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 Demon Hunter V3, Patch 1.07 - PVP OWNAGE!

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TSlksing78
post Jan 20 2013, 04:14 AM, updated 12y ago

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Hi fellow Demon Hunters,

Is Version 3 now and despite not getting much buffs in patch 1.07, we are currently owning in PVP!

Patch 1.07 DH related patch notes:
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post Jan 20 2013, 04:14 AM

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Paragon level 100 Demon Hunters

- Blood_Bastard (PL100, DH)
Battle.net Profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Ch0p5ti...2/hero/13136676

- -ArChAng3L- (PL100, DH)
Battle.net Profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ivanteo...22/hero/6717747

- MorningStar (PL100, DH)
Battle.net Profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Morning...2/hero/14740164

- d3dragonslayer (PL100, DH)
Battle.net Profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/DragonS...8/hero/17509074

- Deckard Cain (PL100, DH)
Battle.net Profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Electro...69/hero/4323999

- 2890 (PL100, DH)
Battle.net Profile: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SwSw-2890/hero/3515351

- wKkay (PL100, DH)
Battle.net Profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/doubleu...84/hero/3112342

- nzai (PL100, DH)
Battle.net Profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SaiSaiLap-6138/

- SiZ.i7 (PL100, DH)

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post Jan 20 2013, 04:14 AM

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Been using this wonderful DPS calculator made on an excel sheet.

DOWNLOAD LINK NO LONGER WORKS. IF YOU WANT THE FILE, I DON'T MIND EMAILING IT TO YOU

CREDITS GO TO DRETAR#2712 ON THE EU SERVER.

Serves to simplify high-end gear comparison and making it easier to make fully aware purchase decisions on the AH by knowing the impact on your DPS before making the actual purchase.

Basically it is an Excel spreadsheet with 3 functions.
1) Gear comparison.
2) Specific stat change influence on your build damage.
3) Absorption calculation.

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AGAIN, i did not make this. I'm just sharing with a tool with fellow DH players her that might have problem deciding a purchase on the AH.

Have a nice day.

Legendary items rolls
Courtesy of DragonBurst: http://www.viciouscattle.com/crossbows

Calamity + DML ONLY
gains from ruby: (dps of calamity + dmg from rings/amu+ ruby dmg* (1+weapon dmg %)) / (dps of calamity + rings/amu)

gains from emerald (1+crit chance*(crit dmg without gem+ crit chance of gem))/(1+crit chance*crit dmg without gem)

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post Jan 20 2013, 11:57 PM

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LYN DH Videos

MP10 Ubers
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...7470404[/color]
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MP10 Belial
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2674975&st=300&p=58155747&#entry58155747
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PTR PVP
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2480263/+2473
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wow new thread! finally!

and thanks summarizing useful data on main page (include info that will be added in the future tongue.gif)!

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post Jan 21 2013, 03:16 PM

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V3... Hoorah. Hopefully we'll get more people rolling DH. 1.07 no buff? We'll take it on anytime. I think we've been nerfed so many times since beta that I lost count but we're still going strong.
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post Jan 21 2013, 04:22 PM

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still 1 hit kill by mobs...now feel immune liaw
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post Jan 21 2013, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Jan 21 2013, 04:22 PM)
still 1 hit kill by mobs...now feel immune liaw
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1 hit? you're our powerful cluster grenades tank... impossibru!!!
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post Jan 21 2013, 09:06 PM

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wow someone has hit p100 already... congrats!!

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btw another question asked by wKkaY..

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Bug Fixes
-The Reflects Damage affix will now properly reflect damage caused by Bola Shot


so.. is this a buff or nerf?

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post Jan 21 2013, 10:13 PM

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No idea whether is a buff or nerf..

Before this it u launch bola then gloom, the bolas that hit the rd mob before u gloom will reflect full damage.

Now if only explosions are considered (as in u shoot then time ur gloom for the explosion), then is a buff.

My two cents.
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post Jan 22 2013, 12:20 PM

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After days of rubbish legendaries, I finally rolled an AR Inna's temperance. Now thinking to sell it or use it to increase my EHP. Tough one

P/S : Gratz on the new plvl100 DH rclxms.gif

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post Jan 22 2013, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 22 2013, 12:20 PM)
After days of rubbish legendaries, I finally rolled an AR Inna's temperance. Now thinking to sell it or use it to increase my EHP. Tough one

P/S : Gratz on the new plvl100 DH  rclxms.gif
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9AS??? =)

Thanks!
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post Jan 22 2013, 12:47 PM

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Nope. only 8.. but still, its so tempting but at the same time, it's worth so much

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post Jan 22 2013, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 22 2013, 12:47 PM)
Nope. only 8.. but still, its so tempting but at the same time, it's worth so much
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Then sell it la. Your current one is 140 Dex, 50 Vit right? that AR is not going to give you much EHP boost anyway. Sell it, save up and figure out what to upgrade next. =)

or u could sell ur 140 Dex pants. i think that should fetch more gold.

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post Jan 22 2013, 12:50 PM

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Lai Lai show here...share share the inna's pantsu

but ho i found out if the pant come witj AR the max dex will be 100
if it roll a vit the dex can go really high
same goes with the belt

so if i were u ...if u wan to do ehp build
inna;s temperance use vit roll (9% ias if posible)
inna's belt use AR roll (65< if posibble)...easily switch to TWH if need dps build

cause for me
i have ehp gear and dps gear
if groupin with CM wizzy i will go full dps gear (usually mp10 uber)
if groupin with unknown /less crowd control char use ehp gear.. (usually mp10 uber)

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post Jan 22 2013, 01:19 PM

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Yeah, I was thinking the same. If I change to this, I will lose Dex & Vit at least 50 from my original inna's temp. I am planning to get the AR inna's belt but it's pretty pricey. I have the fundings but been saving for a major upgrade. I normally use my TWH and it has armor and 95 vit so changing it to Inna's belt, I'm not sure if it will increase or decrease my eHp. Think I'll use d3up and see if it works for me to change it. Btw, looks like this one have to let go.
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hi guys, normally you all running with how much AR? Im talking about MP2-3 solo play..

My setup now using gears from Monk (im a poison Monk), barbarian and buy cheap Manti, DML for testing.. im playing public game most all the time...

RD kinda hurt.. sweat.gif even in MP0/public game..

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Deckard Cain , if your TWH got VIT, then better your temperance go for AR (as per your attached photo)

Comparatively almost every single piece of innas with AR is more expensive than VIT.

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I run about 450 base AR but with more on physical and fire resist. With perfectionist, I'll get about 500+ depending if I use mempo or not. Normally I use andariel for pickup radius. I think 400+ is sufficient with about 40k+ hp. Perfectionist for passive is good to have to conserve Disc and also 10% boost to AR and HP. Shadow Power - Gloom is not a must have but it is advisable especially for RD mobs. Definitely the most popular skill for DH. Shadow power itself gives you 15% life to damage done so it's a big help.
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 22 2013, 01:32 PM)
I run about 450 base AR but with more on physical and fire resist. With perfectionist, I'll get about 500+ depending if I use mempo or not. Normally I use andariel for pickup radius. I think 400+ is sufficient with about 40k+ hp. Perfectionist for passive is good to have to conserve Disc and also 10% boost to AR and HP. Shadow Power - Gloom is not a must have but it is advisable especially for RD mobs. Definitely the most popular skill for DH. Shadow power itself gives you 15% life to damage done so it's a big help.
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thanks..Manti without LS/LoH ok or not? hard to find good and cheap LS Manti with high dps..
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jan 22 2013, 01:30 PM)
Deckard Cain , if your TWH got VIT, then better your temperance go for AR (as per your attached photo)

Comparatively almost every single piece of innas with AR is more expensive than VIT.
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Yeah I noticed. When I saw the AH, it was a shocker. I remember when the AR ones were about 70-80M but the price seems to go up. Probably because ppl are rolling less and less AR as there's only about 1 and half page of it. I need to respect and of course have to spend a bit. To cover my 50 Vit on my current Inna's, most probably have to get Vile Wards with Vit and that's going to cost a bit but something that i've been considering getting for a long time. Need that 60K HP!
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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 22 2013, 01:34 PM)
thanks..Manti without LS/LoH ok or not? hard to find good and cheap LS Manti with high dps..
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My advise, unless you have the attack speed, don't bother with LS manti's. If you're firing to slow and in small damages, the LS will be insignificant. For LS just use shadow power gloom. You will be smiling smile.gif
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Sabenarian

I run 400 AR with pickup radius gear to replenish HP and DISC so MP2 is fine. Never farm MP3 with pickup radius so don't really know. Oh i've tested that with 400 AR, u don't need Shadow Power: Gloom for MP1 or MP2. i use Shadow Power: Shadow Glide instead for the MS boost.

If u run a LS manticore, shud be even easier.

Deckard Cain

Why Inna's belt? TWH > inna's belt if u are a manticore user. And yeah, i think you should sell your loot. AR pants would fetch you big bucks.

oh btw, since u've hit paragon 100, what MP do u farm at?
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 22 2013, 01:37 PM)
My advise, unless you have the attack speed, don't bother with LS manti's. If you're firing to slow and in small damages, the LS will be insignificant. For LS just use shadow power gloom. You will be smiling smile.gif
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i will stack more Attack speed if i think want more serious on DH...now training back DH play style after long time not play then.. i stop play DH when NT (my favorite) is nerfed..

@2890

Thanks.. will copy your skill (Hungering Arrow)... i use Bola all the time as primary attack..

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 22 2013, 01:42 PM)
i will stack more Attack speed if i think want more serious on DH...now training back DH play style after long time not play then.. i stop play DH when NT (my favorite) is nerfed..
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You have some pretty good gear. Just need a bit of tweaking and It seems that you can run MP1 with no problem. I think dps wise for MP2 - 3 you will take a bit of time to kill elite right? Just a suggestion, spend a bit to get Nats boots with 180+ dex and Mempo for helm. Nats boots so you get the set bonus and replace helm with Mempo with 150+ dex. I'm sure your dps will improve much.

P/S : You should check out strafe build for super fast runs. biggrin.gif

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106 more easy for dh? I stop in 105 long time ago, log in last9, try mp7-mp10, feel better than 105?
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Definitely much easier. The mp lvl just makes it easier then easy.
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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 22 2013, 01:39 PM)
Sabenarian

I run 400 AR with pickup radius gear to replenish HP and DISC so MP2 is fine. Never farm MP3 with pickup radius so don't really know. Oh i've tested that with 400 AR, u don't need Shadow Power: Gloom for MP1 or MP2. i use Shadow Power: Shadow Glide instead for the MS boost.

If u run a LS manticore, shud be even easier.

Deckard Cain

Why Inna's belt? TWH > inna's belt if u are a manticore user. And yeah, i think you should sell your loot. AR pants would fetch you big bucks.

oh btw, since u've hit paragon 100, what MP do u farm at?
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Currently farming 3-5 lor, but it's been bad. All rubbish drops so i decided to farm 0 and guess what, 3 set items and whole lot of leg. This is JW's RNG.
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 22 2013, 01:47 PM)
You have some pretty good gear. Just need a bit of tweaking and It seems that you can run MP1 with no problem. I think dps wise for MP2 - 3 you will take a bit of time to kill elite right? Just a suggestion, spend a bit to get Nats boots with 180+ dex and Mempo for helm. Nats boots so you get the set bonus and replace helm with Mempo with 150+ dex. I'm sure your dps will improve much.

P/S : You should check out strafe build for super fast runs.  biggrin.gif
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yeah.. mempo w.o cc not cost too much... last nite saw one at very nice price...but hold my hand..i use that boot purposely for pickup onli..

btw agree with u with MP0 farming..more rewarding w/o much effort..

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 22 2013, 02:31 PM)
yeah.. mempo w.o cc not cost too much... last nite saw one at very nice price...but hold my hand..i use that boot purposely for pickup onli..

btw agree with u with MP0 farming..more rewarding w/o much effort..
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Can use Andariels with low fire damage % with pickup radius. Very cheap and super DPS boost biggrin.gif
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Anyone have a nice music play list that they listen to during D3 sessions? =)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE11_5Spq1I listening to this. Gives me a sense of calm while I'm farming lul
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Oh boy, i'm tempted..
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Wow the CG is spectacular. They should make a full fledge Starcraft movie. It would've been awesome. Now I'M TEMPTED TOO!!!!
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 22 2013, 07:02 PM)
Wow the CG is spectacular. They should make a full fledge Starcraft movie. It would've been awesome. Now I'M TEMPTED TOO!!!!
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I know!!! I hope they make a movie too man..

oh btw, do u play SC? I suck at SC but i love the story line. Used to be a protoss fan.
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u two already PL100... so job done in D3.. tongue.gif time for another game.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 22 2013, 07:07 PM)
I know!!! I hope they make a movie too man..

oh btw, do u play SC? I suck at SC but i love the story line. Used to be a protoss fan.
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Not SC2, haven't purchased it yet.. too many games too play but yeah, I played the original and this vid just makes me want to BUY IT NOW! Looks awesome. Me, I like bugs so zergs for me. Maybe I'll purchase it.
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Anyone interested in doing ubers at PTR with me? =D
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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 22 2013, 07:24 PM)
u two already PL100... so job done in D3.. tongue.gif  time for another game.. biggrin.gif
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You mean job done on DH. kekeke. I still got my barb to plvl and monk at lvl39. Going to wait for 1.07 then level them up. I am playing other games. Just that being a long fan of the Diablo franchise, I can't help my addiction for loots. I need more loots.. MORE MORE MORE
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COME LA PTR. US server down now
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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 21 2013, 10:13 PM)
No idea whether is a buff or nerf..

Before this it u launch bola then gloom, the bolas that hit the rd mob before u gloom will reflect full damage.

Now if only explosions are considered (as in u shoot then time ur gloom for the explosion), then is a buff.

My two cents.
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i see.. no wonder i got killed on rd instantly even gloom has already activated
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Welcome maxshadowmax85 new DH.
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 22 2013, 08:38 PM)
You mean job done on DH. kekeke. I still got my barb to plvl and monk at lvl39. Going to wait for 1.07 then level them up. I am playing other games. Just that being a long fan of the Diablo franchise, I can't help my addiction for loots. I need more loots.. MORE MORE MORE
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i never see before player level more than 1 toon to PL100....they play their PL100 toon or quit.. tongue.gif
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They shud make the exp bar full at paragon 100. Blue looks nicer.
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Just when we were so close to beating Kulle and SB on mp10, TNB decided to lay its wrath on me for the 2nd time this week..... So freakin pissed. I was anticipating that we were going to beat them with 4 DH. ARGGHHHhhhh.. Anyway, apologies to Morning, 2890 and MOBA. The lights went out just as I was going to go in with you guys. You can't imagine the shock I had on my face...

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Time to invest a UPS for your comp & router/modem etc... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 23 2013, 10:48 AM)
Just when we were so close to beating Kulle and SB on mp10, TNB decided to lay its wrath on me for the 2nd time this week..... So freakin pissed. I was anticipating that we were going to beat them with 4 DH. ARGGHHHhhhh.. Anyway, apologies to Morning, 2890 and MOBA. The lights went out just as I was going to go in with you guys. You can't imagine the shock I had on my face...
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sad to hear that.. last time i also have sad moment when internet connection down when 2 minutes left on my bid in AH.. Btw follow ur advise to use Mempo + Nat boot.. upgrade VW and Manti too.. feel a bit better now..
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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 23 2013, 11:18 AM)
sad to hear that.. last time i also have sad moment when internet connection down when 2 minutes left on my bid in AH.. Btw follow ur advise to use Mempo + Nat boot.. upgrade VW and Manti too.. feel a bit better now..
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and all dh looks the same! biggrin.gif
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nop not same same...cause i use andariel ...tongue.gif

looks like blizz goin to do dye for legs ....
can't wait to vanish that VW...look freeking fugly..
disturb my gorgeous femDH skin complex ...

/oktimetorun tongue.gif
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Last nite when to Diablo official forum on DH thread
and found a those with imba gear are dupe gear....
showing off their dps and ehp how much is their dps without archery /steady aim/sharpshooter...

They make me puke......
can't imagine blizz still let them get away with this...

/jellymode_off
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duping still around ah? dupe the gems laaaaaaa I wanna baiiiii
4 mill gold radiant star gems mari mari please
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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Jan 23 2013, 02:11 PM)
duping still around ah? dupe the gems laaaaaaa I wanna baiiiii
4 mill gold radiant star gems mari mari please
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me too.. I want all type of Rad stars..
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Waaaaa

If the duping start again this time, i'm gonna use half a billion to buy all sorts of emerald gems on the AH man. Last time no guts didn't dare to play. This time no more takut.
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Hey guys, any strategy on how to handle nasty barb rend. They just keep sprint, leap and rend....and gg
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last time regret for not buying them when they were "cheap".

now if I see below 15mill also I buy LOL
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QUOTE(hchoox @ Jan 23 2013, 03:07 PM)
Hey guys, any strategy on how to handle nasty barb rend. They just keep sprint, leap and rend....and gg
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I'll share with you how i own most barbs i've met so far. Before you read further, you need to know that your DPS only works up till certain EHP (HP, armor). My limit is 130k HP, 10k armor.

Ways to own barbs in PVP

1. Frostburn Gaunlets/Stone of Jordan (cold elemental)
- run Strafe: Rocket Storm
- Elemental Arrow: Frost Arrow
- Cull the Weak passives
- spider companion

Only works effectively against barbs with lower EHP and 1 v 1. Strafe benefits from the snare of SoJ and in turn enables Cull the Weak to kick in. Why should u use this? Well, owning them with Frostburn gauntlets, amazing satisfaction. Watch them being slowed while you strafe at them is hilarious.

2.4P Legacy + Battle Scars
- if you have decent EHP, battle scars is like a second life for most DH that uses 4P legacy set.
- Bear in mind that most barbs have (except top ends one like moldRan) to sacrifice their DPS for EHP. Most of them drops their skorn to use stormshield. So Rend won't be that effective anymore and won't one shot us if we have decent EHP.

4P legacy rocks in PVP. The only problem you have might be when u duel with another DH but that's another story.

3. Top Right Corner near the walls
- Barbs favorite hiding place.
- To counter this, u can drop a turret there and make them move, shoot them from the opposite or use Cluster Arrow: Shooting Stars (homing rockets).

4. Rend
- Keep your distance cuz this skill goes through smoke screen.
- most of the time to get near to you, their only way is to leap. I think that can be avoided easily. Once they leap, pop SS and start firing at them. Shouldn't be that hard if u r use to it.

Can't think of any at the moment. One of my favorites is use spitfire turret to make fun of them.

Anyway Good luck and continue owning =)

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Jan 23 2013, 03:09 PM)
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2890 are you using ballistics for pvp? seems like you have quite a few rocket skill mentioned above.

btw rocket storm is a good rune for strafe? how about stinging steel or demolition?

frostburn gauntlets. good to hear this legendary mentioned and discussed thumbup.gif

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2890 are you using ballistics for pvp? seems like you have quite a few rocket skill mentioned above.

btw rocket storm is a good rune for strafe? how about stinging steel or demolition?

frostburn gauntlets. good to hear this legendary mentioned and discussed thumbup.gif
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nope, i don't use ballistics. I use TA, Perfectionist and Steady Aim/Sharpshooter. Most of the time is SA la.

Rocket storm rocks man. I haven't really tried out Stinging Steel yet so i can't really comment but demolition defo sucks cuz rocket storm and S.Steel are homing. That's why i use rocket storm.

Frostburn is hilarious against barbs. Is good also cuz Cold SoJ are a rip off. U strafe at the barbs and they are slowed, they would pop ignore pain and jump or jump then ignore pain. SS away and shoot them with frost arrow. Rinse repeat.
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i play my dh against throw barb and i got a hard time , how to counter them ?
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i play my dh against throw barb and i got a hard time , how to counter them ?
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well DH is not your main so guess that's your problem. Gears wise probably won't be enough i guess.
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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 23 2013, 03:27 PM)
I'll share with you how i own most barbs i've met so far. Before you read further, you need to know that your DPS only works up till certain EHP (HP, armor). My limit is 130k HP, 10k armor.

Ways to own barbs in PVP

1. Frostburn Gaunlets/Stone of Jordan (cold elemental)
- run Strafe: Rocket Storm
- Elemental Arrow: Frost Arrow
- Cull the Weak passives
- spider companion

Only works effectively against barbs with lower EHP and 1 v 1. Strafe benefits from the snare of SoJ and in turn enables Cull the Weak to kick in. Why should u use this? Well, owning them with Frostburn gauntlets, amazing satisfaction. Watch them being slowed while you strafe at them is hilarious.

2.4P Legacy + Battle Scars
- if you have decent EHP, battle scars is like a second life for most DH that uses 4P legacy set.
- Bear in mind that most barbs have (except top ends one like moldRan) to sacrifice their DPS for EHP. Most of them drops their skorn to use stormshield. So Rend won't be that effective anymore and won't one shot us if we have decent EHP.

4P legacy rocks in PVP. The only problem you have might be when u duel with another DH but that's another story.

3. Top Right Corner near the walls
- Barbs favorite hiding place.
- To counter this, u can drop a turret there and make them move, shoot them from the opposite or use Cluster Arrow: Shooting Stars (homing rockets).

4. Rend
- Keep your distance cuz this skill goes through smoke screen.
- most of the time to get near to you, their only way is to leap. I think that can be avoided easily. Once they leap, pop SS and start firing at them. Shouldn't be that hard if u r use to it.

Can't think of any at the moment. One of my favorites is use spitfire turret to make fun of them.

Anyway Good luck and continue owning =)
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Thanks for the detail guide. Usually i can pawn lower ehp barb easily especially those below 500k ehp. i can 1 shot them when crit with LfB.

Hardest barb is the one with 1.5mil ehp above and with 110k dps. Any tips to deal with those. icon_question.gif

Currently i'm doing 139k dps unbuff and have 450k ehp. Just recently upgrade my gears to 990k ehp but my dps is lower down to 109k..... sad.gif
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Thanks for the detail guide. Usually i can pawn lower ehp barb easily especially those below 500k ehp. i can 1 shot them when crit with LfB.

Hardest barb is the one with 1.5mil ehp above and with 110k dps. Any tips to deal with those. icon_question.gif

Currently i'm doing 139k dps unbuff and have 450k ehp. Just recently upgrade my gears to 990k ehp but my dps is lower down to 109k.....  sad.gif
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if u have 990k EHP, 110k DPS barbs aren't a problem at all. I have 820k EHP with my full set and way lower when i use legacy set. Don't really have much problem to be honest.

Well, no tips to deal with them apart from getting more DPS. I did mention before everyone have a limit here. So your limit probably is 1.5m EHP cuz of your low DPS.

and btw, if no life regen here, maybe you can slowly wear them down but most barbs have decent life regen or passives that gives them HP. so susah la.
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I knew nat wrath goin to be usefull
hahahaha
sell them soon as 107 goes live...since i not interested in pvp.
cause i'm sux against human.
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Just saw 3 of the same Nat Reflection on AH... wow... the dupes are coming... where's the gem?

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Hi fellow DH,

Wassup? rather quiet here. I personally have not played for 2 days.
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So fellow DH out there,

Here's my profile....
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/choohun...1/Neal/15875082

Any place that need further improvement for higher mp's

Right now, most comfort mp is mp3 for me...
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QUOTE(hchoox @ Jan 24 2013, 06:43 PM)
So fellow DH out there,

Here's my profile....
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/choohun...1/Neal/15875082

Any place that need further improvement for higher mp's

Right now, most comfort mp is mp3 for me...
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Amulet
- get one with CC and CHD. I know there's tons of DEX there but i think a CC and CHD one would benefit you.

DML
- 20 AS and MAX DISC or
- 20 AS and Double DEX/VIT roll

I think the later benefit you more since you have 60 DISC already. I know 20 AS hungering arrow DMLs are expensive. Maybe try 19. 14 is too low.

I think with this two upgrades, you can hit 170k unbuff DPS.
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This is a skill problem not gear problem
if u wan to farm higher mp
chg ur skill....
Hungering sux at AOE for high mp (mp7 solo) imho

try this:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demo...;efX!aZcYaZ

I use these for higher mp (mp5-mp8) solo.
elite fight
-just plant Sentry /Guardian
-plant spiketrap/echoing blast under u or ur surrounding (much more efficent then other skill dmg/hatred ratio is good ...plant and forget bout it)
-blast away with bola /volatile and see those crit at work (since u have 53% cc) those will regen ur disp (if u use night stalker passive)in less then 5 sec...for u to gloom again...no need extra disp.
-pop gloom if hp go low
-pop lingering if jailer/frost u..sked elite cook u using molten.
(but ppl saying molten will be nerf in 107 so less pain)

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agree 2980.. switch the amulet with >50% (preferably >70%) crid dmg and lower dex would benefit u more.. and DML with higher attackspeed. 20 is expensive to get can try 18 or above (preferably >19)
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IF he wants to farm higher MP, get more DPS first. 130k is not going to get you anywhere. Might work with TONS of kiting and death.

Yeah echo blast is good for high MP with Bola: Volatile. i agree but i'm a sucker for Cluster Arrows and Hungering Arrows. =)

I use spray of teeth and LfB/CB for MP5 and above. Actually, i use HA for all MPs
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if he upgrade the DML he goin to lost 300 vit...which is very very large lost in ehp there
>250 vit DML with ias20% is not cheap to start with..

2890
for high mp i don kite anymore...no point kite since we can't kill any of those ******* in one shot..
end up chase u till end of the screen..lol
might as well just stand there and see who die 1st...lol
thats why i op for bola/volatile ...cause it help my crit and disp rregen ...for me to almost perma gloom whole battle..

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Anyone got link to recording soft. I just did ghom MP10 with the simplest setup. Want to record it down
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Jan 24 2013, 07:32 PM)
if he upgrade the DML he goin to lost 300 vit...which is very very large lost in ehp there
>250 vit DML with ias20% is not cheap to start with..

2890
for high mp i don kite anymore...no point kite since we can't kill any of those ******* in one shot..
end up chase u till end of the screen..lol
might as well just stand there and see who die 1st...lol
thats why i op for bola/volatile ...cause it help my crit and disp rregen ...for me to almost perma gloom whole battle..
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yeah i agree. I love kiting cuz it makes me feel like a pro =D

I can tank those mobs but it feels likes a monk holding FoT and spamming mantras and other skills. No fun man.


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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 25 2013, 12:02 AM)
Anyone got link to recording soft. I just did ghom MP10 with the simplest setup. Want to record it down
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Bandicam? there's tons of recording softwares for windows user. But if u're a mac user like me. then tough luck.
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Oh i've never recorded anything on my comp believe it or not. lul. But just going to try it out. I was doing ubers mp8 then everyone died against Ghom Rak but I continued glooming with bola shot... and I didn't die.... so thought I tried it with Ghom mp10 and it worked.. no sentry no traps nothing..
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Jan 24 2013, 07:32 PM)
if he upgrade the DML he goin to lost 300 vit...which is very very large lost in ehp there
>250 vit DML with ias20% is not cheap to start with..

2890
for high mp i don kite anymore...no point kite since we can't kill any of those ******* in one shot..
end up chase u till end of the screen..lol
might as well just stand there and see who die 1st...lol
thats why i op for bola/volatile ...cause it help my crit and disp rregen ...for me to almost perma gloom whole battle..
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dml gives 170-200 vit. switching to another dml only lose 100+ vit. that can be added back by switching 1 (amulet) or 2 gears.

i would prefer vault since it use less disc.. ss is costly imo.. i like to plant 2 GT at a vault distance and plant traps in between. semi kite/tank style lol
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OMG can't belip marquise ruby is damn pawerful then emerald
instant gip me 10k dps boost on ruby compare to 3kdps on emerald..
babai emerald ...
put 2 ruby on manti ans see them fly...no emerald needed..

just check using d3up.com
dragon try see ur bow...

make me think wan to get the 13++dps 200int 2 soc manti man...75mil only
haiyohhh...20AR also ok la...
sold de vmad.gif

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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Jan 25 2013, 11:37 AM)
dml gives 170-200 vit. switching to another dml only lose 100+ vit. that can be added back by switching 1 (amulet) or 2 gears.


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nah the costing will almost be the same..
wat if keep the DML and upgrade amulet and ring with ias

or

chg dml with higher ias and buy amulet and ring with vit...

at the end the diffrent still be the same ...need a lot of gold... laugh.gif
no gold no dps... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Jan 25 2013, 11:55 AM)
make me think wan to get the 13++dps 200int 2 soc manti man...75mil only
haiyohhh...20AR also ok la...
sold de vmad.gif
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wow looks like a good deal??! maybe ppl trying to resell? lol
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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Jan 25 2013, 01:54 PM)
wow looks like a good deal??! maybe ppl trying to resell? lol
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Ahhh damn stress de vmad.gif
if not can put 2 marquise ruby de
and see the weapon dps fly from 13++dps to 16++dps on 2 soc .. cry.gif

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The marquise ruby would benefit WF users more i think. Sentry players would also reap the biggest benefits as sentry does not crit so emeralds are pointless.

Manticore uses would still stick to the emerald version due to their high CC and slower AS.
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why does WF benefit more compare to manti..

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not yet. ptr only
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Just rolled a razorspike with

Dex : 136
Vit : 142
AR : 60
CC : 5.0

Thinking should sell it or replace my strongarm. Btw, what do you guys think about Nat's reflection for 230M. Considering replacing my trifecta ring.

Dex : 114
AS : 8
CD : 26
CC : 3.5

P/S : I just bought a UNID manticore and I rolled a 2 socket, 1373.5 DPS with sadly 179 Intel.

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Yeah the rare bracers are defo better.

Hmm, 230m for that ring? Got resale value? Try to get 9AS.

Wow nice roll but can fetch 200m I think?
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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 27 2013, 12:08 PM)
Yeah the rare bracers are defo better.

Hmm, 230m for that ring? Got resale value? Try to get 9AS.

Wow nice roll but can fetch 200m I think?
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Yeah i want it to be 9AS but the ones with it only have like 80+ dex and priced at almost 400M. A bit expensive for just that 1%. Funny thing is the one i want to buy is a dupe Nats, I saw 4 of it listed, now left 2 more. Maybe I should just wait 1st? You think 230M is worth it?

The mantis for 2 socket, mine is currently the highest dps in the AH but a bit sad its intel based. I think can sell a lot more then 200M but I intend to use it. I think the EU sells cheaper maybe but US, they are all in the Billions. I will never roll another like this again so make use of it lar. This week quite lucky. I sold 200M worth of items in total. Some good rare item rolls as well.
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 27 2013, 12:16 PM)
Yeah i want it to be 9AS but the ones with it only have like 80+ dex and priced at almost 400M. A bit expensive for just that 1%. Funny thing is the one i want to buy is a dupe Nats, I saw 4 of it listed, now left 2 more. Maybe I should just wait 1st? You think 230M is worth it?

The mantis for 2 socket, mine is currently the highest dps in the AH but a bit sad its intel based. I think can sell a lot more then 200M but I intend to use it. I think the EU sells cheaper maybe but US, they are all in the Billions. I will never roll another like this again so make use of it lar. This week quite lucky. I sold 200M worth of items in total. Some good rare item rolls as well.
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Nah won't pay 230 for that ring.

And yeah, I'm saving for a 1.3k manti with dex. Is worth billions.
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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 27 2013, 12:39 PM)
Nah won't pay 230 for that ring.

And yeah, I'm saving for a 1.3k manti with dex. Is worth billions.
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Wish I got dex rolled instead... but be thankful lar. The UNID i only bought for 11M. i have a guy who sells me mempo, WH, Lacuni's, Calamity and Manticores for very cheap price. In return I sell him UNID wiz items. China guy very friendly. Yeah I feel like 230M is quite painful but there aren't many trifecta listed, I have a problem changing me other ring coz of the 130 vit it gives me and 6.0 CC. This kind of stat if Nat's... it's going to cost 500M upwards. How much are you willing to pay for dex 1.3k dps mantis?

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 27 2013, 12:58 PM)
Wish I got dex rolled instead... but be thankful lar. The UNID i only bought for 11M. i have a guy who sells me mempo, WH, Lacuni's, Calamity and Manticores for very cheap price. In return I sell him UNID wiz items. China guy very friendly. Yeah I feel like 230M is quite painful but there aren't many trifecta listed, I have a problem changing me other ring coz of the 130 vit it gives me and 6.0 CC. This kind of stat if Nat's... it's going to cost 500M upwards. How much are you willing to pay for dex 1.3k dps mantis?
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I'm looking at a trifecta nat as well. 5.0cc, 9as and 33chd for 600-700m.

The manti? 2b max
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I'm looking at a trifecta nat as well. 5.0cc, 9as and 33chd for 600-700m.

The manti? 2b max
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those tri's sounds better. think i'll just wait up lar. No rush. I guess the price for the manti should be around there lar. Especially with dex stat at hi dps. I'll continue buy UNID from this guy and hopefully get another one with Dex. So far the items that bought from him rolled stats that I sold higher then what I paid for his UNID so no lost so far. Still got mempo with CC to go.. this will be the final item i ever purchased.
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to all sifus here... do you all mind to give some advice on what to upgrade next ?
i am using HA and chakram with Cal.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sophien...1/hero/12557910
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1B definitely worth it. 50% dmg somemore and only less IAS by 1%. Still for a dex roll its worth it. US server all above 1B for this stats. Almost 2b leh.
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QUOTE(AngelOfDestruction @ Jan 27 2013, 08:58 PM)
to all sifus here... do you all mind to give some advice on what to upgrade next ?
i am using HA and chakram with Cal.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sophien...1/hero/12557910
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1st off, judging by your gears, I think you're are still lacking crit chance even with Archery passive. You don't really have to worry about Attack speed since you are using Calamity. Try to concentrate ur ring's and amulet on CC & CD. CD because you are lacking as your calamity has no socket. Hp is ok but your resist is quite low. This one you might have to spend a bit to get AR gears. The tricky part is maintaining your hp but having more resist, CD and CC. This is going to cost you. I think it's because you build your DH around HP, now to maintain it by changing gears, it's very expensive. Honestly, if you're running mp0-1, at 45k hp with 400resist and 4k armor is good enough. 50k + is normally what we look at running mp3 and above. You can sacrifise some vit to gain dps and resist if your running lower mp. Pretty balancy build but get more CC.
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I thought eu market is expensive than us? if this selling 1b in us definitely gonna sniped..not by me sad.gif

edit: idk man.I just like the high black dmg. it might worth even more if crit dmg above 90

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is cheap cuz is duped =)
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post Jan 28 2013, 07:40 AM

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...sold my calamity for 2B gold, listed it in gAH overnight and done deal.

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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 28 2013, 02:24 AM)
is cheap cuz is duped =)
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we just love and hate duped, isn't it smile.gif
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Jan 28 2013, 07:40 AM)
...sold my calamity for 2B gold, listed it in gAH overnight and done deal.
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no more playing dh?
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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Jan 28 2013, 09:03 AM)
no more playing dh?
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...still harbor the interest to play dh char however the 1B gold profit is too irresistible to pass up.
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Wow.. but it was such an epic H. Crossbow one that can never find again. I guess the profit from it is far better. So what are you going to use to replace your Cals?

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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 28 2013, 02:24 AM)
is cheap cuz is duped =)
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holy crap.. how come we don't have duped mantis and mempos here.. or maybe in time we'll see them.
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 28 2013, 01:39 AM)
1st off, judging by your gears, I think you're are still lacking crit chance even with Archery passive. You don't really have to worry about Attack speed since you are using Calamity. Try to concentrate ur ring's and amulet on CC & CD. CD because you are lacking as your calamity has no socket. Hp is ok but your resist is quite low. This one you might have to spend a bit to get AR gears. The tricky part is maintaining your hp but having more resist, CD and CC. This is going to cost you. I think it's because you build your DH around HP, now to maintain it by changing gears, it's very expensive. Honestly, if you're running mp0-1, at 45k hp with 400resist and 4k armor is good enough. 50k + is normally what we look at running mp3 and above. You can sacrifise some vit to gain dps and resist if your running lower mp. Pretty balancy build but get more CC.
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hey,, thanks ...
resist at 300 over is way low.... haiz... need gold to fix that... sad.gif
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If everything goes the way i hope it does in my personal life, i'm going to quit for good.

I might sell but i think i'll just give away everything i have.

Fingers crossed.

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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 28 2013, 06:05 PM)
If everything goes the way i hope it does in my personal life, i'm going to quit for good.

I might sell but i think i'll just give away everything i have.

Fingers crossed.
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you can go on living life and enjoy D3 at the same time. You're almost at your peak already so just keep what you have and comeback to play whenever you have time or whenever you feel like it. There's no need to quit man.
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Today so angry.... I just accidentally salvage one of my most beloved ring :

http://d3up.com/i/3496931

Feel so depressed now...
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 28 2013, 02:29 PM)
holy crap.. how come we don't have duped mantis and mempos here.. or maybe in time we'll see them.
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yup US server do have manti and WF dupe
i saw them.. brows.gif

if u filter 2 soc manti u'll see it
if it's still there...
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Jan 29 2013, 12:54 AM)
yup US server do have manti and WF dupe
i saw them.. brows.gif

if u filter 2 soc manti u'll see it
if it's still there...
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HOLY SHIT!! I SAW IT. 1286.5 DPS, EXACT BLOODY SAME MANTICORES!! wahhhhh.. not cheap some more

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 28 2013, 08:41 PM)
you can go on living life and enjoy D3 at the same time. You're almost at your peak already so just keep what you have and comeback to play whenever you have time or whenever you feel like it. There's no need to quit man.
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Nah.. But thanks for your advice. smile.gif
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Yah me also floating around de...
busy with other games (DMC..Hitman...MGS rising coming soon)
might take holiday from D3

3 days holiday from d3 de...lol


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come back in 1.0.7 maybe??
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come back in 1.0.7 maybe??
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possibly ...maybe laugh.gif
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Soon the DH thread will be quite .. So sad
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 29 2013, 08:55 PM)
Soon the DH thread will be quite .. So sad
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well, no choice cuz not much ppl playing DH.
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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 29 2013, 09:08 PM)
well, no choice cuz not much ppl playing DH.
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game is pretty dead... I know a few ppl waiting for pvp but without any rewards etc. it will just be entertaining for a day or two. instead its back to grinding to craft ammys gloves etc.... same map same old story
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Sold my manticore for 600m.

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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 30 2013, 02:08 AM)
Sold my manticore for 600m.
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Dang.. so sad to see fellow DH leave. If you were on my server, i'd buy some of your gears from you. Now only a handful left... soon.. maybe less then 3. cry.gif
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Guys. Need your kind advice. Does DH need LS bow/manti for farming at mp5? What is the minimum stat to roll mp5. AR,Amor and HP. Tq.. dH noob here. notworthy.gif
I see a lot of Dh not required Ls and high in HP.
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 30 2013, 02:28 AM)
Dang.. so sad to see fellow DH leave. If you were on my server, i'd buy some of your gears from you. Now only a handful left... soon.. maybe less then 3.  cry.gif
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Nah i'm not leaving. i'm just awol cuz i got personal problems to sort out first.

And btw, i sold that manticore to get this

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p.s: wat u wanna buy from me?

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Jan 30 2013, 02:31 AM)
Guys. Need your kind advice. Does DH need LS bow/manti for farming at mp5? What is the minimum stat to roll  mp5. AR,Amor and HP. Tq.. dH noob here.  notworthy.gif 
I see a lot of Dh not required Ls and high in HP.
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nope don't need LS. We have gloom.

minimum stat? i think u should roll a DH and find out. Varies with everyone due to different play style.

I do mp5 now and is pretty quick.
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Done rolling the dh.. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/FE3DOE-6358/hero/28737461
But my dps kinda low.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Jan 30 2013, 03:37 AM)
Done rolling the dh.. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/FE3DOE-6358/hero/28737461
But my dps kinda low.. doh.gif
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too bad cry.gif
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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Jan 30 2013, 02:31 AM)
Guys. Need your kind advice. Does DH need LS bow/manti for farming at mp5? What is the minimum stat to roll  mp5. AR,Amor and HP. Tq.. dH noob here.  notworthy.gif 
I see a lot of Dh not required Ls and high in HP.
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gloom ftw. dh don't need ls/loh affix smile.gif

QUOTE(fe3doe @ Jan 30 2013, 02:37 AM)
Done rolling the dh.. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/FE3DOE-6358/hero/28737461
But my dps kinda low.. doh.gif
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why not get the mempo with cc from your monk brows.gif

btw nice bola shot combination you have there
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Gloom work in pvp ?
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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 30 2013, 02:33 AM)
Nah i'm not leaving. i'm just awol cuz i got personal problems to sort out first.

And btw, i sold that manticore to get this

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p.s: wat u wanna buy from me?
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Good to hear that you're not leaving. Sort out what you need to sort out. Believe it or not, I have more things to sort out with my own business and family. That's a handful but I take things one at a time. We're all human and we can only do so much. There's solutions to everything. It's just a matter of time before we find it. Btw, It's about time you change to high end mantis larr.. I think you've been using that for ages. I found out my mantis can sell about close to 1B, i saw someone posted slightly lower dps and sold for 800M+ also intel one. Thought sell mine get calamity. LUL. We'll see how lar. Anyway, I was saying if I was playing on your euro server and you were going to leave, then I'll buy your stuff.. hehe. I'm still shopping for my tri nat's reflection. Hunting for a good one. US server, everything is mahal.
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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Jan 30 2013, 02:37 AM)
Done rolling the dh.. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/FE3DOE-6358/hero/28737461
But my dps kinda low.. doh.gif
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Welcome! Welcome! Lucky you roll monk.. make it easier to gear a DH. Btw, your dps is low because, 1st, your calamity no socket 2nd, you're using stone of jordan. I'm sure if you change both, at least I would say about 150K easily and yeah, if you have mempo with cc.. use it on ur DH ler.. sure increase dps some more.
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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Jan 30 2013, 10:59 AM)
Gloom work in pvp ?
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it works just like normal LS, where people saying that LS is not significant on pvp. so yeah it still works, as long as you aware that LS does not help much on pvp.

btw, i never play PTR before tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 30 2013, 11:18 AM)
Welcome! Welcome! Lucky you roll monk.. make it easier to gear a DH. Btw, your dps is low because, 1st, your calamity no socket 2nd, you're using stone of jordan. I'm sure if you change both, at least I would say about 150K easily and yeah, if you have mempo with cc.. use it on ur DH ler.. sure increase dps some more.
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i'm a soj user and i don't really recommend switching soj to better rings just for the higher paper dps. however it's cool to get higher bonus vs elites (usually i'll get 29 and above) to make it worth one of your ring slot smile.gif
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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Jan 30 2013, 10:59 AM)
Gloom work in pvp ?
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I use it against WD since they have 2 lives.. They haunt you before they die so you're still getting damage while they are in spirit walk form.. then wait for them to revive again... Use gloom, shoot their pet and LS at the same time while waiting. Then SS, go near the voodoo king and LFB! 1 shot only. Insta death
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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Jan 30 2013, 11:25 AM)
i'm a soj user and i don't really recommend switching soj to better rings just for the higher paper dps. however it's cool to get higher bonus vs elites (usually i'll get 29 and above) to make it worth one of your ring slot smile.gif
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Of course SoJ's are great especially on higher mp's but if he farm mp0-1 with DH then can maximize dps while steamroll mobs. My one only 28% but then I got it for less then 5M so cannot complain. Btw, already survey your TWH?
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I noob, what s LFB?
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 30 2013, 11:29 AM)
Of course SoJ's are great especially on higher mp's but if he farm mp0-1 with DH then can maximize dps while steamroll mobs. My one only 28% but then I got it for less then 5M so cannot complain. Btw, already survey your TWH?
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28% is also quite decent.. not yet just doing window shopping only as i got tons of gears to upgrade lol.. thanks for borrowing ur witching hour for testing it does feel good to see higher crit number pops out biggrin.gif
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I noob, what s LFB?
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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Jan 30 2013, 11:35 AM)
28% is also quite decent.. not yet just doing window shopping only as i got tons of gears to upgrade lol.. thanks for borrowing ur witching hour for testing it does feel good to see higher crit number pops out biggrin.gif
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Don't mention it and yeah, TWH is really nice for crits and IAS bonus. The stats although not super high but still good as they come with vit dex combo. Which is still ok. You'll probably lose vit but not much if you get that 90+ vit TWH's. Btw, no need to work arr tongue.gif
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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Jan 30 2013, 10:30 AM)
gloom ftw. dh don't need ls/loh affix smile.gif
i think i want sell my manti and get those w/o LS...

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 30 2013, 11:57 AM)
i think i want sell my manti and get those w/o LS...
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Yeah. Even with windforce, with 200+ dps, I can tell you LS not enough against RD. Somemore I have 500+ resist+ 4900 armor.. still die. I think for DH need at least 5-6% LS for it to work or 3% + 700-900 LoH for it to work but since got gloom, no need all those. Just Gloom and shoot away. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 30 2013, 12:03 PM)
Yeah. Even with windforce, with 200+ dps, I can tell you LS not enough against RD. Somemore I have 500+ resist+ 4900 armor.. still die. I think for DH need at least 5-6% LS for it to work or 3% + 700-900 LoH for it to work but since got gloom, no need all those. Just Gloom and shoot away.  biggrin.gif
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but still cant decide which type to buy...
i did a calculation with 100m budget Manti (1 OS vs 2 OS)... currently at AH..
if 1 OS, can get like 13xx dps, 18x Dex, 85+ CD
if 2 OS, can get like 11xx dps, 17x Dex, 85+ CD

DPS not much different for my current gears setup (6k-7k dps increase)... maybe my CC too low so 2 OS manti give me less benefit.. or maybe forget about manti upgrade and buy a TWH... can get 30-40m TWH and increase like 4k dps with increase my AS at the same time..

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 30 2013, 12:24 PM)
but still cant decide which type to buy...
i did a calculation with 100m budget Manti (1 OS vs 2 OS)... currently at AH..
if 1 OS, can get like 13xx dps, 18x Dex, 85+ CD
if 2 OS, can get like 11xx dps, 17x Dex, 85+ CD

DPS not much different for my current gears setup (6k-7k dps increase)... maybe my CC too low so 2 OS manti give me less benefit.. or maybe forget about manti upgrade and buy a TWH... can get 30-40m TWH and increase like 4k dps with increase my AS at the same time..
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I was using 1335.5 dps single socket which I got for about 50M or so If i can recall and it was equivalent to 12xx dps 2 socket ones. But if you particularly like big crits, of course 2 sockets which brings me to another issue, having big crits but low cc also pointless.. you need to have substantial cc for it to work. One more thing is, pumping up IAS for manticore. If you have 2 sockets, then rings can skip CD but instead, look for ones with CC and IAS. TWH def a must get for manti users for IAS and if you have enough resist, can get lacuni's too which is a big dps booster. I for one prefer to stay alive so I opt for normal bracers for eHP increase. 100M is too much for 1 socket ones. At 13xx, i'll pay 80M max depending on the DPS and stats.
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 30 2013, 12:36 PM)
I was using 1335.5 dps single socket which I got for about 50M or so If i can recall and it was equivalent to 12xx dps 2 socket ones. But if you particularly like big crits, of course 2 sockets which brings me to another issue, having big crits but low cc also pointless.. you need to have substantial cc for it to work. One more thing is, pumping up IAS for manticore. If you have 2 sockets, then rings can skip CD but instead, look for ones with CC and IAS. TWH def a must get for manti users for IAS and if you have enough resist, can get lacuni's too which is a big dps booster. I for one prefer to stay alive so I opt for normal bracers for eHP increase. 100M is too much for 1 socket ones. At 13xx, i'll pay 80M max depending on the DPS and stats.
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yeah...can get less than 100m for sure...if i spend more time often in AH..spotted them several times but still hold my hand..
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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 30 2013, 12:44 PM)
yeah...can get less than 100m for sure...if i spend more time often in AH..spotted them several times but still hold my hand..
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let me check.. i might have spare 11xx 2 socket ones.. can pinjam you. Not sure if i already brim it tongue.gif
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brimstone 11xx dps 2 os? rclxub.gif really... non dex roll?
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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 30 2013, 12:57 PM)
brimstone 11xx dps 2 os?  rclxub.gif really... non dex roll?
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Should be.. I'm not sure.. I finish my run, i check my stash and see
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bcos 11xx 2 os 150+ dex still worth 40m+ in AH now..
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sabenarian

Your current manticore is fine. Don't change it first. Use your gold on other parts first.
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I stared off with a worst 1OS manti than you. Upgrade other parts as much as you can before going into weapon upgrade.
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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 30 2013, 01:05 PM)
I stared off with a worst 1OS manti than you. Upgrade other parts as much as you can before going into weapon upgrade.
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yes.. im waiting for 1.07... want see if can get good crafted amulet (major dps boost for me).. all my DH gears are cheap one (unless for Manti) also using existing gear for testing. now starting to get back my DH play style, thats why considering to get more serious in DH gearing..

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Sorry, checked my stash.. 2 socket one is 1009 dps. lul and 1 socket one is 1257 but with intel.. If got then i pinjam you, no need to spend money until you get a good upgrade. Think urs for now ok

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actually how much dps is needed as entry level DH?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/yuhhaur...8/hero/14736462 my DH, items are collected over time but hardly play him out.

Is my armor too high?
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whoa just realize that my nat sight almost roll max armor!
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Wow, why suddenly everyone wanna play DH???
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Wow, why suddenly everyone wanna play DH???
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because you wanna leave whistling.gif we thought of wanna filled up the space tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 30 2013, 03:15 PM)
Sorry, checked my stash.. 2 socket one is 1009 dps. lul and 1 socket one is 1257 but with intel..  If got then i pinjam you, no need to spend money until you get a good upgrade. Think urs for now ok
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Wow, why suddenly everyone wanna play DH???
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FYI, my male DH is my 2nd hero reached 60...play DH so much that time... I missed vault... biggrin.gif and kitting.. biggrin.gif ..
btw DH cant play on lazy mode (or i don know how).. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jan 30 2013, 03:44 PM)
actually how much dps is needed as entry level DH?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/yuhhaur...8/hero/14736462 my DH, items are collected over time but hardly play him out.

Is my armor too high?
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no MS at all? hmm.gif
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no MS at all?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jan 30 2013, 04:01 PM)
lazy to swap in the inna pant & nat ring/boot ma...
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ic biggrin.gif ... ur DH ok i think for MP0/public game..but if u not carefull, RD will kill u easily bcos ur HP too low..

but i saw last time a DH, HP below than 30k...survive very well in public game... maybe his dps is low so RD not return dmg too much..

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jan 30 2013, 03:44 PM)
actually how much dps is needed as entry level DH?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/yuhhaur...8/hero/14736462 my DH, items are collected over time but hardly play him out.

Is my armor too high?
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if i remember correctly i was playing at around 110-130k dps with no passive buff (TA, Vengence, NS) and do speed farming at mp0-1. so ~120k is enough for mp0 i guess (of course the higher the better).
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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 30 2013, 03:56 PM)
ok thanks.. rclxms.gif

FYI, my male DH is my 2nd hero reached 60...play DH so much that time... I missed vault... biggrin.gif and kitting.. biggrin.gif ..
btw DH cant play on lazy mode (or i don know how).. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 30 2013, 04:05 PM)
ic biggrin.gif ... ur DH ok i think for MP0/public game..but if u not carefull, RD will kill u easily bcos ur HP too low..

but i saw last time a DH, HP below than 30k...survive very well in public game... maybe his dps is low so RD not return dmg too much..
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My DH used to have the highest HP among all my toon. As of today morning my monk finally beats him after getting the Vileward upgrades icon_rolleyes.gif

I always thinks like, when you have good armor+resist, having low HP is really not a big deal.

Low armor+resist, need high HP, and vice versa.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jan 30 2013, 04:28 PM)
My DH used to have the highest HP among all my toon. As of today morning my monk finally beats him after getting the Vileward upgrades  icon_rolleyes.gif

I always thinks like, when you have good armor+resist, having low HP is really not a big deal.

Low armor+resist, need high HP, and vice versa.
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try first in game... remember DH don have 30% dmg reduce.. biggrin.gif
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try first in game... remember DH don have 30% dmg reduce.. biggrin.gif
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Defensive Rule

Armor -> AR -> HP

So yeah, work on the first two but dont neglect HP as well.
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jan 30 2013, 04:46 PM)
can I hide behind your barb?
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can...but i cant help with mortar and TP elites.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 30 2013, 04:37 PM)
try first in game... remember DH don have 30% dmg reduce.. biggrin.gif
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gloom + guardian turret = 50% dmg reduce biggrin.gif
another lazy mode for high ias DH (Cala user) > pop GT > gloom > spam Bola/TB @ Grenade/Stun > plant Spike Trap/EB .. perma gloom till mobs dead biggrin.gif
i foresee most Cala user with socket .. switching to ruby soon .. sentry will benefit from it a lot
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Hi fellow DH,

need some feedback

Manticore 1
1322.2 DPS
900-1286 Damage
280-539 Poison Damage
50% Damage
189 DEX
10% AS
89% CHD
2 OS

1.4b bid 1.6b b/o
1h 29m

Manticore 2
1307.3 DPS
894-1247 Damage
279-505 Poison
49% Damage
192 DEX
11% AS
96% CHD
2 OS

2b bid 2b b/o
1d

Wait?
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the 2nd seems like the better one with high dex, max ias & almost perfect CD. did u use d3up ?
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 30 2013, 10:48 PM)
the 2nd seems like the better one with high dex, max ias & almost perfect CD. did u use d3up ?
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i used spreadsheet. both same DPS return.
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I prefer stats to base dps. Of course the difference is small but higher dex = better dodge eHP, Higher crit = of course bigger crits, 11% ias = well pretty obvious. you know what I mean lar.. hehe. So I would go with the latter for sure.
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I prefer stats to base dps. Of course the difference is small but higher dex = better dodge eHP, Higher crit = of course bigger crits, 11% ias = well pretty obvious. you know what I mean lar.. hehe. So I would go with the latter for sure.
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the first manti has AH bots on it i think. 1.4b n 1.6b

i put 1.59b bid and terus the bid goes to 1.47. they forcing to buyout man
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lol wtf.. lost that manticore.. got outbid..
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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 30 2013, 11:09 PM)
lol wtf.. lost that manticore.. got outbid..
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Say hi =)

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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 31 2013, 02:33 AM)
Say hi =)

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Saw this on a Blogpost site, on "D3 Best Top Ten Legendaries". it was posted on Dec 16, 2012. So maybe some info in there might defer with players thought since it was before PvP.

ok, what i want to ask is on the manticore points, the dude write :
"The added Poison damage which negates the +holy damage of Inna's belt"

Err..what does it means?

TQ.

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http://themgamer.blogspot.com/2012/12/diablo-3-top-10-best-legendaries.html
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QUOTE(HaRuaN.X @ Jan 31 2013, 10:02 AM)
Saw this on a Blogpost site, on "D3 Best Top Ten Legendaries". it was posted on Dec 16, 2012. So maybe some info in there might defer with players thought since it was before PvP.

ok, what i want to ask is on the manticore points, the dude write :
"The added Poison damage which negates the +holy damage of Inna's belt"

Err..what does it means?

TQ.

The Web Link:
http://themgamer.blogspot.com/2012/12/diablo-3-top-10-best-legendaries.html
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that is average damage aka black damage. affix with +elemental damage, +bonus vs elites are calculated on top of your black damage only.

example
manticore with 1200 dps where
1000 avg damage + 200 poison damage

wearing inna belt with +7% holy damage
meaning you will deal 1000 avg damage + 200 poison damage + 70 holy damage

* so the 200 poison damage is negated by the +holy damage of Inna's belt

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The Web Link:
http://themgamer.blogspot.com/2012/12/diablo-3-top-10-best-legendaries.html
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i LOLed at the vile ward:

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+Best looking item in-game.

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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 31 2013, 02:33 AM)
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im not follow all of your previous post, can put ss for your old Manti?
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im not follow all of your previous post, can put ss for your old Manti?
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1264 DPS
803 - 1287 damage
10 AS
78 CHD
2 OS
189 Dex

i sold it.

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Wow, why suddenly everyone wanna play DH???
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because stash are full i guess.. sweat.gif tongue.gif
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Damage reflected back from the Reflects Damage affix should now be capped at 10% of the monster’s current health pool (overkill damage is not considered in the reflect)

GOOD OR BAD???
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Damage reflected back from the Reflects Damage affix should now be capped at 10% of the monster’s current health pool (overkill damage is not considered in the reflect)

GOOD OR BAD???
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yeah i'm curious of this too.. what does it mean

is it if we're dealing with rd monster with 10k hp, we will get max 1k refelct from this mob?
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i wonder what amount of damage will mp10 SB reflect back .. lolz
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So now the question is

10% of mobs HP better or 10% of our damage better?

I think the later man.
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or this -> (overkill damage is not considered in the reflect)

meaning a mob with 10k hp, we one shot it with 200k damage, so previously damage reflected to us would be 20k, but now reduced to 1k?
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I did some numbers testing. I don't think is good at all..

If the mob have 10m HP, the reflect is going to be 1m.

I have 90.28% damage reduction and that means im gonna get 97,204 damage from a 1m damage hit.

WOW, insta ko ka?
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the grammar structure suggests good...

Its implying its now capped ma...
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physical resist does not count towards reflect damage?

if you're dealing 10m damage in one shot then i guess so.. insta ko

btw i always die instantly when i didn't gloom before shoot so.. ya still insta ko too lol
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i think what they mean is this

rd still applies as usual but then the damage is capped at 10% of mobs HP?
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Two nice things happened in a single game yesterday biggrin.gif

1) My progression partner found an upgrade for my Lacunis, with vit, and gave it to me.

2) I crafted a vit hellfire with dex/cc/cd/armor.
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for my progression is I found out dh can fight reflect dmg mobs without gloom...
and I have 9 LS
3 from bow
6 from skill....

later try ghom without gloom..
wish me all tha best.
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Feb 1 2013, 10:02 AM)
Two nice things happened in a single game yesterday biggrin.gif

1) My progression partner found an upgrade for my Lacunis, with vit, and gave it to me.

2) I crafted a vit hellfire with dex/cc/cd/armor.
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very nice on the HF, not easy to get ones with vit and dex combo. Wish i had more luck with it
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 1 2013, 10:31 AM)
for my progression is I found out dh can fight reflect dmg mobs without gloom...
and I have 9 LS
3 from bow
6 from skill....

later try ghom without gloom..
wish me all tha best.
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Good luck on Ghom. Shouldn't be a problem with bow AS. I think you'll come out ok.
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 1 2013, 10:31 AM)
for my progression is I found out dh can fight reflect dmg mobs without gloom...
and I have 9 LS
3 from bow
6 from skill....

later try ghom without gloom..
wish me all tha best.
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I think you mean 4 LS from skills: 3 from nether tent and 1 from M44D.

I salute you if you can facetank MP10 ghom without gloom biggrin.gif his poison drains HP really quickly...
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 1 2013, 10:31 AM)
for my progression is I found out dh can fight reflect dmg mobs without gloom...
and I have 9 LS
3 from bow
6 from skill....

later try ghom without gloom..
wish me all tha best.
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Please share your findings and your build.
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entangling shot (another unuse skill...lol) rune Bounty hunter (6% life per hit)
another 3 % is from my WF bow..

So I kinda like to use the unwanted skill that ppl don use
Charkram
Entangling
so if i use M4d ...that would make my LS 10% per shot....Hmmmmm brows.gif
lol

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 1 2013, 03:18 PM)
entangling shot (another unuse skill...lol) rune Bounty hunter (6% life per hit)
another 3 % is from my WF bow..

So I kinda like to use the unwanted skill that ppl don use
Charkram
Entangling
so if i use M4d ...that would make my LS 10% per shot....Hmmmmm brows.gif
lol
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...should have tried your setup b4 selling off my dh's calamity ...no gloom still can live.

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I use Shadow Glide.
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I use Shadow Glide.
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I think you mean 4 LS from skills: 3 from nether tent and 1 from M44D.

I salute you if you can facetank MP10 ghom without gloom biggrin.gif his poison drains HP really quickly...
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challenge accepted.

eh wait, face tank? can't even move? =.=
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QUOTE(2890 @ Feb 1 2013, 07:03 PM)
challenge accepted.

eh wait, face tank? can't even move? =.=
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Ghom face tank without gloom ....phail... sad.gif
poison really pain
DH without gloom total phail

RD elite can pass....without gloom
9% LS

Maybe I can try SB..solo...hmmmm

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That sounds like something Durex sells laugh.gif
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 2 2013, 12:50 AM)
Ghom face tank without gloom ....phail... sad.gif
poison really pain
DH without gloom total phail

RD elite can pass....without gloom
9% LS

Maybe I can try SB..solo...hmmmm
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got try fart back at him with gas grenades? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Feb 2 2013, 08:32 AM)
got try fart back at him with gas grenades? biggrin.gif
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my fart not pawah enuff..

but i gip him firecraker last time brows.gif
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What our at/armor?
Summerfist da monk can survive with 5.5%ls+500loh @100k DPS @ 5k armor+500ar.
If taking 30%dmg reduction means you need 6k armor+600ar to survive facetank
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Or, try lower mp see which mp levels you survive?
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Feb 2 2013, 08:30 PM)
What our at/armor?
Summerfist da monk can survive with 5.5%ls+500loh @100k DPS @ 5k armor+500ar.
If taking 30%dmg reduction means you need 6k armor+600ar to survive facetank
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my ehp mode is
70khp
7++ AR
4+++armor (phail here)
170k dps... sad.gif

nah DH is phail char to begin with ...without gloom they are worth less laugh.gif

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 2 2013, 11:05 PM)
my ehp mode is
70khp
7++ AR
4+++armor (phail here)
170k dps... sad.gif

nah DH is phail char to begin with ...without gloom they are worth less laugh.gif
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70K HP/ 700+ AR / 4K+ Armor.

That is god mode for me, not ehp mode. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 2 2013, 11:05 PM)
my ehp mode is
70khp
7++ AR
4+++armor (phail here)
170k dps... sad.gif

nah DH is phail char to begin with ...without gloom they are worth less laugh.gif
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Don't overdo it. If u stack so much u lose DPS and u benefit less from Gloom.

I have 820k EHP (61k HP, 626 aR and 3.4k armor). I wanna drop my pants and get inna. I think 600k EHP enough.
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Just sampai oval 60..How u guys play demon hunter? Always avoid frm getting hit, set traps , use shadow skills and speed and summon wolf?

What's recommended specs to play inferno? Items to focus on critical hit,dex, magic find,money find, life hit, life steal? My char always die after Kena hit 1-2 times. Izzit normal?

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QUOTE(john_makaay @ Feb 3 2013, 02:48 AM)
Just sampai oval 60..How u guys play demon hunter? Always avoid frm getting hit, set traps , use shadow skills and speed and summon wolf?

What's recommended specs to play inferno? Items to focus on critical hit,dex, magic find,money find, life hit, life steal? My char always die after Kena hit 1-2 times. Izzit normal?
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Real dh face tank.
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QUOTE(2890 @ Feb 3 2013, 02:16 AM)
Don't overdo it. If u stack so much u lose DPS and u benefit less from Gloom.

I have 820k EHP (61k HP, 626 aR and 3.4k armor). I wanna drop my pants and get inna. I think 600k EHP enough.
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U missing the point man
I wan to try to play DH without too dependent on gloom

kinda borring don u think ..when ever facing near death just press gloom.

"Been glooming since 2012" laugh.gif

If u know me..I always explore new skill to make my DH game play spicier thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Feb 3 2013, 01:35 AM)
70K HP/ 700+ AR / 4K+ Armor.

That is god mode for me, not ehp mode.  laugh.gif
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That is wat i use when i tank mp10 uber last time sweat.gif
yup with gloom (worthless with out gloom)
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Gloom is Gloomy.... Hopefully 1.08 will see something good for DH, for now, no choice but to gloom.
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Harlo, I am trying to make my DH survive my her own. But I don't know what she should use!

I have this bow that has more damage and more atk spd with life per hit, another with a socket that I put a green bling in for crit dmg. Which one would be better?

Though I'm using sharpshooter, my base crit rate is only about 20-30%. So after I hit a crit, it goes back to 20% and slowly recharge back to 100%. So should I increase my base dmg or my crit dmg instead? I was also interested in the life per hit because my dh clothes are kinda ragged. blush.gif

Okay sounds so confusing. sweat.gif i'm not good at talking.

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1st off, you have a long way to go but lets take it step by step. Most importantly is surviving mp0. How are you holding up or can you solo mp0? I see you have sufficient vitality but what about your All Resist? To survive you would need a minimum of Vit, Armor, All Resist and of course enough DPS to not prolong fights. Why don't you link us your D3 profile for example mine
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Electro...69/hero/4323999 By seeing your profile and the items you have, we have a rough idea of what gear you have or what we can suggest to improve your gear.
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Feb 3 2013, 03:32 PM)
1st off, you have a long way to go but lets take it step by step. Most importantly is surviving mp0. How are you holding up or can you solo mp0? I see you have sufficient vitality but what about your All Resist? To survive you would need a minimum of Vit, Armor, All Resist and of course enough DPS to not prolong fights. Why don't you link us your D3 profile for example mine
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Electro...69/hero/4323999 By seeing your profile and the items you have, we have a rough idea of what gear you have or what we can suggest to improve your gear.
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I agree I have a looong way to go. hahaha. I'm @ act 2 now and surviving fine with the bow with +crit dmg and without life on hit / vit.
My resistance is somewhere about 250-350 for all. I'm still keeping the bow with life per hit because I'm scared I might not survive in act 3 sweat.gif I'm octoberfly#6667. my dh is there smile.gif

I'm trying to earn my own gear for my dh because my monk already got some decent gear to farm from nice lyn players so I'm not really looking for donations, just suggestions tongue.gif
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Yeah but the reason why we want to see your gear so that we could at least know whether you have sufficient resist, or cc or cd or AS. Not giving donations but we can't just ask you to upgrade this and that not knowing what you have right? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Feb 3 2013, 06:36 PM)
Yeah but the reason why we want to see your gear so that we could at least know whether you have sufficient resist, or cc or cd or AS. Not giving donations but we can't just ask you to upgrade this and that not knowing what you have right?  biggrin.gif
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not sure if you can see but http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/October...7/hero/21147530

Trying to find a decent belt now biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(OctoberFly @ Feb 3 2013, 07:16 PM)
not sure if you can see but http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/October...7/hero/21147530

Trying to find a decent belt now  biggrin.gif
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Well,if you are serious about the DH then just stick to the DH cuz DH gears are insanely expensive.

Now, what playing style do you want? xbow + DML? Calamity + DML? Calamity + D. Spite? Decide on that first before you do upgrades.

If you have not decided on your playing style, what you can do is upgrade your chest. Find a nice Embrace first. Actually, your chest is also related to your playing style la.

Embrace No.1
- DEX
- VIT
- DISC

Embrace No.2
- DEX
- VIT
- AR

The DEX and VIT roll can go either ways. More dex less vit or less dex more vit. You decide.

Now, which embrace you get depends on your CC, your weapon/weapons and your DML roll.

If you have high CC, NS is gonna proc enough and DISC might not be the priority here. OR, if you have DISC on your DML and decide you will stick with SoJ so u might wanna get an AR embrace.

I run with a DISC embrace because i prefer DISC over AR on the cloak. That's just my personal preference.
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QUOTE(2890 @ Feb 3 2013, 07:27 PM)
Well,if you are serious about the DH then just stick to the DH cuz DH gears are insanely expensive.

Now, what playing style do you want? xbow + DML? Calamity + DML? Calamity + D. Spite? Decide on that first before you do upgrades.

If you have not decided on your playing style, what you can do is upgrade your chest. Find a nice Embrace first. Actually, your chest is also related to your playing style la.

Embrace No.1
- DEX
- VIT
- DISC

Embrace No.2
- DEX
- VIT
- AR

The DEX and VIT roll can go either ways. More dex less vit or less dex more vit. You decide.

Now, which embrace you get depends on your CC, your weapon/weapons and your DML roll.

If you have high CC, NS is gonna proc enough and DISC might not be the priority here. OR, if you have DISC on your DML and decide you will stick with SoJ so u might wanna get an AR embrace.

I run with a DISC embrace because i prefer DISC over AR on the cloak. That's just my personal preference.
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okay.... so I can't farm eq for my DH using my monk?

I guess I would prefer to use 2 1h xbow but if I can't be sure sweat.gif

I guess I'll try to get embrace 2. say only easy rolleyes.gif dunno when only i'll get it lolol
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You wanna farm? sure you can but u gotta be very lucky. I've personally never found anything for my DH. Normally i get barbs stuff the most followed by wiz. Yeah sure once in a while something DEX related.
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Add me in game, I'll give you some items for DH, I got a few spare Embrace with me. One more thing I notice, none of your gear has crit chance except your bracers... now, if you have all those critical damage, how are you going to use it if you do not have enough crit chance? there lies one of the problems with your DPS. 2nd, it's ok if you want to dual wield crossbows but you need to have a fairly good pair of crossbows to duel wield. Those won't cut it. I suggest you use DML ( quiver ) pairing. There's a lot of advantages

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Feb 3 2013, 11:37 PM)
Add me in game, I'll give you some items for DH, I got a few spare Embrace with me. One more thing I notice, none of your gear has crit chance except your bracers... now, if you have all those critical damage, how are you going to use it if you do not have enough crit chance? there lies one of the problems with your DPS. 2nd, it's ok if you want to dual wield crossbows but you need to have a fairly good pair of crossbows to duel wield. Those won't cut it. I suggest you use DML ( quiver ) pairing. There's a lot of advantages

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okay.. i'll add you tomorrow >< I can't afford a dml yet sweat.gif guess i'll go reaaally slow. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Feb 3 2013, 11:37 PM)
Add me in game, I'll give you some items for DH, I got a few spare Embrace with me. One more thing I notice, none of your gear has crit chance except your bracers... now, if you have all those critical damage, how are you going to use it if you do not have enough crit chance? there lies one of the problems with your DPS. 2nd, it's ok if you want to dual wield crossbows but you need to have a fairly good pair of crossbows to duel wield. Those won't cut it. I suggest you use DML ( quiver ) pairing. There's a lot of advantages

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okay.. i'll add you tomorrow >< I can't afford a dml yet sweat.gif guess i'll go reaaally slow. nod.gif
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Guys,

What MP you guy do and what DPS do u do that MP at?

For those PL100 DH, still rolling your DH?
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Playing my barb sometimes but he's so badly geared at the moment. Finding upgrade for him with my DH at the moment. Also, trying to fill up 2 tabs of decent to good legendary and see ID them all at the same time.
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okay.. i'll add you tomorrow >< I can't afford a dml yet  sweat.gif  guess i'll go reaaally slow.  nod.gif
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take ur time everybody play at their own pace.. we don't get all these gears in one day smile.gif

btw once you are able to do mp0 with your dh you can try geared up with mf affix.. who knows maybe you'll get a nice imbaomfg dml so you dont need to 'afford' one? biggrin.gif


2890 didn't roll my barb where initially i thought i'll roll one once my dh reach 100. farming at mp4/5 casually. at least have to enjoy my p100 dh.. it's a waste if we stop playing after reaching 100 imo smile.gif

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I did some upgrade for my dh.. Hope fully can run mp4.. Lol
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/FE3DOE-6358/hero/28737461
Hopefully it is okay Atm.
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Looks ok your DH, mp4 sure can but you're going to take sometime to down the mobs. Have you tried already?
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Looks ok your DH, mp4 sure can but you're going to take sometime to down the mobs. Have you tried already?
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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Feb 4 2013, 11:55 AM)
take ur time everybody play at their own pace.. we don't get all these gears in one day smile.gif

btw once you are able to do mp0 with your dh you can try geared up with mf affix.. who knows maybe you'll get a nice imbaomfg dml so you dont need to 'afford' one? biggrin.gif
2890 didn't roll my barb where initially i thought i'll roll one once my dh reach 100. farming at mp4/5 casually. at least have to enjoy my p100 dh.. it's a waste if we stop playing after reaching 100 imo smile.gif
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Yeah true. maybe it's possible to get a dml but an imbaomfg rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif I wonder. I always hit and run... then let my templar die in vain laugh.gif
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everyone will have opportunity to loot god like loot..no matter it is use on ur own char or other char..
and sell at high price....so don worry ur luck will come..

oK the question is will u use the DML if u loot a imba/Godlike/OMG/Rofl DML or sell them to upgrade ur overall equipment..
let say :
3++ dex
3++ VIT
20% IAS
10CC
14% more damage hungering..

or sell them to upgrade ur overall equipment..






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If such DML exist, easily 500m man.
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500m I buy then and sell for 1.5bil
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500m I buy then and sell for 1.5bil
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Finally I can dye my fugly mempo and stupid looking vile ward
in 1.0.7

I can dye all my legs gear and make my DH naked...Fuhhhh nose bleed
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 4 2013, 05:38 PM)
everyone will have opportunity to loot god like loot..no matter it is use on ur own char or other char..
and sell at high price....so don worry ur luck will come..

oK the question is will u use the DML if u loot a imba/Godlike/OMG/Rofl DML or sell them to upgrade ur overall equipment..
let say :
3++ dex
3++ VIT
20% IAS
10CC
14% more damage hungering..

or sell them to upgrade ur overall equipment..
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my WD fren looted dis DML drool.gif

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since he dont hv a DH toon i tried my luck & offered him 50m + my current DML for that DML he looted biggrin.gif
he decided to keep it and rolled a DH instead tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Gecko @ Feb 4 2013, 10:13 PM)
my WD fren looted dis DML  drool.gif

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since he dont hv a DH toon i tried my luck & offered him 50m + my current DML for that DML he looted  biggrin.gif
he decided to keep it and rolled a DH instead  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Gecko @ Feb 4 2013, 10:13 PM)
my WD fren looted dis DML  drool.gif

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since he dont hv a DH toon i tried my luck & offered him 50m + my current DML for that DML he looted  biggrin.gif
he decided to keep it and rolled a DH instead  tongue.gif
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You over offer him tongue.gif should have rip him off with 5m
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Feb 5 2013, 08:40 AM)
You over offer him tongue.gif should have rip him off with 5m
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hahaha what to do .. i only hv 50m gold available biggrin.gif but my DML is not that bad .. lower vit, ias n bola skill than his tho tongue.gif i would hv thrown in a 1.2k dps cala if he wanted as well biggrin.gif

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let him roll a dh and see if he can tahan or not...lol
eventually he will sell it ...hahahha

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let him roll a dh and see if he can tahan or not...lol
eventually he will sell it ...hahahha
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he alrdy rolled a DH & i helped lvl up his DH to 60.. however i dont see him playing his DH so much as his WD .. he did promise me that he'll reserve the DML for me if he decide to sell ... just afraid i wont hv enough gold to buy haha
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QUOTE(Gecko @ Feb 5 2013, 11:32 AM)
he alrdy rolled a DH & i helped lvl up his DH to 60.. however i dont see him playing his DH so much as his WD .. he did promise me that he'll reserve the DML for me if he decide to sell ... just afraid i wont hv enough gold to buy haha
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don worry can loan u some..with special VVIP interest rate brows.gif brows.gif
flexi payment also provided with very low monthly interest rate brows.gif brows.gif


laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 5 2013, 11:58 AM)
don worry can loan u some..with special VVIP interest rate  brows.gif  brows.gif
flexi payment also provided with very low monthly interest rate brows.gif  brows.gif
laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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payment term lengthened by 10 years brows.gif laugh.gif ??
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Feb 5 2013, 12:08 PM)
payment term lengthened by 10 years brows.gif  laugh.gif ??
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can be arrange... brows.gif brows.gif

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Prosperity bow CNY around the corner
lai lai help me choose... laugh.gif
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Once you go forward you will go up to wealthiness /riches...
Yat Sang Lok Sang Fatt... sweat.gif
or

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Once you go forward the fortune awaits....
Yat Sang Fatt Fatt rclxms.gif
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1.2-1.3k dps Calamity with open socket .. lolz
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QUOTE(Gecko @ Feb 5 2013, 12:40 PM)
OR

1.2-1.3k dps Calamity with open socket .. lolz
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no money to go there yet....
Along business not stable yet....ppl complain my interest to high sweat.gif
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2890OH my....do u know u got dupe bow...hmmmm
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/inshyri...6/hero/12887008

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SwSw-2890/hero/3515351

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 5 2013, 04:29 PM)
yeah i know there's like 4 person on the entire Europe using similar manticore to me. Is okay.. i've seen 15 people using the same manticore also.
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Haizzz just lost 47m to flipping. Bad bad investment..
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What did you flip?
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omg that DML..epic VIT!
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anyone of u use nat legacy?
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I only have the legacy nat chest sad.gif the rest are expensive like f*** =.="
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What did you flip?
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12 lower end elemental arrow DML, 5 amulets and 3 inna pants. Sien..
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anyone of u use nat legacy?
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ic, ur dps can buff till 100k when using legacy?
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i see some good DH have over 250k dps with legacy Nat..
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boy do i have story for u guy
i was tryin to sell my bow in D3 trade chat
it was a manti
1331dps
180dex
76% cd
1 soc

then I post at the chat trade in D3 : wts for 90m
and all ppl in that chat room laughin at me that the bow can't sell that much
say this and that...
show me int roll sell 30m only lah...post there for 4 day still cannot sell lah..
so ok lo
I put AH lo....few min later kaching..sold at 95m...buhooo
then i go see their profile...Adoi...no wonder lah
their DH gear :palmface:
not to say mine is godlike but....haih...tengok muka kat cermin lah ..
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ic, ur dps can buff till 100k when using legacy?
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246k with the legacy.
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12 lower end elemental arrow DML, 5 amulets and 3 inna pants. Sien..
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Yeah, the risk of flipping. Either you make it or you don't. Ammys quite risky, hard to sell these days coz 1.07 can craft. Well, hopefully you get at least some small returns for it.
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 6 2013, 04:42 PM)
boy do i have story for u guy
i was tryin to sell my bow in D3 trade chat
it was a manti
1331dps
180dex
76% cd
1 soc

then I post at the chat trade in D3 : wts for 90m
and all ppl in that chat room laughin at me that the bow can't sell that much
say this and that...
show me int roll sell 30m only lah...post there for 4 day still cannot sell lah..
so ok lo
I put AH lo....few min later kaching..sold at 95m...buhooo
then i go see their profile...Adoi...no wonder lah
their DH gear :palmface:
not to say mine is godlike but....haih...tengok muka kat cermin lah ..
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Seriously, trade channel idiots are cheapskates with no understanding of value. If ppl want to prize it at 250M its up to them and non of their business. It's up to the buyer on whether they feel that the price is right. That's why sometimes i malas post in trade channel. Anything you post also they say mahal.
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Feb 6 2013, 07:44 PM)
Yeah, the risk of flipping. Either you make it or you don't. Ammys quite risky, hard to sell these days coz 1.07 can craft. Well, hopefully you get at least some small returns for it.
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^^...just another useless new or rather incremental update to Patch 1.0.6

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QUOTE(2890 @ Feb 6 2013, 07:47 PM)
eh is patch 1.0.7 live yet? my PTR char just got deleted.
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Not yet.. I think still long way to go before 1.07. Not sure about PTR, haven't PTR in a while.
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Sell alot of manti and WF
since they cannot be craft laugh.gif

even sell my own bow...now left 1 hand bow to farm mp1 thumbup.gif

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Sell alot of manti and WF
since they cannot be craft laugh.gif

even sell my own bow...now left 1 hand bow to farm mp1 thumbup.gif
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oh btw, that WF and Manticore, i think the WF is better.
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Nah businessman mode now....
sell while market is hot
everyone is equipin prepare for pvp

later market down then slowly hunt back the lost gear and get even cheaper

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 6 2013, 08:16 PM)
Nah businessman mode now....
sell while market is hot
everyone is equipin prepare for pvp

later market down then slowly hunt back the lost gear and get even cheaper
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haiz.. i tried doing some business end up rugi nia.

had 71m left and wasted 47mil. =(
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just like electro say..don go do ammy..all ppl wait to craft ammy
do weapon
sell DH bow lah
cause As a DH ourself we know what DH need..
not tryin to educate and i no pro flip but...
Yah do what u know best..
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 6 2013, 08:35 PM)
just like electro say..don go do ammy..all ppl wait to craft ammy
do weapon
sell DH bow lah
cause As a DH ourself we know what DH need..
not tryin to educate and i no pro flip but...
Yah do what u know best..
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Don underestimate the power of int 2 soc manti sweat.gif
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 6 2013, 09:20 PM)
Don underestimate the power of int 2 soc manti sweat.gif
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YES!!! I AGREE! biggrin.gif
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Don underestimate the power of int 2 soc manti sweat.gif
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yeah i agree. i saw a similar stats manti to mine but is 1348 DPS instead and is priced at 700m. So 190 dex is worth 1b. LOL
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 2 2013, 11:05 PM)
my ehp mode is
70khp
7++ AR
4+++armor (phail here)
170k dps... sad.gif

nah DH is phail char to begin with ...without gloom they are worth less laugh.gif
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I wonder what's your EHP (let's use D3UP) with such HP/AR/Armor?
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Feb 7 2013, 03:32 AM)
I wonder what's your EHP (let's use D3UP) with such HP/AR/Armor?
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Here u go http://d3up.com/b/129787 sweat.gif

use this setup for mp10..
can survive abit MD bus/bug spray
but compare to other tankier DH shocking.gif ..my setup is nothing sad.gif

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 7 2013, 09:09 AM)
Here u go http://d3up.com/b/129787  sweat.gif

use this setup for mp10..
can survive abit MD bus/bug spray
but compare to other tankier DH shocking.gif  ..my setup is nothing sad.gif
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Seriously, 555K EHP, many 200K DPS monks have lower EHP than yours.
Very well built. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Feb 7 2013, 09:56 AM)
Seriously, 555K EHP, many 200K DPS monks have lower EHP than yours.
Very well built.  thumbup.gif
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thank you ...thank you
monk alot tankier then DH
and not to forget 30%dmg reduce by default..and also they have alot of dmg reduce skill to mobs skill...
and also unseen dps buff...
I had a monk toon myself...and from 6+k dps my dps can go wooping to 12+k dps...in battle...that is 50% buff there...crazy.
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 7 2013, 10:27 AM)
thank you ...thank you
monk alot tankier then DH
and not to forget 30%dmg reduce by default..and also they have alot of dmg reduce skill to mobs skill...
and also unseen dps buff...
I had a monk toon myself...and from 6+k dps my dps can go wooping to 12+k dps...in battle...that is 50% buff there...crazy.
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yeah agree...60-70k dps Monk/Barbarian way better than 150k dps DH...
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finally sold my manticore that has been with most of my dh's life

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bought it at 120m, sold at 8m. deduct 15% tax, 6.8m sweat.gif

from a pretty decent one.. to a crap lol

thank you for growing along with me.. without you i wouldn't be where i am now.. you will be greatly missed smile.gif

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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Feb 7 2013, 12:19 PM)
finally sold my manticore that has been with most of my dh's life

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bought it at 120m, sold at 8m. deduct 15% tax, 6.8m sweat.gif

from a pretty decent one.. to a crap lol

thank you for growing along with me.. without you i wouldn't be where i am now.. you will be greatly missed smile.gif
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show ur new bow pls tongue.gif
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show ur new bow pls  tongue.gif
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my new bow is nothing also.. bought it cheap cause it's an int bow

u may check from my profile if you want smile.gif

and i noticed my int manti rolled nearly max dps without % damage affix
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 7 2013, 10:27 AM)
thank you ...thank you
monk alot tankier then DH
and not to forget 30%dmg reduce by default..and also they have alot of dmg reduce skill to mobs skill...
and also unseen dps buff...
I had a monk toon myself...and from 6+k dps my dps can go wooping to 12+k dps...in battle...that is 50% buff there...crazy.
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Honestly speaking, this is not quite true.

DH's gloom -35% damage & -15% GT are so OP.
Not to forget the insane LS% from gloom.

Speaking of damage, 50% buff is more of paper dps.
If you refer to the Ghom@MP10 benchmark that we did, you can see the real damage per second of both monk and dh is quite close.

Those tanky monk & barb have much higher EHP, at least 600K to millions EHP.


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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Feb 7 2013, 12:18 PM)
yeah agree...60-70k dps Monk/Barbarian way better than 150k dps DH...
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In order to tank, DH must use fast weapon like Calamity.
And combo with GT + perma-gloom.
I find DH can really tank too @ MP10.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Feb 7 2013, 01:59 PM)
Honestly speaking, this is not quite true.

DH's gloom -35% damage & -15% GT are so OP.
Not to forget the insane LS% from gloom.

Speaking of damage, 50% buff is more of paper dps.
If you refer to the Ghom@MP10 benchmark that we did, you can see the real damage per second of both monk and dh is quite close.

Those tanky monk & barb have much higher EHP, at least 600K to millions EHP.
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GT is not that good cuz I want to be mobile and stutter stepping instead of face tanking. If I wanna hold left click, I'll play a monk.

Ghom ain't a proper benchmark and I'm too lazy to explain why. But yes gloom is indeed OP.


QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Feb 7 2013, 02:01 PM)
In order to tank, DH must use fast weapon like Calamity.
And combo with GT + perma-gloom.
I find DH can really tank too @ MP10.
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In order to tank, DH needs hard hitting weapon not fast weapon. In order to kite, DH needs fast weapon. Again, to perma gloom, it does not mean fast weapon. I run 40/50 disc on high MP ad I don't have disc problem to gloom. What matters more is crit chance which procs NS better and yeah faster weapon procs NS better but faster weapon also means lesser damage and longer fights.

My two cents.
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Hi, wondering is there anyone interested to swap your DH with my Monk.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2697249
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Roll a barb
don roll DH...u need to sell ur kidney for the gear.
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 7 2013, 05:24 PM)
Roll a barb
don roll DH...u need to sell ur kidney for the gear.
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oh, Barb is kinda a end game hero and able to solo mp10 rite ?
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QUOTE(Gen @ Feb 7 2013, 06:39 PM)
oh, Barb is kinda a end game hero and able to solo mp10 rite ?
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DH is the hero when get 1 hit from mp10 mobs and die cry.gif

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oh, Barb is kinda a end game hero and able to solo mp10 rite ?
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fellow Dhs, about All Resistance and Vitality, which one more important?
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 7 2013, 05:24 PM)
u need to sell ur kidney for the gear.
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QUOTE(denon91 @ Feb 7 2013, 08:32 PM)
fellow Dhs, about All Resistance and Vitality, which one more important?
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10000:1000:100
10000hp:1000armor:100AR

exp
40000hp
4000armor
400AR

more the better thumbup.gif

they are equally important

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QUOTE(Gen @ Feb 7 2013, 03:25 PM)
Hi, wondering is there anyone interested to swap your DH with my Monk.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2697249
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i advise u don give up on Monk yet.. just do like me, spent several millions, re-use monk gear on DH... DH nice to play but like other says, expensive...

@@ I onli MP0/Public game/ MP1 DH btw.. biggrin.gif

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Bunch of us did MP10 Belial just now. We had justttt enough dps to kill him before enraging. Took us many tries to kill him lol.


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I die at the end...lol...
just tryin my luck and shoot with all i got...
cause i see his HP low de..so RAMBO mode...
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the onli boss that i cant beat on MP10 yet.. damn poison..
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Agreed with Sabenarian,

DH required many $$ to geared.
Nat ring + boot = $$$$ cry.gif
Witching Hour = $$$$$$ cry.gif cry.gif
Lacuni = $$$ cry.gif
Manticore = $$$$$$ cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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funny thing is when i rolling DH, the drops always for Barb.
may be Blizzard already set more drop on gears for Barb. vmad.gif
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and when I roll barb.. I get a lot of DH stuff.. nats and a lot of crap bows like hellrack
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looks like barb and DH are meant for each other

I already looted IK whole set de
1 chest
3 belt
2 helm
1 glove..in stash rotten (perkasam)

other all sold de whistling.gif

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 8 2013, 05:35 PM)
looks like barb and DH are meant for each other

I already looted IK whole set de
1 chest
3 belt
2 helm
1 glove..in stash rotten (perkasam)

other all sold de whistling.gif
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nice.. i still wait IK chest to drop.. damn blizzard don want give me yet.. mempo also..
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 8 2013, 05:35 PM)
looks like barb and DH are meant for each other

I already looted IK whole set de
1 chest
3 belt
2 helm
1 glove..in stash rotten (perkasam)

other all sold de whistling.gif
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what about boot? 2-handed mighty wpn? tongue.gif

the only set i've yet to complete thru drops are Backthorne (chest piece & ammy) n Inna (chest piece)
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QUOTE(Gecko @ Feb 8 2013, 05:44 PM)
what about boot? 2-handed mighty wpn?  tongue.gif

the only set i've yet to complete thru drops are Backthorne (chest piece & ammy) n Inna (chest piece)
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mightty weapon can brim lah....real barb use skorn lol
see then carry the IK weapon look like flag man...

boot ho...ok take back my word... tongue.gif

DH i only loot
2 helm (sold 1 )
1 cloak in stash rotten also (tempoyak)


other gear all loan from AH... sweat.gif

Sabenarian
belip or not in 2 day i loot 3 mempo...lol
one mempo sold quite high
235 str i think (told u DH and Barb are menat for each other) sweat.gif
i even loot str TWH doh.gif

check out my WD laugh.gif

I think what we can do is swap unid gear among ourself
say u loot Nat item and i loot IK item ..we swap lah laugh.gif

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So far me also full of other class items... pshhh.. the only thing i have currently is 3 calamity's unid which is DH. Got 1 mempo, 1 IK Chest set, bul khatos and a whole bunch of WD and WIz stuff... I think yeah.. we can trade among ourselves if other class item. ID part is all down to luck.

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Yeah i found a barb vile ward.

248 STR, 86 VIT and 80 AR. Harap harap give me some gold la. I damn broke lately.
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Hi DHs,

anyone here using a Buriz scoundrel with azkaranth?
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Hi DHs,

anyone here using a Buriz scoundrel with azkaranth?
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Yup ^
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fellow Dhs, about All Resistance and Vitality, which one more important?
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Yup ^
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is only worth on high MPs right? cuz on low MP we don't use cull the weak. or am i wrong???
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is only worth on high MPs right? cuz on low MP we don't use cull the weak. or am i wrong???
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My solo farming has only been on MP0, for high MP I tend to coop. The follower's freeze has a little bit of utility, but not all that much. Like freezing lasher elites so they don't run about so much, or freezing ghouls so they don't break your town portal spell laugh.gif
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Feb 11 2013, 05:04 PM)
My solo farming has only been on MP0, for high MP I tend to coop. The follower's freeze has a little bit of utility, but not all that much. Like freezing lasher elites so they don't run about so much, or freezing ghouls so they don't break your town portal spell laugh.gif
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i see.. well i wanted to utilize cull the weak passive on high MPs so i thought buriz scoundrel might be good..
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sold my Manti for 84.5m... lucky still worth that much. biggrin.gif .. bought it for 72m 2-3 weeks ago...lose a bit gold.. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Feb 12 2013, 12:47 AM)
sold my Manti for 84.5m... lucky still worth that much. biggrin.gif .. bought it for 72m 2-3 weeks ago...lose a bit gold.. tongue.gif

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I'm surprised actually. I sold mine with 1109 dps with LS for 150M.. that was a month back if i'm not mistaken. I guess the price dropped quite drastically.
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yo deckard, your manti is awesome man. How much was it?

i made a comparison with mine. i lose 6k DPS with yours BUT i think yours is way way cheaper right? i feel ripped off!!!!
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Feb 12 2013, 01:31 AM)
I'm surprised actually. I sold mine with 1109 dps with LS for 150M.. that was a month back if i'm not mistaken. I guess the price dropped quite drastically.
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QUOTE(2890 @ Feb 12 2013, 01:42 AM)
yo deckard, your manti is awesome man. How much was it?

i made a comparison with mine. i lose 6k DPS with yours BUT i think yours is way way cheaper right? i feel ripped off!!!!
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Actually i didn't spend a single dime.. i bought a UNID for 11M and that was my lottery. LUL biggrin.gif . Its one of those super lucky roll with crazy high dps... its not something everyone gets so you're money is not wasted. What are the chances of rolling such a high dps mantis? If i didn't get this one, I would've spend the same amount of gold you did to get one with about the same DPS as yours.
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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Feb 12 2013, 01:44 AM)
too much dupe i guess.. biggrin.gif  all aim for 2 socket manti now..
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Feb 12 2013, 01:47 AM)
yeah, i think the dupes really killed a the market. Also with marquise ruby coming soon, everyone's getting a dual soc manti so they could slot in 1 ruby and 1 emerald. hehe
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thats why i fast fast sell that manti...later sure no value..onli using 2m Calamity now for public game.. tongue.gif
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Yah been doin trading on 2 soc int manti also
that's why i say "Don underestimate the power of int manti"....lol

not all ppl have billion gold in their stash...and dump one or two billion to just buy 1 gear..
so majority ppl will look for other stuff..

that's where int 2 soc manti come in... icon_rolleyes.gif

credit to Dragonslayer for opening my eye.. thumbup.gif
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yeah...Dex onli give small DPS... as long as DPS and CD is high, non Dex Manti also good..

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1 DEX gives me 93.54 DPS. I don't think the DPS from say 190 dex is small la..
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NO larr.. Dex definitely gives a big boost to dps. My mantis comes with high dps hence giving me a super dps boost even with intel stats. Furthermore, it's cheaper compared to the dex ones.
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Feb 12 2013, 03:18 AM)
NO larr.. Dex definitely gives a big boost to dps. My mantis comes with high dps hence giving me a super dps boost even with intel stats. Furthermore, it's cheaper compared to the dex ones.
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QUOTE(2890 @ Feb 12 2013, 03:20 AM)
i realize one thing with mantis.. The ones with higher min dmg is better.
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I never noticed it. Anyways, besides mantis, I still got a ton of upgrades to go... 1 at a time i guess.
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Feb 12 2013, 03:44 AM)
I never noticed it. Anyways, besides mantis, I still got a ton of upgrades to go... 1 at a time i guess.
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yeah im getting more consistent dmg ouput with hatred spenders now.

so the higher the min the better and sometimes say 1322 dps has 830 min, and 1310 has 870 min, the later is better..
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Feb 12 2013, 03:18 AM)
NO larr.. Dex definitely gives a big boost to dps. My mantis comes with high dps hence giving me a super dps boost even with intel stats. Furthermore, it's cheaper compared to the dex ones.
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+1... like my Barbarian weapon now.. my Main hand don have STR, but it boost my dps like 7k from my previous weapon (9xx dps + STR and Vit).. so i use it... if Str mace price insanely high for that kind of DPS..

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Hi DHs,

anyone here using a Buriz scoundrel with azkaranth?
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wow just got my scoundrel a buriza and saw ur question
yeah recently I was playing solo most of the time, so thinking to utilize my followers
got a buriza with 11.7 freeze only, the result was quite awesome

I'm doing mp4 run most of the time, yeah the freeze isn't significant on trash mobs, but is good for elites using spiked traps.

stacked scoundrel amulets with AS and LOH (>2000), and I noticed he won't die most of the time (other than fallen maniacs), thus able to use blind skill instead of hide-and-self-heal skill

didn't buy star of az, too expensive to spend on followers. ~13 freeze is pretty sufficient imo

btw, any cold dmg bow will activate cull the weak passive right? going for buriza to activate is expensive.. unless wanna fully utilize it, try higher % pierce instead (with lower % freeze, if money is a probl.... wait)

still trying to boost my scoundrel ehp.. any suggestion? strength?

QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 12 2013, 02:03 AM)
credit to Dragonslayer for opening my eye.. thumbup.gif
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er.. what did I do?

I should thank you for opening my eyes.. for int manti.. and that % dmg affix (where higher % dmg affix gives higher dps if socket with ruby)


QUOTE(2890 @ Feb 12 2013, 03:46 AM)
yeah im getting more consistent dmg ouput with hatred spenders now.

so the higher the min the better and sometimes say 1322 dps has 830 min, and 1310 has 870 min, the later is better..
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good point there. I also value avg dmg too.. say 1322dps has 1000 avg dmg, 1310 has 1030, I prefer the later one cause higher black dmg

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i put vit kaw kaw on my follower...so now normally i die 1st..hahaha
especially my enchantress ..
got around 10k vit...lol

just pump their vit
no need put AR crap on them...
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2 soc manticore, 1 insert ruby and 1 insert emerald, is it good? I saw top DPS players use it. 1300++ manti became 1500++ manti. wow!
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Guys, appreciate your advise on the best@recommended attack speed when using Manti or Cala.. DH noobie here.. =_=
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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Feb 15 2013, 09:25 AM)
Guys, appreciate your advise on the best@recommended attack speed when using Manti or Cala.. DH noobie here.. =_=
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As many as you can stack. It's something good to have.
The more the merrier.

Perhaps 2.0 for manticore.
And 3.0 for calamity.

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QUOTE(trunksku @ Feb 14 2013, 01:32 PM)
2 soc manticore, 1 insert ruby and 1 insert emerald, is it good? I saw top DPS players use it. 1300++ manti became 1500++ manti. wow!
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Last I checked, this combo gives a better paper dps for my build.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Feb 15 2013, 09:31 AM)
As many as you can stack. It's something good to have.
The more the merrier.
 
Perhaps 2.0 for manticore.
And 3.0 for calamity.
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aa.. thanks. i'm trying to balance up on the APS and DPS. i wish had more gold to buy 1.1-1.2k Cala with OS sweat.gif doh.gif .. hahaha
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Feb 15 2013, 09:32 AM)
Last I checked, this combo gives a better paper dps for my build.
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what if you already got high base CC% (example 50%) w/o SS? isn't that you would want to crit higher?
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what if you already got high base CC% (example 50%) w/o SS? isn't that you would want to crit higher?
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High CD is certainly welcome. A good thing to have.

As far as paper dps is concerned, marquise ruby + emerald combo on 2-socket manti does give higher dps for my build. I think paper dps does take CD into account.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Feb 15 2013, 11:32 AM)
High CD is certainly welcome. A good thing to have.

As far as paper dps is concerned, marquise ruby + emerald combo on 2-socket manti does give higher dps for my build. I think paper dps does take CD into account.
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u crafted marquis gem ? blink.gif
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u crafted marquis gem ?  blink.gif
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Already got the plan. But have not crafted one yet.
I use D3UP to simulate.
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why when i using caltrops - bait the trap it only +5CC
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Man, cluster grenades and chain of torments sentry proc like a beast!

In this video I'm using
- Passives: Nightstalker, Cull The Weak, Custom Engineering
- Gloom
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- Caltrops: Bait the trap
- Cluster Grenades
- Spiked Trap: Echoing Blast


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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Feb 15 2013, 12:39 PM)
u crafted marquis gem ?  blink.gif
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I was craft marquise emerald for my barb increase dps 3k only lol.. but very expensive at the moment... labour cost me 20m....
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I just made my 1st marquise ruby and socketed it into my manticore. Got a whopping 12k dps and my damage on bow from 1370 to now 1660.... Considering my next upgrade will cost me xxxM just to get less then 10k dps, this is definitely worth it. Ball of lightning now critting at 250k, it's just madness.

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Feb 16 2013, 05:56 PM)
Man, cluster grenades and chain of torments sentry proc like a beast!

In this video I'm using
- Passives: Nightstalker, Cull The Weak, Custom Engineering
- Gloom
- Sentry COT
- M4D Mortal Enemy
- Caltrops: Bait the trap
- Cluster Grenades
- Spiked Trap: Echoing Blast


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hehehe been using those skill to farm mp10 solo...
I like m4d rune grim reaper due to its wide area and cover the grenade firing...wipe up mobs much faster...
firecraker podewin...hapi cny...

for my follower I use wf and soj cold dmg..
they shoot really fast and see the mobs knockback and move slowly towards you due to cold dmg...
try it..
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So 1 ruby + 1 emerald combo is better than 2 emerald combo?
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QUOTE(2890 @ Feb 16 2013, 09:48 PM)
So 1 ruby + 1 emerald combo is better than 2 emerald combo?
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Yes, if I'm not mistaken, you'd gain 8-10K DPS.
You can use D3UP to simulate.

I bought a cheapo 2-slot INT manticore today, my increase by 11K DPS. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Feb 16 2013, 11:20 PM)
Yes, if I'm not mistaken, you'd gain 8-10K DPS.
You can use D3UP to simulate.

I bought a cheapo 2-slot INT manticore today, my increase by 11K DPS.  laugh.gif
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I tried and 1 ruby 1 emerald make me lose DPS. weird
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I tried and 1 ruby 1 emerald make me lose DPS. weird
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eh? Did you try marquise ruby?
It should give you nice dps increase.

I also bought a calamity with socket.
Calamity with marquise ruby is so freaking cool. Awesome damage with bola + excellent survivability (just like using cluster grenades nod.gif ). Calamity is so so imba.
I'm seriously thinking to drop manticore for calamity.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Feb 16 2013, 11:41 PM)
eh? Did you try marquise ruby?
It should give you nice dps increase.

I also bought a calamity with socket.
Calamity with marquise ruby is so freaking cool. Awesome damage with bola + excellent survivability (just like using cluster grenades  nod.gif ). Calamity is so so imba.
I'm seriously thinking to drop manticore for calamity.
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Yes I did.. Okay my manti DMg is 894-1247. With marquise ruby it is 894+160 and 1247+160 right?
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Yes I did.. Okay my manti DMg is 894-1247. With marquise ruby it is 894+160 and 1247+160 right?
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No.

I didn't do detailed study on this.
I just observe the damage gain from my manti and calamity with marquise ruby.

Calculation is something like this.

Assuming your Manti has 40% damage.
So, you get from marquise ruby, 160 + 40% = 224
Min damage, 894 + 224 = 1118
Max damage, 1247 + 224 = 1471

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Find it kind of weird that you lose DPS with marquise ruby.
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LOL i did not. I forget the bonus dmg percentage.

I gain 22k with marquise ruby + marquise emerald

I gain 10k with 2 x marquise ruby.

Im gonna go test it against mobs now.
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Meh sucks.. is just paper DPS.
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I feel that it works for me with 1 ruby 1 emerald. There's a big damage buff to skills that is based of weapon damage.
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150 ammys crafted and still nothing decent.. sigh..
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ammy and glove is the hardest to craft cause they have alot of possible affix
try craft shoulder(don have cc,cd,ias,LOH,LS and etc) ...less affix can get nice one really fast...

PS: I found that RS ruby is more worth the gold per dps
RS ruby cost avg 24m per pc = I gain 5.6k dps
M ruby cost (24m x 3 )+ 20m to craft = I gain 12.7 dps

92m for 7.1 dps different... doh.gif
me no rich boy ..... sad.gif

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 17 2013, 10:57 AM)
ammy and glove is the hardest to craft cause they have alot of possible affix
try craft shoulder(don have cc,cd,ias,LOH,LS and etc) ...less affix can get nice one really fast...

PS: I found that RS ruby is more worth the gold per dps
RS ruby cost avg 24m per pc = I gain 5.6k dps
M ruby cost (24m x 3 )+ 20m to craft = I gain 12.7 dps

92m for 7.1 dps different... doh.gif
me no rich boy ..... sad.gif
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Its memang mahal but I thought to myself, might as well do it once and for all... Just one time spend then ok. How do you feel about socketing the ruby? Do you see a big difference?
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ok la...can see small boost....
and i don go for dps much ...i more leaning towards ehp
cause i try to get my DH kill in mp10 lately...kinda addicted de...
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Man the game got harder is it? I'm having problems on MP8 now.

The new reflect is just stupid.. Old reflect i can just whack non stop, now i gotta wait cause reflecting way more than the old one..

Damn retarded now la..
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Man the game got harder is it? I'm having problems on MP8 now.

The new reflect is just stupid.. Old reflect i can just whack non stop, now i gotta wait cause reflecting way more than the old one..

Damn retarded now la..
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I know plague is damn painful but reflect still ok ler.. i just gloom no matter. Other then that, everything still feels the same
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The new reflect is better. The mobs phase their damage reflection at different times, so you almost always have something to life steal off.
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not all skill are meant to be use in high mp

you not goin to kite those mobs

try sifu wKkay skill build...saw him tank like barb thumbup.gif

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try sifu wKkay skill build...saw him tank like barb thumbup.gif
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Right now I die way more often than you ok laugh.gif Remember the blazing guardians yesterday?

I need to find space in my skill bar for vault. It's a lifesaver.
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Okay got a noob question. How do u get Amulet of Dex plan? bosses?

And one more thing, i was testing 1 M ruby + 1 M emerald to 2 RS emerald. I figured 20% CHD aint gonna be THAT much.

My findings were
1 ruby 1 emerald (both marquise) with elemental arrow, the damage is slightly higher than 2 RS emerald. (like 20k higher). So is 20% crit damage going to beat that? I wish I could test it.

Then, i tried Clusters with 1 ruby 1 emerald, i'm doing like 100k more as my max went over 1mil when i could barely hit 900k with 2 RS emeralds. Again, I wish i could test it with 2 M emeralds.

so long story short, i'm still confuse =D
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not all skill are meant to be use in high mp

you not goin to kite those mobs

try sifu wKkay skill build...saw him tank like barb thumbup.gif
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something wrong with my skill choice?
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QUOTE(2890 @ Feb 17 2013, 04:40 PM)
Man the game got harder is it? I'm having problems on MP8 now.

The new reflect is just stupid.. Old reflect i can just whack non stop, now i gotta wait cause reflecting way more than the old one..

Damn retarded now la..
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ya stupid for melee... make my screen look so cluttered.. die few times Bcos can't see em freeze bombs
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QUOTE(2890 @ Feb 17 2013, 07:40 PM)
Okay got a noob question. How do u get Amulet of Dex plan? bosses?

And one more thing, i was testing 1 M ruby + 1 M emerald to 2 RS emerald. I figured 20% CHD aint gonna be THAT much.

My findings were
1 ruby 1 emerald (both marquise) with elemental arrow, the damage is slightly higher than 2 RS emerald. (like 20k higher). So is 20% crit damage going to beat that? I wish I could test it.

Then, i tried Clusters with 1 ruby 1 emerald, i'm doing like 100k more as my max went over 1mil when i could barely hit 900k with 2 RS emeralds. Again, I wish i could test it with 2 M emeralds.

so long story short, i'm still confuse =D
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You very rich arrrr.. unsocket cost 5M each time tongue.gif
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You very rich arrrr.. unsocket cost 5M each time  tongue.gif
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no la i didn't unsocket. I have a figure of how much EA damage is with 2 RS emeralds..
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anyone crafted any ube dex amulet yet?
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oh i found my problem with MP8 already. I ran it without NS passive. =D

Oh btw, what you guys think of patch 1.07?

i for one bloody hate plague now. I wanted to drop some EHP to gain more DPS but now, blehhhhh....

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QUOTE(2890 @ Feb 18 2013, 03:17 AM)
oh i found my problem with MP8 already. I ran it without NS passive. =D

Oh btw, what you guys think of patch 1.07?

i for one bloody hate plague now. I wanted to drop some EHP to gain more DPS but now, blehhhhh....
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you are not the only 1 suffering from plague LOL

my wiz and barb oso damn scared of being jailed/frozen while standing on plague.

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Any calamity user with marquise ruby?

The dps boost (with ruby) on calamity is way higher than manticore.
And the damage is nice on calamity now.
Plus the fast attack speed & extreme rapid explosion with bola, i just love this now. wub.gif

P/S Quick test. Ghom @ MP10, took me 1min 40sec (100 seconds). Just bola + echoing blast.
I would have got better score if I slotted in another offensive skill.

P/S Used Andariel's Visage. That tells you I dropped alot of EHP.
However, the survivability is much much better @ MP10 key run. Just very awesome.

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Any calamity user with marquise ruby?

The dps boost (with ruby) on calamity is way higher than manticore.
And the damage is nice on calamity now.
Plus the fast attack speed & extreme rapid explosion with bola, i just love this now.  wub.gif

P/S Quick test. Ghom @ MP10, took me 1min 40sec (100 seconds). Just bola + echoing blast.
I would have got better score if I slotted in another offensive skill.

P/S Used Andariel's Visage. That tells you I dropped alot of EHP.
However, the survivability is much much better @ MP10 key run. Just very awesome.
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I have calamity but only 1075 dps.. haven't tried it yet on my Cal. Very painful to spend 5M just to unsocket it from my manticore.
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Feb 18 2013, 11:49 AM)
I have calamity but only 1075 dps.. haven't tried it yet on my Cal. Very painful to spend 5M just to unsocket it from my manticore.
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Not worth it for your case in terms of DPS/damage output.
This is because your 1075DPS calamity can't beat your 1370DPS Manti.

For my case, i have a 1170DPS calamity and 1183 Manti. Quite similar dps rated weapon.
With ruby, my calamity and manti turn to 1592DPS and 1460DPS respectively.
I can see calamity can have good damage output.

However, you can test it to find out the awesomeness of survivability with calamity, without the marquise ruby. laugh.gif
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Yeah, I'm itching to see how much of a buff it is on calamity. I really enjoy using calamity. The AS is just awesome but wouldn't you have to subtitute other gears with CD for the loss of 100% CD from emerald?
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Feb 18 2013, 12:15 PM)
Yeah, I'm itching to see how much of a buff it is on calamity. I really enjoy using calamity. The AS is just awesome but wouldn't you have to subtitute other gears with CD for the loss of 100% CD from emerald?
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To sacrifice additional 100% CD or not, I think it's just paper dps.
My concern is the real damage instead of paper dps.
So I used ghom@MP10 as benchmark.

My Manti gives more paper DPS, 211K DPS (took 125 seconds to kill Ghom) .
My Calamity only has 200K DPS (100 seconds to kill Ghom).

But it seems the Calamity can kill a lot faster than my Manti.
Plus, better survivability.
I think it is good replacement.
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Finally after 200 tries.. I crafted a decent ammy :

Max Dmg 21
Dex 225
CD 94
CC 10.0
Armor 323
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Feb 18 2013, 05:20 PM)
Finally after 200 tries.. I crafted a decent ammy :

Max Dmg 21
Dex 225
CD 94
CC 10.0
Armor 323
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wahhhh congrat rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif
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Thanks thanks.. so depressed already after so many times trying.. finally something decent. Now want to concentrate on bracers then later go back to amulet again. Want to get the trifecta drool.gif Btw, this ammy make me lose 50 AR which i'm not very happy with. Instead i gain 20k dps.. still feel not worth it.
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I was goin to say that ur ehp goin to drop but
might as well let you be happy in what u craft 1st..
then worry later laugh.gif

for now i think i had enough on crafting..
try to collect mats as much as i can.
my tome run low de..so stop crafting.. sweat.gif

PS saw my friend pauldrons
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120 vit
75 AR
mouth watering de drool.gif drool.gif

and his bracer
305 dex
80 vit
60 poison resist
cc 5.5%
head banging shocking.gif shocking.gif
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 18 2013, 08:44 PM)
I was goin to say that ur ehp goin to drop but
might as well let you be happy in what u craft 1st..
then worry later  laugh.gif

for now i think i had enough on crafting..
try to collect mats as much as i can.
my tome run low de..so stop crafting.. sweat.gif

PS saw my friend pauldrons
310 dex
120 vit
75 AR
mouth watering de drool.gif  drool.gif

and his bracer
305 dex
80 vit
60 poison resist
cc 5.5%
head banging  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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Yeah that's my plan. To craft for high vit shoulder and bracers.. not sure bracers can or not as my current one has 140 vit on it.. I'm considering getting a ring with AR and Vit which i saw costs about 50M. can definitely cover a lot of eHP for me and it also comes with 170Dex on the ring so it's a pretty good deal. My shoulder definitely can get lots of vit as the one I have is a very old one and has no vit. So In terms of vit, there's lots more gear that I can add with vit but at the moment, I'm going to craft shoulder and bracers till i get the one i'm satisfied with. Once done then I'll go back to amulet again. Btw, you need tome for upgrading jewel is it? I think the rest no need tome right?
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Feb 18 2013, 10:53 PM)
Yeah that's my plan. To craft for high vit shoulder and bracers.. not sure bracers can or not as my current one has 140 vit on it.. I'm considering getting a ring with AR and Vit which i saw costs about 50M. can definitely cover a lot of eHP for me and it also comes with 170Dex on the ring so it's a pretty good deal. My shoulder definitely can get lots of vit as the one I have is a very old one and has no vit. So In terms of vit, there's lots more gear that I can add with vit but at the moment, I'm going to craft shoulder and bracers till i get the one i'm satisfied with. Once done then I'll go back to amulet again. Btw, you need tome for upgrading jewel is it? I think the rest no need tome right?
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Crafting need ToS as well (xcept for ammy)
Razorspikes & Gloves - 5 ToS per craft
Pauldrons - 10 ToS per craft
Lucky i stock up on ToS pre-1.07 biggrin.gif price of ToS in AH keep climbing up up n away tongue.gif
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ammy no need tome but craft gem need tome
u need perfect square to craft ammy
so to craft a perfect square u need tome

unless u buy those from perfect square from AH

try to consider to craft vit gear
who knows maybe it came out good sweat.gif

for me ,i go for
vit ammy (affix ...AR,CC,CD...little dex...avg dmg would be a bonus laugh.gif )
dex pauldrons (affix AR,armor if can,some vit)
dex bracer...(affix cc6%,AR ,some vit)

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saw a demon hunter using a skill where it keeps exploding with a big ass blast with some fancy big chinese or japanese word coming out everytime when the skill explode. What skill is that, legolases?
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Feb 19 2013, 08:39 AM)
saw a demon hunter using a skill where it keeps exploding with a big ass blast with some fancy big chinese or japanese word coming out everytime when the skill explode. What skill is that, legolases?
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Marked for death? hmm.gif
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Marked for death?  hmm.gif
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Hmmm not sure. All i know, each explosion will come out the same 'word'. It's a big ass explosion though.

Maybe its a combination of skills?
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Feb 19 2013, 09:10 AM)
Hmmm not sure. All i know, each explosion will come out the same 'word'. It's a big ass explosion though.

Maybe its a combination of skills?
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I think it's 2 different skill.

Is this the "word"?
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/class/demon-hun...arked-for-death
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Feb 19 2013, 09:14 AM)
I think it's 2 different skill.

Is this the "word"?
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/class/demon-hun...arked-for-death
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Yeah that's the word! But the word is amplified into a large one as an explosion occurs. If im not mistaken, the user is using a hand crossbow. Not sure if that helps....
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Yeah that's the word! But the word is amplified into a large one as an explosion occurs. If im not mistaken, the user is using a hand crossbow. Not sure if that helps....
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Marked for death is to mark the enemy or area (depends on which rune you use) so that additional damage taken by the target.

Explosion, it could be skills like spike trap, bola shot or grenades.

It's combination of 2-3 skills.
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Marked for death is to mark the enemy or area (depends on which rune you use) so that additional damage taken by the target.

Explosion, it could be skills like spike trap, bola shot or grenades.

It's combination of 2-3 skills.
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I see, so i guess one of the skills amplify the font of the marked for death's word.

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try multishot rune full broadside
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cold dmg soj
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cull the weak..
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m4d

wicked effect...
my new farm combo...

follower
bow
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cold dmg soj

shot faster then buriza...see mobs move in slowmo...

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Got nothing to do, so i upload video. laugh.gif

I used andariel's visage, resulted dropped of EHP by 70k+.
HP and discipline are managed in proper manner nonetheless.
Preparation was not even used.
Just bola + echoing blast.
1:45 (105sec). Slight longer than my previous test.
The difference could be the (frequency) proc of marked for death and CD.
It's still better than my 1476DPS Manti (with marquise ruby + radiant emerald).



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I see 400k-500k numbers. Imminent doom or Spike?
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Not a single fart was given that day...
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Not a single fart was given that day...
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yeah i notice that too. what's the trick?
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Not sure mayn. You're the demon hunter l33t.

My only character is wiz. Even with frosty build, GHOM will find a way to fart.
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QUOTE(2890 @ Feb 19 2013, 09:04 PM)
yeah i notice that too. what's the trick?
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i think aleune low down graphic taty no fart ... laugh.gif
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cold dmg soj...lol
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Not a single fart was given that day...
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Graphics bug? His HP still goes down.
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i think aleune low down graphic taty no fart ...  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Feb 19 2013, 09:17 PM)
Graphics bug? His HP still goes down.
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Well you know what they say...

Silent fart is the most dangerous one

oh waiiii
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what is the max cc for DH w/o SS?
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I see 400k-500k numbers. Imminent doom or Spike?
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I see frequent 300K-350K damage on white mobs with bola.
With +29% elites from SoJ, I think both.
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Not a single fart was given that day...
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Yeah, didn't notice it. hmmm... hmm.gif
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cold dmg soj...lol
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I use fire damage SoJ.
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Graphics bug? His HP still goes down.
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Yes, my HP drained. It could be graphic bug.
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Yeah, didn't notice it. hmmm...  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Feb 19 2013, 11:47 PM)
No, it's set at highest graphic details @ 1920x1080
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wah DH damn OP man for PvP.

Smoke Screen is da bomb!

I wonder how the other classes can cope with this tongue.gif
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what is the max cc for DH w/o SS?
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http://www.diabloprogress.com/rating.stat_crit_chance
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/thestig...4/hero/25664770

double nat set and beckon sail.. who would've use that?

72% comes from max gears, with archery and bait the trap, you get 20%, plus default 5%, total 97%

whoa.. i didn't know can go that high too
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every atk is yelo

yesterday night right after maintenance around 1.00am
there I was doin my routine , sweeping keep1 floor
suddenly ...yellow amulet drop...
so i went back with my high hope and happiness

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and without looking back i go back to keep2
mopping the vase floor there
then suddenly ...yellow ring drop..
again i went back with smile in my face

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Very very nice! If you roll barb, ur amulet is covered already!
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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Feb 20 2013, 10:52 AM)
http://www.diabloprogress.com/rating.stat_crit_chance
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/thestig...4/hero/25664770

double nat set and beckon sail.. who would've use that?

72% comes from max gears, with archery and bait the trap, you get 20%, plus default 5%, total 97%

whoa.. i didn't know can go that high too
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but dps only 20k.. take 5mins to kill an elite in mp0? ROFL
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LOL man.. I did 10 alkaizer runs at MP 8 for plans. Ending it with Azmodan cuz i thought fat ass drops plans. Check check, he doesn't.. aduhhh

and btw, the new RD is just stupid man. I pop gloom, drop 3 LfB or Spike n i'm dead.
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QUOTE(2890 @ Feb 20 2013, 11:21 PM)
LOL man.. I did 10 alkaizer runs at MP 8 for plans. Ending it with Azmodan cuz i thought fat ass drops plans. Check check, he doesn't.. aduhhh
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with nv bringing across acts can try izual and raka.. doesn't take too much time assume you had done azmo biggrin.gif
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how on planet tristram u guys lvl up to plvl 100...
me still got 11plvl to go....ahhhh
tired liaw...
even doin mp10 the lvl bar are so slow...
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i think i know liao para para legolas

when cast mark of death, bola shot explosive can amplify the mark of death's word?

am i korek?
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nop ..it will not make the wording grow bigger...lol

if u see the m4d is add additional 12% dmg to mobs
if that guy use m4d rune grim reaper
which is enemy within 20 yard getting additional 12% dmg
then you will see the wording on top of mobs head

and bola shot rune volatile explode to 16yard radius is within 20 yard m4d radius..
so all dmg within 20 yard is amplified and get extra 12% dmg.

bola dmg 160%+12%
and explode to nearby enrmy 110% +12%
12% m4d if use grim reaper or valley of death...

I cannot confirm if party member will get the additional 12% buff or not... unsure.gif

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yup m4d will benefit party also.. cause it's a mobs debuff
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BTW I've been soloin uber @mp10 out of bore-dom
since I think i'm ready to do it...
Do teach me some guidance... wink.gif

I'll be showing 1 run at the time..cause I cannot continue due to laggy connection
and I don have anymore machine sweat.gif

But here are the first one...
Do comment and do teach me some guidance... wink.gif

Part 1
1st boss is Ghom and Rak
Warning:Viewer discrete,this video is made purely for entertainment only
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Hey i saw the video. Very nice..

30 Disc pool and you have no disc problem at all. amazing...

and one more thing, can u tell me the stats of your scoundrel buriza n ammy????
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he not using buriza...he using WF w freeze..soj wit cold .. sweat.gif
no money to buy buriza laugh.gif
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when i play d3, it nvr drop me this =-=
when i dont want to paly, it drop me this =-=


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walao...put red gem and green lah
see dps boost (but no %dmg .....hmmmm)
cd 99% summore
2.3% LS summore....

congrats..
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going hibernate mode soon...
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going hibernate mode soon...
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B4 u go, can organize a PL100 uber session? +recording (for the sake of community) blush.gif

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going hibernate mode soon...
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Try different builds.
WW/HOTA/WT/C4/CM/Bears/Archon/Bells.. etc etc.

The beauty of this game is the combination of skills.
The more I play the more I find D3 development team is a genius.

InB4 D2 LOD is a much better game
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i think try other DH skill
there are alot other untap skill/rune that is good...
not just bola and ball lightning...(vomit blood de use that skill)

try to lead and not follower...be original sweat.gif


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Here are my 2 part of the fight...enjoy
Magda and Skeleton king

I though I was goin to be tough fight but I manage to come out icon_rolleyes.gif
do comment ... sweat.gif
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wow guys thanks for the constructive and motivating replies.. really do feel glad to be part of the lyn community..

yup i agree playing other classes would be awesome, been considering to switch to barb or monk, but at the same time afraid i might get too addicted again and play non stop, need some time to focus back on my career and life smile.gif

ALeUNe i think you are the only person in lyn who played all classes to a certain high level (where all of them can do mp8-10), your experience is valuable to the community rclxms.gif

yuhhaur this is a good suggestion, but i cant record since i'm a noob mac user blush.gif i recommend wKkaY for this task, he can record biggrin.gif

d3 is still part of my life too (at least for the past 6 months).. i will be back soon™ tongue.gif
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lksing78 too pro already.. i never dare to attempt mp10 uber solo..
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Wahhhh...still farr farrrr farrrrrr away to become PRO lah
still alot need to learn...



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Got an offer to buy my acc for RM 4.2k.. really thinking of selling...
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and then roll a new acc on US server? brows.gif
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I can't game anymore because I learn my lesson. Lost the girl I wanted to marry because of this and a few other reasons.

Anyway, i'm selling or my bro can have it.
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nah i'm done.

I can't game anymore because I learn my lesson. Lost the girl I wanted to marry because of this and a few other reasons.
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yuhhaur this is a good suggestion, but i cant record since i'm a noob mac user blush.gif i recommend wKkaY for this task, he can record biggrin.gif
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It's quite boring from my viewpoint though, since I'm stationary like a turret doing ubers sweat.gif
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switch back to windforce now
doin 3 turret and 6 spike trap....nice
using 3 turret can even smoke mp7 elite...i just run here and there...lol

here what i use
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sentry rune spitfire turret (30% rocket/missile)
spike trap rune ecohing blast

passive
engineering
ballistic (add 50% to rocket )

using this now rclxms.gif
snipe it really cheap last time sweat.gif
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what i think about this game is every skill have its advantage over curtain weapon
that is why I still played it...to discover new thing...new combo
So I will be sticking around to play this . doh.gif

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Winger molok, illusinoist, RD on MP10 = i think 8 deaths in a row. i think more actually.
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I found that Act2 elite are more challenging
especially those fire guardian...(4 legged ,skinny that shoot fire thingy)

and have these affix
vortex,illusionist ,sheild....OMG....I have found my nemesis at mp10
the fire dmg are so pain man...
cant even stand under the fire more then 2sec in gloom mode.. vmad.gif

can kawtim act2 mp10 KW ...with no cheapshot..

SOOOOO...those stupid idiot did notice the sentry still reflect dmg
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7923034578#16

and will be fix next week doh.gif

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 24 2013, 11:11 AM)
I found that Act2 elite are more challenging
especially those fire guardian...(4 legged ,skinny that shoot fire thingy)

and have these affix
vortex,illusionist ,sheild....OMG....I have found my nemesis at mp10
the fire dmg are so pain man...
cant even stand under the fire more then 2sec in gloom mode.. vmad.gif

can kawtim act2 mp10 KW ...with no cheapshot..

SOOOOO...those stupid idiot did notice the sentry still reflect dmg
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7923034578#16

and will be fix next week doh.gif
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Yea, the fire guardian really pain in the ass. The fire damage from it really hurt that much! If add in plague will kill me in a sec. I agree with you that MP10 ACT2 is challenging, how about mp10 ACT 4? I havent try yet.
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QUOTE(2890 @ Feb 23 2013, 02:15 AM)
nah i'm done.

I can't game anymore because I learn my lesson. Lost the girl I wanted to marry because of this and a few other reasons.

Anyway, i'm selling or my bro can have it.
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woah. .. hope its not too late to patch things up...

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@2890 Sad to hear that you have to quit man but life goes on. I hope everything's good and you manage to get things working again. All the best and good luck
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Oledi 107 now? Any change? Why the woe pin dps so high???
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Pretty quiet here so let me stir up some thing (got it from the EU). Tell me what you guys think.

Hatred regen on DH sucks.

We are awesome on low MP but when you crank the MP up, things just get harder. We take like 8 seconds to regen a full tank of hatred and lose it within 2 seconds.

This makes us handicapped at higher MP because are not able to dish out constant damage on high MPs.

Sure we have the best DPS sheet on diabloprogress but when it goes to MP10, is just a crawl. Why? because we do not have the resource generating ability of a barb or CM wiz.

Would doubling the hatred generators work? or buff passives like brooding to give you better hatred regen.

For me, I want hatred on crit. Nightstalker - Crit gives you hatred and DISC..

p.s: Don't really play anymore but I like to read stuff like this and think. SO tell me what you think! Oh btw, no WD crying about mana issues or we able to regen hatred by shooting in thin air please.
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Again i still think my hatred is enough for high mp

try using spike traps for hatred spender they works better them cluster arrow that eat too much hatred and do so so dmg ...

lays spike traps and spam main atk and lays another one...
lays and forget and concentrate on ur hp instead on what u target
that's why I farm mp10..i kept me alert ...
fall asleep fast if i farm low mp...lol

we already have advantage on hatred regen by shooting in thin air..
IF blizz give hatred regen in crit is done in NS then that skill will be a must for DH
so i don think Blizz will do that. Instead of hatred why not HP ...5% hp gain from dmg done by crit..
that will give us a chg to ditch gloom ,which i see almost all DH uses it..
Need to survive more not to die more laugh.gif

I know that u feel wanna kill the mobs in 1 shot mp10 ...but it's no way u can do that
ehp come before dps in that realm.

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wkkay play like no need bother with hatr3d one... I think need to nerf instead la...
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I use clusters and spikes on mp10 cz sometimes one is better than the other..

Don't think people will ditch gloom for 5% HP cz gloom gives damage reduction and more life steal.

We r range class so we shoot in thin air n gain hatred. Nothing wrong with that. Hmm..

Anyway, I'm always out of hatred. I think too much moving around if I don't stutter step. So I guess either face tank or stutter step.

Need more hatred for DMg skills !!!!!!
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think bout it ...
let say at wit ur dps now ur bola can do avg 300k - 500k crit per dmg
5% hp gain from crit
that is around 15k-25khp u gain back...not good enough?
how much hp u have 70k? ...few crit u gain back ur life to full man

this will give room for DH do do kitting in high mp
and not tanking like barb/monk

i ditch gloom anytime if they implant that

you ran out of hatred cause u spam too many hatred cause u wan to kill the mobs fast
which i don think it's efficient..

in my case i think how to survive 1st...and slowly counter those mobs around.

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Feb 26 2013, 02:13 PM)
think bout it ...
let say at wit ur dps now ur bola can do avg 300k - 500k crit per dmg
5% hp gain from crit
that is around 15k-25khp u gain back...not good enough?
how much hp u have 70k? ...few crit u gain back ur life to full man

this will give room for DH do do kitting in high mp
and not tanking like barb/monk

i ditch gloom anytime if they implant that

you ran out of hatred cause u spam too many hatred cause u wan to kill the mobs fast
which i don think it's efficient..

in my case i think how to survive 1st...and slowly counter those mobs around.
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5% life steal is like 1% on inferno. there's the inferno nerf man. but yeah, what you say is kinda attractive.

survive 1st then think how to counter mobs.. isn't that less efficient? u taking longer time. and yeah, i wanna kill mobs fast so i just unload everything i got. after all, we r burst dmg class.
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I think hatred regen's fine the way it is. Resource pools are meant to balance and add challenge to the game.

A hatred regen build I came across in the battle.net forums is:

Cluster grenades
Mortal enemy
Chain of torment X 3
Custom Engineering
Grenadier

I posted a video of myself using this a few pages ago: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=58294948

Towards 25s you can see the regen at full momentum.
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why you use cull the weak when you use grenades? no procs even if you use cold SOJ.

and yeah, you don't have hatred problem. maybe cuz u're using grenades?

I'm using

NS, Archery, Grenadies

HA: SoT
CA: LfB
ST: Echo
SP: Gloom
Vault: Tumble
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I'm not happy with the rate clusters goes out la. But then i don't play that much now anyways.. just smth to ponder la

and MoD is useless unless vs boss.

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Hi DH,
need some advice on farming MP5.
Currently i have no prob doing MP3. But when goto MP5, i died a lot.
crit dmg i can see from hungering arrow is ranging between 160k-180k,
rarely see 200k. i think my skillsets are mess. can help to advice on the skillset combination base on my stats?

here is my rough stats:
dps 175k (without steady aim & sharpshooter)
hp 55k
ar 400 (with perfectionist)
armor 3900+
cc 49%
cd 400%+

thanks.. smile.gif
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high mp don't use hungering aarrow lo
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QUOTE(dreaming @ Feb 27 2013, 11:43 AM)
Hi DH,
need some advice on farming MP5.
Currently i have no prob doing MP3. But when goto MP5, i died a lot.
crit dmg i can see from hungering arrow is ranging between 160k-180k,
rarely see 200k. i think my skillsets are mess. can help to advice on the skillset combination base on my stats?

here is my rough stats:
dps 175k (without steady aim & sharpshooter)
hp 55k
ar 400 (with perfectionist)
armor 3900+
cc 49%
cd 400%+

thanks.. smile.gif
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Do some tests @ Ghom MP10 to find out your real damage.

Died a lot at MP5? I reckon you have low EHP
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QUOTE(2890 @ Feb 26 2013, 07:33 PM)
why you use cull the weak when you use grenades? no procs even if you use cold SOJ.
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confirmed?! cold soj does not proc cull the weak??
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QUOTE(dreaming @ Feb 27 2013, 11:43 AM)
Hi DH,
need some advice on farming MP5.
Currently i have no prob doing MP3. But when goto MP5, i died a lot.
crit dmg i can see from hungering arrow is ranging between 160k-180k,
rarely see 200k. i think my skillsets are mess. can help to advice on the skillset combination base on my stats?

here is my rough stats:
dps 175k (without steady aim & sharpshooter)
hp 55k
ar 400 (with perfectionist)
armor 3900+
cc 49%
cd 400%+

thanks.. smile.gif
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your hp/ar/armor is enough for mp5 imo, are you using night stalker passive?

bola gives higher damage as compared to hungering arrow, perhaps you can try that on higher mp. rune such as volatile explosives, imminent doom, thunder ball are good to use. the choice is yours.

gloom is the most op skill atm to survive at higher mp, or try kite a bit by vaulting away if you have difficulties surviving.

sentry(guardian turret) is good skill for surviving as well
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Looks like you should do ok in mp5. Bola shot is definitely a good choice for higher mp. A simple tactic is, stand on your ground, lay spike trap (echoing blast) in front of you and gloom while bola shotting. It never goes wrong. For range ones you have to move a little and know when and where to place traps. Custom engineering, perfectionist and Nightstalker in your case. Should do just fine. Surviving yeah, as dragonslayer mention, you can use guardian turret for 15% damage reduction. Good skill to have while tanking elites. good luck
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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Feb 27 2013, 07:17 PM)
confirmed?! cold soj does not proc cull the weak??
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no it does proc cull of the weak only IF the skill you use is non elemental.

for example, hungering arrows 4 runes are physical only cinder arrow ain't. so SOJ will proc CTW on all runes except Cinder arrow. Same goes to skills like BL, grenades, bola etc...
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QUOTE(dreaming @ Feb 27 2013, 11:43 AM)
Hi DH,
need some advice on farming MP5.
Currently i have no prob doing MP3. But when goto MP5, i died a lot.
crit dmg i can see from hungering arrow is ranging between 160k-180k,
rarely see 200k. i think my skillsets are mess. can help to advice on the skillset combination base on my stats?

here is my rough stats:
dps 175k (without steady aim & sharpshooter)
hp 55k
ar 400 (with perfectionist)
armor 3900+
cc 49%
cd 400%+

thanks.. smile.gif
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I'll stick to HA if i'm you. You can try bola but i guarantee you'll go back to HA after a while.
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guyz ... any idea how to increase my dps furthur ?
i thought of changing my nat ring ... or should i wait until i farm one ... ?
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QUOTE(AngelOfDestruction @ Feb 27 2013, 09:14 PM)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sophien...1/hero/12557910

guyz ... any idea how to increase my dps furthur ?
i thought of changing my nat ring ... or should i wait until i farm one ... ?
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try increasing crit dmg. your current crit dmg on gears has only 174. try increase up to 250 or 300 above and see how it goes.

best way to increase is to have a weapon with socket. socketed but slightly low dps is still ok.

second would be crit chance. your ammy appears to have 0 cc. i would prefer to switch attack speed affix in your ammy to cc. but that's gonna cost abit so hm.. maybe rare rings with cc+as+main stat or cc+as+avg dmg is a better upgrade for you too
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wow sold my old gloves for 255m =D
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Thanks sifu. I change to sentry GT and spike trap and im able to handle higher mp. Did a test on bola shoot, im able to handle ghom up to mp8. But Mp10 need to use grenade. Anyways, my dps still low, need to change higher dmg manticore n ammy.
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And yes, I switch back to hungering arrow in public game because still doesn't like the delay in bola.

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i'm using passive nightstalker, archery & perfectionist.
since i'm using sentry GT & spike trap, does it worth to trade off archery's crit dmg 50% to custom engineering 3 sentry + 6 spike traps?


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QUOTE(dreaming @ Feb 28 2013, 09:31 AM)
And yes, I switch back to hungering arrow in public game because still doesn't like the delay in bola.

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i'm using passive nightstalker, archery & perfectionist.
since i'm using sentry GT & spike trap, does it worth to trade off archery's crit dmg 50% to custom engineering 3 sentry + 6 spike traps?
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I'd say no.
If you want to use engineering, perhaps you can have nightstalker, archery & engineering.

By the way, try calamity.
Many people dropped manticore for calamity recently.
It changes the whole gameplay & survivability, IMO.

P/S Manticore is getting cheaper and cheaper now.
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why calamity? because of its free MoD & hatred regen? or attack speed?
many people jump into calamity meant price rocket high right?
btw, how should i choose a calamity? still looking for crit dmg + socket like other weapon?

yeap, manticore price is damn low. i bid my current equipped manticore with just 500k and nobody place a bid after me, and i got it. this was surprised me. i sold a similar stats manticore 2mths ago with DPS 11XX, vit 100+ , dex 100+, single socket at 15m.

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QUOTE(dreaming @ Feb 28 2013, 11:25 AM)
why calamity? because of its free MoD & hatred regen? or attack speed?
many people jump into calamity meant price rocket high right?
btw, how should i choose a calamity? still looking for crit dmg + socket like other weapon?

yeap, manticore price is damn low. i bid my current equipped manticore with just 500k and nobody place a bid after me, and i got it. this was surprised me. i sold a similar stats manticore 2mths ago with DPS 11XX, vit 100+ , dex 100+, single socket at 15m.
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Yes, all of these, MoD, hatred regen & speed.

Just choose a calamity with socket, and put a marquise ruby.

How do I explain the goodness of calamity?
Remember you said, you can use bola up to MP8 and you have to use grenades for MP10?
I understand what you meant.
With calamity, you can use bola and any skill up to MP10.
You will find the game play suddenly becomes ezpz.
No more slow explosion of bola. Discipline is well managed. Much better survivability etc etc.

The price of calamity is still not as insane as echoing fury with LS.

P/S With archery, you get 10% CC with 1-hand bow

P/S Forgot to mention. With calamity, even though i lose more than 60K EHP (use Andariel's Visage i/o Mempo), I still have much better survivability @ MP10.
So, you can drop some EHP and go for more dps. You have some flexibility to tweak your build.

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thanks for the detail explanation, will try to look for calamity then.
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hi bro aluene,
need help on which calamity to choose:
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my budget only allow me to get either 1 of it.. sweat.gif
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The one on the left is better
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Yep the left. No matter how you look at it, marked for death will always hit no matter if the % is smaller or bigger but stats wise overall definitely the one on the left
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yup vote left also
reason
% dmg (choose higher if u wan to put ruby)
CD (no brainer on that...the higher the better)

m4d if bonus only ...crap one

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i only have radiant star ruby (+130 dmg) to slot in.
if i would like to slot in with ruby, how does it compare with this calamity?
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this calamity price is cheaper by half plus +vit laugh.gif



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^ sucks...
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oops... got it. i try simulate in d3up. it's really sucks, still the above 1 better. smile.gif
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Attached Image

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looks good, must be pricey. I already got mine at a very good budget price and happy with it. Only 1 more piece missing is my mempo with CC. Should be able to get it soon. Been saving up for it. You planning to buy those nats?

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Mar 1 2013, 02:29 AM)
looks good, must be pricey. I already got mine at a very good budget price and happy with it. Only 1 more piece missing is my mempo with CC. Should be able to get it soon. Been saving up for it. You planning to buy those nats?
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I bought it already =)
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I bought it already =)
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nice2x.. eh btw the +(10-22)Dmg is not (min-max) right?
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hi bro aluene,
need help on which calamity to choose:
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Look at the dps, ias, cd and +% damage
The one on the left is better.
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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Mar 1 2013, 09:24 AM)
nice2x.. eh btw the +(10-22)Dmg is not (min-max) right?
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it's a min max.. now. i need to find this look a like ring..hahaha doh.gif sweat.gif
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avg dmg ...
if u wan to find gear with avg dmg
find the min dmg

exp
40max mean 20 avg dmg
25min mean 25 avg
10-20 mean 15avg dmg.
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Gear with:
250dex + 10.0 cc OR 250dex + 100% CD.

Which one better...give more DPS?

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Mar 1 2013, 09:54 AM)
avg dmg ...
if u wan to find gear with avg dmg
find the min dmg

exp
40max mean 20 avg dmg
25min mean 25 avg
10-20 mean 15avg dmg.
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although this is how it works when you search in AH, but the calculation is incorrect in game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...L5InQZvM#t=480s

tl,dw;
40 max = 20 avg dmg
40 min = 20 avg dmg

btw when i watch back the video moldran still looks funny! lol
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QUOTE(AdamNg @ Mar 1 2013, 10:19 AM)
Gear with:
250dex + 10.0 cc OR 250dex + 100% CD.

Which one better...give more DPS?
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it is all depends on your overall gear.. need to find your bottle neck between cc, cd, as, avg dmg, and main stat.

sometimes 10cc is better than 100cd, sometimes 100cd is better than 10cc.

both of them are heavily dependent on each other, it's useless if you have 0cc + 1000cd, or 100cc + 0cd.

however, in general, most of the time, cc is better than cd
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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Mar 1 2013, 10:55 AM)
although this is how it works when you search in AH, but the calculation is incorrect in game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...L5InQZvM#t=480s

tl,dw;
40 max = 20 avg dmg
40 min = 20 avg dmg

btw when i watch back the video moldran still looks funny! lol
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Not base on AH
I base on off hand gear.....

And also
If i compare
40min...with same stat set
40max...with same stat set

I link them on my chat column
40 min give me morr dps...

Maybe i drink cheap wisky that day.

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