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 Peugeot 408 Owners/ Fans Thread, Motion & Emotion

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post Mar 27 2013, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(ahui @ Mar 27 2013, 08:30 AM)
thanks zweimmk for translate
base on the article the recalled at 2011 sep, that means they already solved the problem?
but my car even worse, some more need towed back....
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Actually both your articles didn't say if the problem was solved completely. For some owners, it was a very straight-forward fix, for others, more work had to be done.

The recall to update the engine management software supposedly fixes the problem.
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post Mar 27 2013, 10:34 AM

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ahui, I did a quick search.

Apparently this problem still exists for the 408NA as there are still complaints about it till this day. There are less frequency for it so the update must have at least solved the bulk of the conditions associated with the problem.

http://www.qp110.com/chezhutousu/tuosu-che...%B1%EA%D6%C2408

Seems like the Chinese 408 suffers from a greater degree of problems than the ones here. But then again, they also have a much greater sales volume compared to Malaysia.

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post Mar 27 2013, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(wongryan @ Mar 27 2013, 10:48 AM)
Was looking forward to commit to a 2.0NA. Nw hv to think twuce. Will monitor this thread.
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The 408THP is still a good choice if your budget allows for it.
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post Mar 28 2013, 02:51 AM

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QUOTE(sctang408T @ Mar 27 2013, 11:01 PM)
Taxi like to bully, so last Saturday when this taxi try to force into my lane, I don't give a damn and so we collide. Now waiting for result from police. From the clashes, the taxi dent at the corner front bumper and mine dent from the side two doors to the end at the back bumper. So clearly can see who is wrong.
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Worth it? Had you given way, your car won't meet any accident and you would have saved yourself a lot of trouble from ever needing to report police in the first place. There is no winner at the end of the day, only a lot of unnecessary work and problem.
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post Mar 28 2013, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(shihian @ Mar 28 2013, 11:03 AM)
sometimes they deserve a lesson..cutting into lanes without consideration of others causing us to do sudden brakes..stopping for passengers when and where they like...but using ur new car to teach them that lesson...hahaha i salute u...
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No he didn't, he used his wife's 5yo swift to do it.
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post Mar 28 2013, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(danishfx @ Mar 28 2013, 05:41 PM)
After the warranty period..i will looking the cheap parts replacement..as no point to use the money for something that we can source outside even we afford it..like the Intake Manifold..i rather spend the money to get Engineering company customise 1 for me..If the ECU got Problem and cost me more then 5k..i rather install aftermarket standalone ECU.. biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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You should ask yourself how likely are you to even keep this car for more than 5 years? Think about it only if you're likely to keep it for more than 5 years, otherwise, why bother?
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post Mar 29 2013, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Mar 29 2013, 10:47 AM)
That was a wrong question. People who buy Pugs buy with the intent of keeping it for a long while. We all bought this car for what it is and not bothered about RV. We all know RV on Pugs are poor and is also the reason we'll keep for some time. I can't see myself ever driving a Jap box. Sure it's great RV,but boring overpriced,underspec and underpowered!

I too am looking at keeping this car beyond 5 years. By which time we would have sourced for independent specialist workshops and getting spares at better prices than from SCs. Take for example 6spd AT fluid. Right now this item is costly mainly due to it being shipped from Japan to France to Malaysia. Cost can certainly drop if direct shipped to Malaysia. This just one example,I'm sure there's a lot more.  As we see more and more Pugs, I'm sure we'll see more workshops. This gives the owners a better choice and the intention to hold on to our beloved Pug longer.

So this time my friend,you got it completely wrong!
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You know Peugeot than I do so I'll take your word for it. But I feel the newer generation of car buyers don't keep their cars as long as the older generation does. So it's not surprisingly if they move on after 3 or 4 years.
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post Mar 29 2013, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Mar 29 2013, 11:02 AM)
SKYjack , that is equivalent of calling you an old fart. hahaha, sorry can't resist this one
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Hahaha. But joking aside, it's also a trend that I'm seeing these days - people really don't keep their cars as long as they used to. A lot of the younger generation of buyers pretty much take long loans and change their cars every 3 or 4 years.
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post Mar 29 2013, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(toughgshock @ Mar 29 2013, 03:34 PM)
Any idea which website please? I am going to test drive this weekend for the turbo. Worry about maintenance...and 2nd price won't be so strong too. But that is the cost of having a luxurious car.
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As a comparison, the prices for Peugeot servicing is considered reasonable for a continental brand. VW actually cost quite a bit more even though they use 15k intervals. The overall difference isn't too great between the 2 in the long run, but I would say Peugeot is still considered slightly cheaper to maintain.
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post Apr 1 2013, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(Pug7980 @ Apr 1 2013, 06:02 AM)
Termibait, so far the steering problem i read from your report.
This is bad aftet reading imifun posting. Ate we expected to experience all these trouble when we own a pug. Having 2nd thoughts now as i am planning to pay for my downpayment today. If like this must got a spare car la in case my ride need to overnight at sc. really i m having 2nd thoughts.
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No such thing as a perfect car. But if you plan on owning continentals, then you must be prepared to deal with whatever problems that's associated with owning one. The problems highlighted so far are still considered isolated cases, that means the chances of you ending up with a problematic car is close to zero. I wouldn't worry too much about it, but if peace of mind is what you are after instead of worrying day in and out about reliability, then I suggest you go Japanese instead.
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post Apr 1 2013, 11:30 AM

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Hey, going to the SC twice a year is considered very normal for standard service. Even 3 times would be nothing out of the ordinary.

As long as you don't end up going to the SC every other month because of some car failure, or have to be carless for 5 weeks for at least twice a year. Nobody should trade in their contis for anything else. Otherwise, if that's the kind of problem you are facing, then you really should move on.
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QUOTE(sctang408T @ Apr 2 2013, 06:15 AM)
Plan to buy Panerai PAM 177, anyone here got good connection of getting good discount ?
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Don't think you can get any these days, the price is very strictly controlled now. The last time I got 10% discount for my PAM90 was because I knew the distributor personally, and that was 2 years back. You want to buy it cheaper, get 2nd hand is the only way now. That's what most people do anyways.
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post Apr 4 2013, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(matsukatsu @ Apr 4 2013, 08:03 AM)
Sctang408T, I feel u too! Anyway 408 was really meant for China market originaly rite? Before I bought, I noticed that too and sifus here also mention China & Russia being main production hub and available in websites. I bought anyway cause no big deal "made in China" cars as ...car looks and feels fantastic lah..as long Peugout..hehe...anyhow on anothr note VW Polo Sedan made  in India loo..
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408 was designed and aimed at slightly higher income group whereas the Polo Sedan (Vento) was developed specifically for the Indian market as a cheap entry level econobox. VW Malaysia, in all its infinite wisdom, decide to bring this car in and price it at a ridiculous level. Obviously their strategy for this car backfired, serves them right too.
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post Apr 4 2013, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(sleepy @ Apr 4 2013, 03:02 PM)
My 508 sudah problem. Haha

- Steering noise, something like kluk kluk sound when turning.
- Suspension squeeks.
- Intermittent directional headlamp malfunction warning.
- Door handle sensor rosak.
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That's a lot of problems rclxub.gif
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post Apr 4 2013, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Apr 4 2013, 03:19 PM)
what is mileage like?  doh.gif
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I think his car isn't much older than mine? I know bought his car at least a few months before I bought mine. Different marque though.
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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Apr 4 2013, 03:26 PM)
pure bad luck?  shakehead.gif
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No idea. You have to ask him what he thinks
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QUOTE(BikerVoodoo @ Apr 8 2013, 09:43 AM)
Thanks for the info SKYjack. The 408 Turbo looks like it has the most capable engine in the Peugeot line-up. How about acceleration and torque? Can it beat a Civic 2.0L and/or an Altis 2.0V?
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Both cars won't have the torque to beat the 408T. In real life, the Civic and Altis would probably output around 155Nm to 165nm of torque, while the 408THP would probably output 205Nm to 215Nm. On top of that the 408THP has a better range compared to the Japanese NA because of the turbocharger.

But the previous generation Civic 2.0L supposedly is still capable of 0 to 100 times in full automatic D mode in 9.9s. Respectable but still not capable enough in topping the 408THP.

The Altis 2.0V does it around 10.xs, which is even worse than the Civic.

The Civic R would be a different story altogether but it also sits in a different price range.


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post Apr 8 2013, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(jfcheong @ Apr 8 2013, 11:08 AM)
Engine still the same TSI.
1.4L turbocharged.
HP reduced to 140 from 160
Torque improved to 250 from 240
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I tested it as well along with another forummer. It's a VERY capable car. The refinement is there too, but it's still a bit too pricey :/
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QUOTE(eusened @ Apr 8 2013, 01:18 PM)
I called the bank, Naism branch manager, SA (currently resigned) as well as the second hand car dealer.

Bank: Your HP loan is not settle.
Nasim branch manager: To trade in the car, the deal is customer with the SA, nothing link to Nasim or Peugeot.
SA: The 2nd hand dealer said not yet pass puspakom and they will need for that to settle my loan.
2nd hand car dealer: Puspakom passed last week and submitted document to bank to settle the loan. Call me back at 2pm.

I am totally hopeless with these and I told the branch manager that I will make a police report if Nasim / Peugeot is not taking responsibility for this. The branch manager claim that I should settle with the SA, not Nasim. I asked her back:" Wasn't the SA representing Nasim when he sell me the car and do the trade in deal with me?" She declined. She says Nasim only sell car, other than that, is not their problem.

I told her that I will make a police report and ask the police to go to her branch to settle the case. She told me that never mentioned Nasim or Peugoet. I said I dont care, because I made the deal there.
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Well, Nasim PJ has no legal obligation or responsibility at all in the whole matter. It's between you and the used car salesman. You can lodge a police report but my advise is that you talk to the used car sales first before you escalate the matter.

Regardless, you need to settle your existing car loan or outstanding installment. That means even if you have to eat grass for the next few months also you better pay off your installments or you will get blacklisted.

You should ask @EnergyAnalyst for advise, he used to work in the banking sector and I think his wife is still in the banking sector. If anything, he's the person to ask on what you can do for your old car loan.
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QUOTE(eusened @ Apr 8 2013, 03:36 PM)
But I trade in the car with the Peugeot SA. I didnt sell my old car my way, but I trade it in.

I have called the 2nd hand car dealer, and he promised to call me back at 2pm today, but yet to answer any call from him.

I will call him now and want to make sure should I escalate this matter.
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The Peugeot SA resign already. And I'm pretty sure he didn't sign anything other than to release your current car (408). That is a separate business deal between you and Peugeot to buy a new car.

Your old car is handled by the 2nd hand dealer. Put it this way, the SA is just a middle man to broker the deal, if he didn't sign anything regarding your old car, you basically has got nothing on him.

If I were you, I'd go look for the 2nd hand dealer directly myself.

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