mar 8 2013, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Mar 7 2013, 11:25 PM)
Every car has it's own issue,even Jap's with their high regard for reliability.Don't let this battery issue get you down. It's a small issue,I still think it's a fantastic car. It's already identified this French battery seems to have short life in our weather.  Keep up the high spirits and enjoy your Lion on your trip home tongue.gif
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I wouldn't call it a small issue. How often do people actually use CD these days? Even my primary mode of entertainment is from my USB drive for music. Imagine, you can't use that anymore to listen to your favorite tunes while on the go. Zzzzz...

Btw, while I'm not an electrical engineer. How much power can charging your phone drain the car battery? My special charger in my car draws 2A. Doesn't sound logical recharging your phone while on the go would actually drain the car battery that quickly.

@EnergyAnalyst - I assume you use this moniker because you are involved in the power or energy business and have to deal with watts, kW, ampere calculation in some way or some capacity. Can you calculate how long it would take a battery to drain with the technical information given below, knowing that charging an iphone uses about 2 amps?

http://www.yokohama.my/V2/index.php?option...&id=33&Itemid=4


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post Mar 8 2013, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 8 2013, 09:48 AM)
Hahaha, while energy is my biz, I am analyzing and advising more of macro level energy procurement strategy rather than this kind of micro level stuff, What you have suggsted there is like asking your CFO to check calculation of a telephone bill call charges accuracy.

Wrong skillsets match (and Overqualified , should I say) but also not interested.
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Erm okay.... then I suppose we would not know if the USB power drain is indeed the cause of the premature battery failure or something else being the cause of it.
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post Mar 12 2013, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(eusened @ Mar 12 2013, 03:50 PM)
yup. the injury marks the spare tyre. LOL.
I agree tongue.gif
Thanks for the information. I will create a ban list or use valet service. LOLOLOL
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Btw, did your dealer pay your installment for the myvi or settle the loan yet? It's been 2 days since the 10th. At the very least, he should at least email/fax you the bank in slip for your old car installment if he hadn't made the settlement yet.
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post Mar 19 2013, 01:47 PM

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Is there an in house Peugeot mod or aftermarket mod specialist like:

Eg.
Mercedes - brabus/kleeman. In house: AMG

BMW - AC Scnitzer. In house: M

Audi/VW - APR, Carecature. In house: ABT

Toyota/Lexus - In house: TRD/F

Honda - HKS, Spoon. In house: Mugen/modulo

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