100% battery konk issue, confirmed. I cannot understand why Nasim has no sense to just do away the old battery in stocks, and replace with new one when the car leaves Gurun assembly line. Doing this--- sending toll truck every where FOC to consumer to change battery is not very smart way of managing cost. What more when it gives them the worse image on already bad one

improvement ? you mean FC? it will come, gives it a few days

wow light up for light_up, so your car now has a new pair of lights? How much and where to do?

BOTH if you read back this thread way back....

http://europe.autonews.com/article/2013092...noreUserAgent=1

How come we don't get free wines and perfume too? :-)

this is super nice

Global battery brand? I expect my Delkor to live up to one year and +, which is considered normal, by then no warranty claim can be made on battery already

congrats. Mind telling what other cars you were test-driving before settle on 408 and why?

wait the call are from Peugeot? or could it be JD power?

it happened to me once also during washing the car but i suffered minir cuts on three fingers but can stop the bleeding with just plaster, guess i was lucky the cut was not so deep

http://paultan.org/2013/10/08/peugeot-408-...ckage-teachers/

our 408 will literally becomes teacher's pet

This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Oct 9 2013, 09:09 AM

son't panic
my 2.0 was an oil gusher before 10,000 km service. after that, it was major improvement

luckily we are not talking about RV

May be it is Ford Sync that has sucked out all the juices. There has bee tonnes of complaint on that system. May be they should just name it ford Stink or Ford sink instead

This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Oct 14 2013, 06:01 AM

Focus? the car handling is good for a NA. But i don't like their Electric Motor Driven Power Steering (EPAS) system, 408 T's electro-hydraulic steering feels much more meaty and confident at high speeds. Heck even 408 NA pure hydraulic steering is more my cup of tea, i don't know why i just like thing a bit old fashioned i guess

I think in short Ford handling is overrated

This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Oct 14 2013, 10:12 AM

Hi all,

read this yesterday...

sharing in case you may want to know


http://europe.autonews.com/article/2013101...noreUserAgent=1

Imagine a PSA that Peugeot family no longer control

Dongfeng, French gov't to take stakes in PSA, report says
October 12, 2013 6:00 AM

PARIS (Reuters) -- PSA/Peugeot-Citroen is preparing a 3 billion euro ($4.1 billion) capital increase in which Chinese partner Dongfeng and the French government would take matching stakes in the carmaker, people with knowledge of the matter said.

A French delegation of executives, government officials and bankers is heading to China for talks to prepare an outline for a deal that could be signed within weeks, three sources said on Friday. They asked not to be identified because the negotiations are confidential.

Under the draft agreement, which PSA hopes to conclude this year, state-owned Dongfeng Motor and the French government would each contribute 1.5 billion euros and acquire 20 to 30 percent of the carmaker, the people said.

The Peugeot family would lose control of the company because the cash injection would dilute its 25.4 percent stake and 38.1 percent in voting rights.

The capital increase would be accompanied by an expansion of DPCA, the PSA-Dongfeng joint venture in China, adding more PSA vehicles and technology to target other markets in the region, the sources said.

Part of the new capital would be raised through a rights issue in which the Peugeot family would sell new stock to the French government, the sources said. The remainder would be raised in a reserved capital increase.

GM stake

The 3 billion euro cash injection would amount to 68 percent of the French carmaker's 4.39 billion euro market value. It would be worth about 40 percent of the new share capital and also dilute the 7 percent stake held by General Motors Co.

PSA, which is among the worst casualties of a six-year European car sales slump, is seeking more cooperation with Dongfeng or another automaker as it struggles to cut costs and losses that have threatened its survival.

"Peugeot confirms it is studying new industrial and commercial projects with different partners, as well as the financing to accompany them," a company spokesman said, declining to elaborate. "None of these plans have yet reached an advanced stage."

The French finance ministry declined to comment. Dongfeng officials were not immediately available out of office hours.

PSA is slashing jobs and plant capacity. The French automaker entered an alliance with GM last year and sold a stake to GM in a 1 billion euro capital increase.

The Peugeot family indicated it was ready to give up control as the company carried out initial soundings on a Dongfeng tie-up, while attempting to revive talks on a deeper alliance with GM.

The future of that pairing could be affected by Dongfeng's level of influence over PSA in any expanded partnership, GM Vice-Chairman Steve Girsky told Reuters last month.

Earlier this week, China Business News reported that Dongfeng might pay 1.2 billion euros for a 30 percent PSA stake.

PSA CEO Philippe Varin said in July that PSA was on track to beat its 2013 goal of halving its industrial cash burn to 1.5 billion.

got picture? share please

Bro Jfcheong, please contain your raging hormone, your drool is all over the place :-)

Nope, Did u? More waiting to put my butt inside a 2008 and see how it feels but can only do it next year